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I knew a Jamaican guy that had a policy of having nothing even related to evil in his house. No scary movies, books, icons, etc. At that time in my youth, I thought it was a little ridiculous, but at this point in life, I understand we are what we feed our mind. Given the wisdom of that Jamaican guy, if I were you, I would stay as far as from these individuals as possible,

Considering the evil you see in them, his advice would probably be never to mention their name, or entertain a thought of them, again in your life. Otherwise you feed your mind with them and they become a driving force in your life, keeping you away from the positive things in life that make life good.

Well of course. Yet it is philosophy leading people into the direction of the tendency of indifference of the pride mentality. There is less hope with pride because it does not embrace compassion because compassion is seen as a weakness to the image of autism toward pride. Pride does not like sympathy and pride does not like weakness. Pride is self-serving and self-centered in this regard. Autism is the identity, the greatness and the species. Autism is the barrier in reality and these folks tend to be the oens in the way of compassion and hope for those less fortunate.

Functioning has to so with ability to function from low to high. You are likely used to the self-diagnosed folks and are basing it on them. Qualified people need to be consulted not internet culture.

I think I understand how you see all this.

I think the statement above reflects your motivation for most everything you say on this site.

There are always extreme opinions, that don't necessarily represent the ideas of the majority. Those are often the ones heard; not the majority opinion for whatever group is represented. I think those are the voices you are hearing in this instance, regarding the general idea of neurodiversity.

For those that find a way to function in life with Autism, there is no reason, for them as individuals to focus on the negative aspects of the condition. Focusing on the positive is what they are doing in support of each other. If this is the world they must live in to survive, perhaps we should live and let live for those that don't share our opinions.

It is part of their coping mechanism to survive in this world. Just as the services you provide are coping mechanisms for others to adapt to the world

Their needs and the needs of those that you support are different needs related to the same general condition. There is no requirement that they support the people you support and there is no requirement that you support them.

The most important part, I think, is whatever support people need they get.

no emtion is this black or white, they are all after all an effect of our evolutionary path.
pride in your work is one of the things that have kept a lkot of people doing what they do for the great of all mankind.

pride can easily support both compassion and sympathy.

now i dont actually think most of the autism "pride" movement feels pride in the way you describe it, i think they feel an accpetance and want people to accept it as they do, the "autism pride" part is simply a means for that, now i dont particularly know but that is what i think.

The folks that stand out like a sore thumb attacking other organization in the name of pride and so on should be spoken against. To me pride in autism does not make sense but pride in ones work does. As I said before it's all tangled up. There are good ways to cope and bad ways. The ways to cope that prevent progress for those in need of help do not supersede the quality of compassion required. Compassion is typically kindred but I am a soldier in the army of compassion per say politically and socially and I got defense mechanisms to cope as well. Pride has big mouths, lots of accusations and propaganda coming out the ears, anus and all the other parts of entry and exit. What I mean to say is folks can cope so as long as their coping don't get in the way of progress for others adaptations and I don't mind it. It has proven to get in the way however so I make some noise as well.

I think you said before the potential of harm exists. But, there is no evidence that efforts like speaking out against other organizations is doing any real harm to anyone on the spectrum. And there is also no evidence that you are doing any harm to those organizations that are speaking out against other organizations; so it is just a fair matter of two sides voicing opinions.

Your choice is to continue speaking out against these organizations and their choice is to continue speaking out against other organizations. Good to vent these emotions of disagreement, but little value there for real change for the good of people with Autism on either side.

But, that is the purpose of this forum, to allow people to discuss their differences of opinions. I visited the forum about a month or so ago; it is like a soap opera; I don't see where the message has significantly changed for either side. Some people naturally like soap operas; seems like just another normal part of the human condition.

Progress is slow when folks have been peer pressured. The most annoying word I've come accorss is pity when folks make no attempt to clearify it between that of compassion. Folks have attacked parents speaking about the hardship that parents experience as a result of autism. People believe autism should be viewed as an identity. I figure to say the most common sense of things against a mountain of opposition picking away at it one by one to balance it is a better service then the ease of hatred which is popular. The hate of how a disability impairs differs from a hate toward someone who happens to have autism. It's almost as if being destructive against progress has been fed into minds as ok because one is the condition and nearly the barriers are the personality even if not chosen.

My job is to understand it fully and to the point that should this stuff manifest in the media further to prepare a full on counter political assault and especially to protect my organization as no hate but that from pride advocates have existed against it. Pride knows about drama thats been it's game to get attention and it got mine personally. I on the other hand seek progress not illusion to incite the ease of misdirected anger. Autism is a condition and those seeking to improve the condition that have emotion of hardship are not bigots. No sane person will believe the madness of anti-cure's pride.

I guess we can only wait to see if the people you are concerned about overstep your bounds. The next plan of action seems to depend on it.

They don't stand a chance and will be put in their place when the time comes.

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i dont think my definations are any different than yours,you just always misunderstand me.my experience with autism goes back much further than this site and i am familiar with formal diagnosis.i read every book on autism at the university of massachsetts library which by the way is the worlds tallest library at 28 stories.where you get your conclusions i will never know.you ve mastered compassion now try facts

i dont think my definations are any different than yours,you just always misunderstand me.my experience with autism goes back much further than this site and i am familiar with formal diagnosis.i read every book on autism at the university of massachsetts library which by the way is the worlds tallest library at 28 stories.where you get your conclusions i will never know.you ve mastered compassion now try facts

Emotions do not have 1+1 = 2 facts. If the idea is to use the pride to shift meanings all the time then pride is evasive of truth and does not have absolute fact. So let's banter about this pride. More people are interested in the image of autism for self-image reasons then that of quality of life in inclusion it seems. So to me pride seems to focus allot on the image of autism and not the pride of ones work. Pride wants to play politics but cannot be solid in fact long enough to allow a response.

My understanding is autism pride is a waste of time in many other progress potentials, at times is a special interest cover or can be used as one and seems to dislike people caring about hardships. If I said I have autism pride in the potential cure of adverse symptoms would that be opposite of pride. Let's begin there.

i understand and agreed with you ice ages ago that wanton pride gets out of hand.even if you dont like me how can you not know me by now.all im saying is that your belief that everyone is so intoxicated with pride,self rightiousness and bigotry is paranoid and not saported by the facts.also egoistic bigotry is a problem through out the autism spectrum and disability movement in general and focusing your attention on the aspie,hfa crowd is a mistake