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24 Jun 2011, 12:12 pm

"You folks will be put in your places soon enough. That I can guarantee"

I take it "us folks" are us Jews Massa.

Who do you think you are?



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24 Jun 2011, 12:16 pm

I am Jesus Chris super star. Opponents to potential prenatal testing commonly say they are akin to Jewish people. Some show up at protests dressed as Jewish folks. I see no concentration camps other then having to goto school and concentrate.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE7pgUvirgM[/youtube]


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24 Jun 2011, 12:18 pm

Whatever.



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24 Jun 2011, 12:21 pm

I knew a gay man that once said Whatever, with a twist, rainbow style and then gestures with his hand accordingly.


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24 Jun 2011, 12:23 pm

ci wrote:
I am Jesus Chris super star. Opponents to potential prenatal testing commonly say they are akin to Jewish people. Some show up at protests dressed as Jewish folks. I see no concentration camps other then having to goto school and concentrate.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE7pgUvirgM[/youtube]


Eugenics eh?........................................

"I see no concentration camps other then having to goto school and concentrate."

Ok.............

"Some show up at protests dressed as Jewish folks"

OK.................................

You are losing credibility by the minute



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24 Jun 2011, 12:27 pm

Change the law. I'm not the one using abortion to get my way. No not loosing credibility here. In the imagination of the radicals. Personally I don't think a test will even be developed. However the politics of forcing a women to have a pregnancy she does not want may be compared to rape. This is ASAN's politics most people with autism are not even aware of these issues or should be involved because a very high functioning individual uses it to get attention and force views.

The issue combined with other issues is a political risk to progress. ASAN combined issues and risks progress with their methods. I feel to only right to point out that ASAN does not represent the vast majority of people with autism for the sake of progress.


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24 Jun 2011, 12:36 pm

ci wrote:
Change the law. I'm not the one using abortion to get my way. No not loosing credibility here. In the imagination of the radicals. Personally I don't think a test will even be developed. However the politics of forcing a women to have a pregnancy she does not want may be compared to rape. This is ASAN's politics most people with autism are not even aware of these issues or should be involved because a very high functioning individual uses it to get attention and force views.

The issue combined with other issues is a political risk to progress. ASAN combined issues and risks progress with their methods. I feel to only right to point out that ASAN does not represent the vast majority of people with autism for the sake of progress.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftOY8wOtq7I[/youtube]



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24 Jun 2011, 12:55 pm

Why does EVERYTHING end up with Nazi's around here?! whywhywhy...

ci, have you ever addressed your issues with Ari? email? something? Your issues with ASAN seem to center around Ari and his personal philosophy. Why not just try and discuss these issues with him and get his REAL feelings on the matter rather than trying to decipher his feelings from sound bites. I have a feeling he may be very interested in your project and that it may be an initiative that ASAN would support.



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24 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm

I cannot associate with ASAN and others accused me of being an ASAN before I even knew what it was. I thought they were saying as an autism self-advocate in advocacy so I said I was one. We have heard how he thinks of issues and I don't agree all the time but the voices that oppose are left unheard in the media.. I don't believe in divisive tactics so much and that seems like the premise of ASAN. I could never feel right by supporting calling others bigots and so on who are otherwise compassionate. There is far to much anger and it is destructive and counter-productive.

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24 Jun 2011, 5:06 pm

And that is why I asked if you have addressed your oppositions directly to Ari...



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24 Jun 2011, 5:13 pm

I am addressing my concerns somewhat like but not near as bad as they do. No I will not speak to Ari. I am highly offended with his and the groups methods and am insulted that him and his group went up against isolation advocacy. For once people address that reality and ASAN goes up against it. To me the group is harming myself and others. I am sure it will be made out to simply a misunderstanding.

I emailed ASAN one time. I was making sure they would not be calling people Nazi's directly. They just have their supporters do that and dress up as Jewish people in protests. I would find more respect for Ari if he gave a speech about not calling others Nazi's, bigots and so on.

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24 Jun 2011, 9:29 pm

Ci

You are a unique individual.



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24 Jun 2011, 9:41 pm

I hope not to unique otherwise I will go back to thinking everyone else is crazy and trying to figure them out that way.


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24 Jun 2011, 10:23 pm

too unique

I hope they broke the mould when they made you :D



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24 Jun 2011, 10:24 pm

Gallowglass wrote:
too unique

I hope they broke the mould when they made you :D


Laugh Snort!

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