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What makes one a Christian?
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ, irrespective of actions. 27%  27%  [ 10 ]
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ, irrespective of baptism. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ, irrespective of actions or baptism. 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ and who acts in accord with that faith, irrespective of baptism.. 30%  30%  [ 11 ]
A Christian is one who has been "baptized into Christ," irrespective of current belief or action. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
A Christian is still a sinner. 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
A Christian does not sin. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 37

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20 Jun 2011, 3:24 am

You lack these options in the poll:
A Christian is one who professes hate for homosexuals.
A Christian is one who professes hate for women.
A Christian is one who professes hate and the killing of abortion practitioners.
A Christian is one who professes hate for condoms.
A Christian is an american patriot who professes hate for illegal (and legal) immigrants that are not caucasians.
A Christian is one who professes Fox News as the most trusted news organization.



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20 Jun 2011, 4:48 am

blunnet wrote:
You lack these options in the poll:
A Christian is one who professes hate for homosexuals.
A Christian is one who professes hate for women.
A Christian is one who professes hate and the killing of abortion practitioners.
A Christian is one who professes hate for condoms.
A Christian is an american patriot who professes hate for illegal (and legal) immigrants that are not caucasians.
A Christian is one who professes Fox News as the most trusted news organization.


We hate Swiss cheese too.
And Saturday morning cartoons,
And small puppies.
And our 8th grade math teachers.
And chocolate. Oh, how we hate chocolate.


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20 Jun 2011, 7:12 am

Who's a Christian and who's not? Depends on one's criteria and definition of the word "Christian".

But if we want to go by what the Epistles say (but with some contradictions), then a Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ as the One who saves and not his own works. And, thus, he becomes born again or something. It just gets complicated that it's not worth trying to figure out what a true Christian really is.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:25 am

MCalavera wrote:
Who's a Christian and who's not? Depends on one's criteria and definition of the word "Christian".

But if we want to go by what the Epistles say (but with some contradictions), then a Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ as the One who saves and not his own works. And, thus, he becomes born again or something. It just gets complicated that it's not worth trying to figure out what a true Christian really is.


Not the Christian formulation I would go for [especially the "not worth trying"], but unusually close to correct.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:34 am

blunnet wrote:
You lack these options in the poll:
A Christian is one who professes hate for homosexuals.
A Christian is one who professes hate for women.
A Christian is one who professes hate and the killing of abortion practitioners.
A Christian is one who professes hate for condoms.
A Christian is an american patriot who professes hate for illegal (and legal) immigrants that are not caucasians.
A Christian is one who professes Fox News as the most trusted news organization.


People like Inuyasha have hijacked the definition of "Christian", and left a bad taste in all our mouths.



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20 Jun 2011, 12:31 pm

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A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ and who acts in accord with that faith, irrespective of baptism..


What does it mean by acting according to Christian faith? That is nothing but arbitrary criterion by some 'Christians' to reject 'bad' people.



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20 Jun 2011, 3:37 pm

01001011 wrote:
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A Christian is one who professes faith in Christ and who acts in accord with that faith, irrespective of baptism..


What does it mean by acting according to Christian faith? That is nothing but arbitrary criterion by some 'Christians' to reject 'bad' people.


It may seem that way from outside. Inside we are warned to avoid so far as in us lies fihurig out who ids the bad people.

But look you - since at the least you uphold the value of the logical examination of evidence - the record clearly shows that the declaration one is Christian or membership in a Christian-associated organization does not mean one is not a "bad person"

[By the way, how does one using objective materialist criteria determine what is a "bad person"? Sounds like a value judgement to me]

Does the record also show that a greater percentage of those who self identify as Christian or are members of a Christian-associated organization are "bad people", compared to the proportion of "bad people" in other groups?



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20 Jun 2011, 3:47 pm

An ironic description:
A Christion is one who is promised heaven as a reward if they can act like a decent human being. And who still is likely to fail.



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20 Jun 2011, 3:55 pm

We're all Christians, in a way.


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20 Jun 2011, 4:45 pm

dionysian wrote:
We're all Christians, in a way.


The hell we are.

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20 Jun 2011, 5:06 pm

A Christian is one who is in God's grace, for Christ's sake, and not through any action on our part. But those who are in grace will reciprocate God's love by loving their neighbor.
Just my opinion.

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20 Jun 2011, 6:56 pm

Distinguish - if you dare:

the righteous

the saved

the Christians

the Church

the churches



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20 Jun 2011, 7:00 pm

the righteous: people like me.

the saved : people who have figured out that going to church and believing something silly doesn't do anything for you.

the Christians : people who go to church.

the Church : your denomination.

the churches: other people's denominations.



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20 Jun 2011, 7:42 pm

Hey!

You need to put one more category:

A Christian is one who professes faith in christ, tries their best to show it in their action and is baptized.



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20 Jun 2011, 9:08 pm

pandabear wrote:
the righteous: people like me.

the saved : people who have figured out that going to church and believing something silly doesn't do anything for you.

the Christians : people who go to church.

the Church : your denomination.

the churches: other people's denominations.


I keep scanning. Just can't rule out the possibility of a trace of sincerity in there. It is a strength, not a weakness.



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20 Jun 2011, 9:52 pm

Christanity is mythology. But the myths have different purposes for different parties involved
to the church it provides power over minds and shapes society to their liking
to the polititians it provides votes, thus power over political structure
to the preachers it provides a purose in life or control over other's lives which ever road they take
to the believers it provides moral structure, guidance, ticket to imortatality, and an explanation for the mysteries of life
to the extreemists it provides a justification for their cause
to the non-believers it provides a sense of superiority over partakers of the myth


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