VMSmith wrote:
NoPast wrote:
the are 2 types of socialism
1)State socialism(state ownership of the means of productions,strong central planning)
2)Libertarian socialism/Anarchism (workers ownership of the means of productions,democracy extended to workplace,a system that empathizes collaboration over competition instead of the actual rat race )
the former(1)has always been source of brutal dictatorships,the latter(2) would drastically increase the living standard for the vast majority of world population but requires a cultural and psychological revolution and the collapse of capitalism and I can't see how this can happen in the near future
the 1st isnt socialism. it sounds more like stalinism but i wouldnt call it real socialism. it is the opposite of socialism. what marx said- "If this is Marxism, then I'm not a Marxist". they were state capitalist dictatorships.
indeed it is stalinism, and is the product of the notion of "socialism in one country".
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