ASDs ignored due to the new UK 'Welfare Reform' Bill

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christ reading these responses...This political class is the worst we've had since universal suffrage was introduced. I've been on IB and DLA since i was 16 and i think i've been assessed once in that whole time by an entirely sympathetic and sweet lady who came to my home. Dreading having to go through all this. I think we need a revolution to kick them out!

Sweet??! ! Working for the DSS??? All the ones I ever met acted more like the Spanish Inquisition, and I don't mean the Monty Python version.

Revolution? I'd be up for that. Seems to be a theme for that at the moment. We can see what Cameron thinks when what's happening in Tripoli happens in London.

Give the people what they want, or send in the troops? I wonder.

I think sometimes that is what it would take. Certainly democracy doesn't seem to be working if a govt made of millionaires with no mandate can set about destroying the most vulnerable in society, whilst handing out huge sums to banks & tax breaks / tax avoidance for big business that could pay for all of this several times over.

Sorry, I was hoping you would escape this moron's charter. It's certainly not democratic given that there's only 1 Con MP left in Dumfriesshire. Same goes for Wales (8 out of 40) & most of Northern England (in fact, England outside of the rich areas).

What gets me is that they lie in their manifesto, they make promises, then toss those words away after they're in power and run amok as if with an AK47 in a china shop.
Only broken things are good, broken things are profitable, broken things make people buy more, except when they haven't got any more money, then the poor people can be broken too because a human being is only worthwhile if they make or spend money....

*sigh* I'll stop now.
I just wish they would.

Nier

I agree entirely. I've spoken to several left-of-centre Americans who think they need the same thing there, and that it's coming.

In Scotland it's only a slight variant on the West Lothian Question.* They forget that a bunch of mainly English politicians have been making decisions for Scotland since 1707. If it had all been a couple of hundred years ago it wouldn't be an issue, but it's happening now.

I've been in a position for months now where I seem to have a choice between fighting and quitting - and yes, by quitting, I mean killing myself.

How do you fight when the whole world seems to have it in for you? How do you fight when you can't interact with other humans? How do you fight a government who wants to bully the vulnerable when all the people with money and power are behind them?

I don't see many answer to that question.

For those not familiar with this problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Lothian_question

Yes I can see how Scots would want to escape the rule of Westminster for sure because of this. Take us with you please!
It doesn't help either when we have ministers & prime ministers with Scottish links who perpetuate the problem. At least you have the devolved parliament, which is a start, N England continually gets kicked in the teeth by the power base vested in the South East and can't even vie for independence based on being a diff country.

Don't. I know it can seem pretty bleak, but don't. This shower of t*sspots in power, or ATOS, or whoever else tries to dehumanise you to enable them to tick another box & show their lords and masters haven't they done well today by grinding someone else into the ground aren't worth it.

Again, not that it would be anything but a tragic waste, but if it ever did get that bad, how would the govt react if someone topped themselves on the steps of No 10, in a similar way to that young man whose suicide in protest at the lack of jobs sparked off the Tunisian revolution & started off the whole Middle East domino effect we're seeing now? That poor chap never got to see the effect of his pain, but it is bringing some hope (I hope) to others as a result.




I don't know either, but politics works in odd ways. Lots of people are talking about the London protest on 26th March, may be useless but the poll tax protests did work. As long as the police don't use kettling threats to put people off. It's as though our darling leaders don't actually like us using our right to protest peacefully ... funny that !

I'm dreading being assessed-yes, I can do things but the only people who have ever offered me a job when I did look for one are people who want me to use my bank account to money launder for them, which is illegal and would get my bank account frozen.

I did think about this - long before what's just kicked off in the Middle East. The main problem is that you'd never get past the Thatcher Gates with anything looking like a weapon. Thatcher put them in. nobody else has thought about taking them down.

I also thought about doing something similar in the local DSS office, but that would have less impact than something done in front of a lot of news cameras.

Just dying would be simpler, although it might be one way to make a difference, even if I didn't live to see it. Other people would be better off, and that has to mean something.

I do wonder if aspies, in common with other vulnerable people (I know someone who is registered blind, for example) are more often targetted by the less desirable in society, whether that's the government and their agents or those who are legally criminals/

Please don't kill yourself Niall. Don't let the c**** win! If you do that they wouldn't bat an eyelid. Just one less person to pay out money to. Things can change a lot politically in 10-15 years and you've still got your whole life ahead of you. Yes theres alot of c**** about but the human spirit has two sides and everyone has a better nature.

I actually took some time to read through the changes to DLA in the Welfare Reform Bill. It's being replaced with a whole new system which will be means tested. Instead of looking at a few small areas like mobility, etc, it looks at your quality of life and independence as a whole, and the amount you receive will be adjusted accordingly.

So, if you can't work because of your Asperger's - if it really is that severe - then you should still be able to claim under the new system.

Of course, no one knows how it will work in practice until the system is actually put in place, so let's see what happens.

Last edited by Asp-Z on 02 Mar 2011, 2:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I probebly could work IF a non scammer offered me a job but only the scammers know I exist.