Vaccines and autism

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There are quite a few shady greedy bastards giving the name 'holistic' a really bad name that is undeserved.

Don't shoot all 'holistic' practioners on site. Any bearing chelation therapies and miracles cures for a price - fire away.

I think anti-vaccine people should be forced to see what these once rare diseases bring. Come to the pediatrics ICU and watch as a 2 year old dies from pertussis because their hippie "new age parent" skipped the DTaP vaccine. Or come watch a 8 year old die of a simple infection because they have aplastic anemia (total bone marrow failure) caused by measles. Watch as boys who haven't even hit puberty become infertile from mumps!

I was autistic from birth.

I've lost trust in most traditional doctors because it's as if they want to blame everything on my autism. I've had a problem with my joints my entire life where if something brushes up against them if they are unbent I feel as if I will faint. All the doctors told my mom it was just "because of the autism" and would suggest things that made it worse such as joint compression and this stupid brushing thing. The only doctors who have taken it seriously are chiropracters and holistic doctors.

It was some journalist in the UK, who published a story, and it pretty much went viral and doctors and advocates adopted it as fact. He later `recanted` and admitted it wasn`t scientifically sound.
Damage had been done though,.

Thank you Dr. A-hole, now we have TB and measles reaccuring in our population.

Interesting... Even though there's no scientific evidence, it is something that we should be cautious and continue studying.

measles and polio are on the rise in both the us and europe and the vaccine scare is being blamed for this.i personaly dont see any difference between promising that avoiding something will asure that you avoid a sickness is any different than promising a cure.this vaccing theory is leatrile pure and simple

anything that can lead to any damage on the brain can create a contribution to an effect of autism. my views is that with so many people increasingly coming to have psychiatric problem, autism etc.... that it's probably not one thing that's causing all this. although, one thing may be the last straw for certain people, that last straw may not be the same in everyone.


I've read that it's not only the chemicals in the vaccines that are the problem, but that when the immune system activates to target a pathogen one of the things it does is release toxins in the brain to destroy that pathogen. this can damage the brain and is why that people that were very sick as kids are more likely to end up with autism. if this immune system activity is created by vaccines as well, then it would explain a lot of things as we have been having increasing rates of autism, and numerous other problems too, along with increasing rates of vaccination.

i would think the problem is more systemic than that though. i think it has to do with pollution, poorer quality food that nowadays has less nutritive value, some medicine such as vaccines, TV, and over-diagnosis in some cases, and just about everything else that has occurred over the past 100 or so years that had never occurred before in the history of man.


and here's something that's fun to read if you're thinking the science behind the safety of these vaccines is legit. it's just one case. i wonder if there are others.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/ ... JJ20110413


Reuters) - A scientist in Denmark has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta for allegedly stealing $1 million in grant money that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had earmarked for autism research.

U.S. prosecutors on Wednesday said they are seeking to extradite Poul Thorsen, 49, accused of wire fraud and money laundering.

He used the stolen money to buy a home in Atlanta, a Harley Davidson motorcycle and two cars, prosecutors said.