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28 Sep 2006, 3:48 pm

KBABZ wrote:

Aborting AS babies! How are you going to tell?

"How is he doctor?"
"Well, he just intently observed the interior of you're uterus. There's no doubt in the world he's got AS. We're going to have to abort."
"Thank goodness! That'll make life so much easier! Thank you!"

The things people come up with these days... However, I like the idea of the island as more of a place where we can gather and hang out and help eachother and stuff. Kinda like that corner in the room or that tree next to the park bench. You'd go there with little fear of invaders and just hang out and be yourself. Parents and stuff would be able to visit and say 'Hi' (so long as they didn't do anything bad to you), as should all other NT's that we felt were important in out lives. I'd so invite Jeremy, Luke, Leo and Alex over for a bon-fire night!

Hmm... maybe in the future when we've got Space Travel we should all save up our money buy the moon!

They'd tell using fMRI techniques. Problem is, they wouldn't be able to place the foetus somewhere specfic on the spectrum, just tell that the child is on the spectrum somewhere

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28 Sep 2006, 4:17 pm

Aspergia, Autistica and Bipolaria will fight the from Neurotypica and Pschycologila upon them forced war with all in their power standing means, to a victorious end.

Aspergia, Autistica and Bipolaria obliges themselves, without a totally mutual agreement, neither to get armistice nor peace, neither with Neurotypica, nor with Pscycologila.

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28 Sep 2006, 5:22 pm

Is that the mission statement? Not nearly complicated or detailed enough for an Aspergian community! :lol:

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28 Sep 2006, 6:45 pm

Yeah I have thought about what it would be like to live in like a neighborhood with other aspies I think that is a more attainable goal for us. But I'm having a helluva time getting my own life organized never mind finding other aspies to meet/live with, so never mind....

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29 Sep 2006, 8:05 pm

sigholdaccountlost wrote:

KBABZ wrote:

They'd tell using fMRI techniques. Problem is, they wouldn't be able to place the foetus somewhere specfic on the spectrum, just tell that the child is on the spectrum somewhere

I think they're focusing more on genetics and karyotyping methods done via an amniocentesis. Although the main problem with this (and the good news for future ASD generations) is that the vast majority of ASDs are genetically very complicated and so they haven't been able to identify what exactly triggers the ASD cocktail genetically.

However, there are ASDs that are comorbid with such things as Fragile X, PKU, etc., which are identifiable via karyotyping after an amnio, but the difference being is that most mothers won't know to look for Fragile X or PKU as they're fairly rare disorders in themselves and most wouldn't think to check.

Down's on the other hand is often checked standardly once a woman reaches a certain age and becomes pregnant. This is the main reason most Down's babies are aborted.

There is always the possibility that a prenatal test could be developed to try and pinpoint an ASD. Thankfully at this time, no such test exists, and what with the complicated genetics involved and that often no two ASD genetics are exactly alike, means a prenatal test isn't terribly likely or at least a fair ways off.

A cure is likely even further off.

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't worry for the abortion of future generations. But how to combat that? Not sure. Probably politically would be the best way. Unfortunately, that brings up the whole "pro-life V. pro-choice" debate as well and may associate us with folks we wouldn't normally want to be associated with.

As well as just generally changing the impression of ASDs out there in the general public. And getting doctors also to not scare the s**t out of new parents and pressing them to abort like they often do with Down's.

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29 Sep 2006, 8:32 pm

hey look! a fundamentalist asperger!

i wonder though what this would look like, an asperger island. must have advanced technology, at make mathemetical breakthrough by combined effort af aspiegeeks.

they import a lot a antipsychotics (risperdal and such) and what else do they use, in exchange for advanced computer parts or something.

but really practical jobs might make an issue. i guess they would get a lot a free time and a lot a wages or else noone would do them i think.
and enemies might make asp specific weapons. i dont know, anying frequentie sounds or something.

*goes off to write a sci fi*

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29 Sep 2006, 9:01 pm

Eh just counterattack with the sounds that annoy NTs

I know I for one am never bothered by the things they find nerve-wracking like nails on a chalkboard and such its just clanging metal and repetitive high pitched electronic sounds (car alarms and police sirens drive me nuts).

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30 Sep 2006, 5:15 am

en_una_isla wrote:

Is that the mission statement? Not nearly complicated or detailed enough for an Aspergian community! :lol:

It was actually a travesty on Hitler declaring war on the US...

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30 Sep 2006, 5:57 am

OMGZORZ snake321 has lost it. Giving up is not a positive attitude young man!

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30 Sep 2006, 10:13 am

ooh_choc wrote:

bizarre wrote:

They start screwing with your head as soon as you start school.

I don't think what happens in school represents the rest of life at all. From ages 13-17 everyone is a depressive and semi-sadistic s**t. It's got nothing to do with NT's v.s. Aspies, it's just people being mean to people in general. Aspies are just convenient targerts.

Four years after that starts, people grow up, the world moves on, and people are nice again. If they're not, it's either (A) because you're doing something nasty yourself, or (B) because you just aren't around the right people. Either way, there's no point whinging about the rest of the human race, when it's in your power to improve your life yourself.

Well said, ooh_choc.

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30 Sep 2006, 5:49 pm

If were going to establish our own nation we can't plan for it on the Internet. Were going to need a convetion(s) and an organization to plan for this with a elected leaders and some kind of constitution. Then we should meet with the U.N. and ask them for our request.

I personally think we should forget about the island it would be (almost) impossible to create an artificial island to support 20 million people. I think we should go for a right planet...

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30 Sep 2006, 6:40 pm

snake321 wrote:

I'm going on-line and trying to find self help strategies because I don't trust clinics. But I'll do that tommarrow I need to get to bed. I have work tommarrow morning.

Try meditation.. all the "information" you can read about just comes naturally from it..

It helped me and anxiety (thumbs up)

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30 Sep 2006, 7:02 pm

scott wrote:

I personally think we should forget about the island it would be (almost) impossible to create an artificial island to support 20 million people. I think we should go for a right planet...

Hence my idea for us all to save up and buy the Moon.

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