Burden of Proof for God's existence

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That's not what I asked. How about you? Do you only believe that only what exists is that which can be empirically tested? I don't think you do.

I accept as hypothetically valid any quantifiable principle that leads to testable predictions. I am of the Karl Popper clan.

Yes. I believe there is an Out There out there that is not a product of my mind or will. It just IS.

ruveyn

You ACCEPT it. But you have given no indication that this conclusion is something at which you arrived empirically.

OK I mean 'if there is time fails in SOME part of the universe S then S is timeless.'
And what do you mean by 'possible'? Our universe is the only universe that is known to actually exist.


You defend the claim first, we talking about physical time not 'metaphysical' time.


You admit the Hartle-Hawking model says time fails in some part of the universe. So Hartle and Hawking is No one.


In some 'metaphysical time'? You may well say the Earth is metaphysically 6000 years old and therefore god exists. :lol

Only those that can be tested can be meaningfully said to exist or not.

Is that a meaningful truth that can be tested?

Yes. By pointing out the untestable things that proved to be nonsense.

ruveyn

Still waiting for 91 to defend his assertions.

It all comes down to unicorns.

I believe everyone here knows there is no such thing as an unicorn. But can you prove they do not exist?

If you cannot prove their nonexistence, how are you so sure they do not exist? Is your disbelief based on faith?

No, we simply know unicorns are fantastical creatures made-up by ancient men, just like the modern man made up Superman, Harry Potter and the Fairly Oddparents. The real question is: why do people insist on putting gods above other equally fictitious beings? And why not every god? Why does a god's "status" as a real fictitious being dies as soon as the civilization that worshipped it disappears (examples: nordic and greek mythologies)?

heretic! The Invisible Pink Unicorn Godess (may her hooves never be tarnished) is real!

Replace unembodied Mind (God) with a similar entity without a mind and you basically have a better explanation for the existence of the universe than God.

What I find interesting is that philosophical arguments are the only evidence Christians can rely on to attempt to demonstrate their God exists, and that's not keeping mind that that God, if he were to exist, would just be the God of deism, not of Christianity.

They'd still need to demonstrate that Yahweh himself is that God, which they can't do with just philosophical arguments. So it gets down to blind faith.