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What makes one a Christian?
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ, irrespective of actions. 27%  27%  [ 10 ]
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ, irrespective of baptism. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ, irrespective of actions or baptism. 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ and who acts in accord with that faith, irrespective of baptism.. 30%  30%  [ 11 ]
A Christian is one who has been "baptized into Christ," irrespective of current belief or action. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
A Christian is still a sinner. 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
A Christian does not sin. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 37

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09 Nov 2017, 12:08 am

How many years old is this thread?


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10 Nov 2017, 3:14 am

Old members here seemed to have a lack of history knowledge on early Christianity.

In early "Christianity" there was no clear definition of what's Christianity: the definition of Jesus was a debatable among early believers, some groups of Jews viewed him as a son of man and as a human prophet - not as God ( Nontrianitism, ie. ebionites, Messianic Jews...etc), and some others viewed him as Son of God and as one with God (true trinity), and some had other views in between such as Arianism. And of course there were Jews who refused Jesus altogether and remained Jews. We can say that Jewish Christianity was evolving into different branches of "Christianity".

You should understand that Judaism is a strictly monotheist religion, like Islam, hence why many Jews back in the time couldn't digest the idea, whether fully or partially, of Jesus' divinity, leading to many different views as stated above.

Because of the birth of many different Christian views on the nature of Jesus and his relationship with God - the definition of what's Christian became more confusing and blurred, this led to the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325., which was the first large summit of major churches, which was attended by the heads of which considered today the major Christian churches: Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox; and together they issued the Nicene Creed and the 20 Canons of Christianity which defines what makes one a real Christian. Therefore declaring all other sects that don't fit the definition in this decree as heretics; many of these sects were in the Middle East and Arabia.

Islam is a religion that evolved from the other branch of Nontrianitist 'Christianity' with some Arabian pagan elements.



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13 Nov 2017, 6:48 pm

I've actually heard Christians say Christians from other denominations or Christians who disagreed with them are about certain issues are Satanists and antichristians. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who thinks they're a Christian, is a Christian.


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13 Nov 2017, 6:52 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
I've actually heard Christians say Christians from other denominations or Christians who disagreed with them are about certain issues are Satanists and antichristians. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who thinks they're a Christian, is a Christian.


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13 Nov 2017, 7:17 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Islam is a religion that evolved from the other branch of Nontrianitist 'Christianity' with some Arabian pagan elements.

Really? I thought it evolved from Judaism. Isn't that way the 2nd Surah gives instructions on how to win an argument against all the Jews who didn't convert?


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13 Nov 2017, 8:27 pm

Asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins and accepting Him as Lord.



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13 Nov 2017, 8:38 pm

A Christian is a person who believes Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, is divine in some way. Most believe he is the Son of God.



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13 Nov 2017, 9:27 pm

Christians who talk about how righteous they are should read Romans 3:10 and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Also Matthew 6:5 and all of Matthew 23.


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14 Nov 2017, 8:41 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Islam is a religion that evolved from the other branch of Nontrianitist 'Christianity' with some Arabian pagan elements.

Really? I thought it evolved from Judaism. Isn't that way the 2nd Surah gives instructions on how to win an argument against all the Jews who didn't convert?


The Nontrianitist branch of Christianity (which was declared as "Heretic" by the First Council Nicaea) had retained the old "Jewish" ways.

One major difference between the Nicaea-recognized Christianity (Catholics, Orthodox) and and the old Nontrinitarianist Christianity is their view regarding the old "Jewish ways" - which btw is commonly called in Arabic Al-Sharia el Yahoudiya (the Jewish Sharia). There was no Protestant movement back then, but most Protestant churches today are Trinitarian by definition.

"True" Christians (Nicaea-recognized Christians) have long rejected the old Jewish ways based on certain interpretations of Jesus teachings: a striking example is the story of Jesus saving the life of Mary Magdalene from stoning. This was a "liberation" movement against the old ways. Catholic and Orthodox Christians (which are originally the same) today are Gospel-followers only (new testament) , while Old Testament (Torah) is secondary.
Protestantism is more at the center (it "brought back" some Old Testament ways into their life) . That's why Christians today can eat pork and carnivore animals (have no eating restrictions at all), drink alcohol, ...etc, because they have ditched the Jewish laws long ago.

On the other hand, the old Nontrinitarianist Christian sects in the Middle East (ie. Ebionites and Messianic Jewish) have retained the old Jewish ways; they remained applying the teachings of the Old Testament (Torah) over eons; they remained very Judiasm-like religions; and Islam evolved from those, from the Ebionites sect in particular.

Hence why the striking similarity between Islam and Judaism, they are the most two lookalike religions in the world today in the ways of living and practices. Islam isn't something "New" - it's something based on a very old doctrine that evolved in parallel with the other branch of Christianity (Trinitarian).