The smoothie question

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Yes, that was the only intention he had that can be construed before he is informed of the increase in price.

But can you tell me how it is possible for him to buy the smoothie after he is informed of the increase in price if he doesn't intend to pay the extra dollar?

I PASSED! I HAVE AS!

Frankly, I don't see how anyone would see the answers differently. If you want A and as a consequence of wanting A, B must happen, then you did not intentionally seek out B.

That analogy is applicable to the first question. For the second question, as a consequence of wanting A you must do B, and if you do not intend to do B then you cannot have A.

But he didn't intend to do B, he HAD to do B. People can do things without intending to do them. There are many things I have had to do in life that I didn't intend to do but had to, regardless of what my intentions were.

He doesn't have to do B, he can choose to not to do B and not have A. For him to have A he must intend to do B.

Put it this way: How can he have A if he does not intend to do B?

He can't. He can instead choose to do C or D if he doesn't want to do B, C being order a smaller size or something else, D being stay thirsty.

He can't unless he wants to go somewhere else or get a different drink.

The truest statement is that "If he does not do B he cannot have A in that instance". He never fully intended to pay an extra dollar, he merely decided to pay an extra dollar and get the drink he wanted on hearing about the price change.

Intention is something you decide to do before the fact.

He intended to get a large drink.
Jane intended to go hiking next Thursday

(for example)

He did not walk into that shop intending to pay an extra dollar. But he did DECIDE to pay the dollar on hearing about the price increase. In that way his action was intentional but may not have originally been intended.

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Unless of course he does B by accident, in which case he did not intend to do B. Though that would imply he paid the extra dollar by accident, which is kind of silly.

Yes, but now we're back to considering whether the question asks for his intentions before hearing of the price change or after.

The question is ambiguous and can't be answered

I think his actions were intentional in both cases. He was informed beforehand of the nature of the cup and the price. In both cases he chose to make his purchase despite the fancy cup and the increased price.

If I was thirsty, and I went to buy a drink to be told that it would be in a cup emblazoned with the BNP logo, for example, I would chose to stay thirsty and go elsewhere for a drink.

In both examples it is assumed that the person making the purchases has no objection to the design of/information on the cup and that he has and is prepared to spend more mo ey than he might have expected.

lol Somewhat true.

Best thing is to ask Joe what he intended to do lol

Yes, of course he did. He didn't give a flying f**k about said cup, but he still intentionally obtained it because he knew he'd get one with the drink he ordered.



Again, yes. He was told the price was a dollar more and he paid it.

Honestly, how the hell does that test Asperger's at all? It's just basic common sense

But he didn't intend to get the cup at all, he didn't care about the cup. He intended to get the large drink which happened by chance to come with a fancy cup. If he had intended to get a smaller drink and then changed his decision so that he could get the fancy cup with the large drink then that would have been intentional, although it would not have been what he originally intended.

Anybody know Joe personally so we can ask him?

He didn't care about the cup, but he still intended to obtain it because he knew about the cup when he ordered the drink.