27 Jan 2013, 5:35 am
I was dx with HFA years ago, but I was "right on the edge" of the diagnosis.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years. 
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
27 Jan 2013, 9:48 am
27 Jan 2013, 9:52 am
Raziel wrote:
I was dx with HFA years ago, but I was "right on the edge" of the diagnosis.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
This is simply incorrect. The spectrum does not work like that. around half of people diagnosed with PDDNOS full fill all of the requirements for ASD, but they have MORE symptoms so they are diagnosed with PDDNOS.
27 Jan 2013, 10:03 am
27 Jan 2013, 10:30 am
27 Jan 2013, 10:45 am
27 Jan 2013, 10:51 am
DVCal wrote:
Raziel wrote:
I was dx with HFA years ago, but I was "right on the edge" of the diagnosis.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
This is simply incorrect. The spectrum does not work like that. around half of people diagnosed with PDDNOS full fill all of the requirements for ASD, but they have MORE symptoms so they are diagnosed with PDDNOS.
I just can think of McDD were this is the case and also often dx as PDD-NOS
Also when the development of autism is "atypical", but then you don't meet the dx criteria for the onset.
Other than that it means that you don't fullfill enough diagnostic criteria. If I'm wrong again, please give me a link to a website.
27 Jan 2013, 11:12 am
Raziel wrote:
DVCal wrote:
Raziel wrote:
I was dx with HFA years ago, but I was "right on the edge" of the diagnosis.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
This is simply incorrect. The spectrum does not work like that. around half of people diagnosed with PDDNOS full fill all of the requirements for ASD, but they have MORE symptoms so they are diagnosed with PDDNOS.
I just can think of McDD were this is the case and also often dx as PDD-NOS
Also when the development of autism is "atypical", but then you don't meet the dx criteria for the onset.
Other than that it means that you don't fullfill enough diagnostic criteria. If I'm wrong again, please give me a link to a website.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=p ... d_RVDocSum
The first group 24% meets all of the requirements for Asperger,but they are too cognitively impaired to be diagnosed with Aspergers.
The second group 24% is a mixed bag, they have all symptoms of Autism,but their onset is either too late, they are too young for a proper diagnosis, or they are impaired cognitively beyond what even classical autism allows.
The third group 52% include people who meet all of the requirements for classical autism, which includes speech delay, and cognitive impairment, but lack repetitive behaviors.
27 Jan 2013, 11:14 am
27 Jan 2013, 11:18 am
DVCal wrote:
Raziel wrote:
DVCal wrote:
Raziel wrote:
I was dx with HFA years ago, but I was "right on the edge" of the diagnosis.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
This is simply incorrect. The spectrum does not work like that. around half of people diagnosed with PDDNOS full fill all of the requirements for ASD, but they have MORE symptoms so they are diagnosed with PDDNOS.
I just can think of McDD were this is the case and also often dx as PDD-NOS
Also when the development of autism is "atypical", but then you don't meet the dx criteria for the onset.
Other than that it means that you don't fullfill enough diagnostic criteria. If I'm wrong again, please give me a link to a website.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=p ... d_RVDocSum
The first group 24% meets all of the requirements for Asperger,but they are too cognitively impaired to be diagnosed with Aspergers.
The second group 24% is a mixed bag, they have all symptoms of Autism,but their onset is either too late, they are too young for a proper diagnosis, or they are impaired cognitively beyond what even classical autism allows.
The third group 52% include people who meet all of the requirements for classical autism, which includes speech delay, and cognitive impairment, but lack repetitive behaviors.
"In terms of level of functioning measures, the PDD-NOS children had scores that were between those of the children with autism and those of the children with AS. In contrast, the PDD-NOS group had fewer autistic symptoms, especially repetitive stereotyped behaviors, than both the autism and AS groups (chi2 = 11.06, p =.004). Children with PDD-NOS could be placed into one of three subgroups: a high-functioning group (24%) who resembled AS but had transient language delay or mild cognitive impairment; a subgroup resembling autism (24%) but who had late age of onset or too severe cognitive delays or were too young to potentially meet the full diagnostic criteria for autism; and a group (52%) not fulfilling the criteria for autism because of fewer stereotyped and repetitive behaviors."
Yes, a lack of diagnostic criteria. Because they don't met them enough diagnostic criteria. That's PDD-NOS.
What else are you trying to say?
I mean, that was clear from the beginning...
27 Jan 2013, 11:36 am
Raziel wrote:
DVCal wrote:
Raziel wrote:
DVCal wrote:
Raziel wrote:
I was dx with HFA years ago, but I was "right on the edge" of the diagnosis.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
As a child I was classic autistic actually, didn't talked and so on and I still have trouble with routines, overload and all that, but not that much social anymore (still a bit). So I asume the right diagnosis for me is PDD-NOS, but in my country it's not realy a typical diagnosis. For most shrinks either you have ASD or you don't.
Also when I did the AQ for the diagnosis I got 32 points, I was much younger then. But now I just get 26 points.
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
How it is already mentioned, PDD-NOS just means that you don't fullfill all diagnostic criteria, but those whom you fullfill are still strong enough for a diagnosis. So there is a spectrum from BAP (broad autism phenotype) over to PDD-NOS and to fullblown ASD.
This is simply incorrect. The spectrum does not work like that. around half of people diagnosed with PDDNOS full fill all of the requirements for ASD, but they have MORE symptoms so they are diagnosed with PDDNOS.
I just can think of McDD were this is the case and also often dx as PDD-NOS
Also when the development of autism is "atypical", but then you don't meet the dx criteria for the onset.
Other than that it means that you don't fullfill enough diagnostic criteria. If I'm wrong again, please give me a link to a website.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=p ... d_RVDocSum
The first group 24% meets all of the requirements for Asperger,but they are too cognitively impaired to be diagnosed with Aspergers.
The second group 24% is a mixed bag, they have all symptoms of Autism,but their onset is either too late, they are too young for a proper diagnosis, or they are impaired cognitively beyond what even classical autism allows.
The third group 52% include people who meet all of the requirements for classical autism, which includes speech delay, and cognitive impairment, but lack repetitive behaviors.
"In terms of level of functioning measures, the PDD-NOS children had scores that were between those of the children with autism and those of the children with AS. In contrast, the PDD-NOS group had fewer autistic symptoms, especially repetitive stereotyped behaviors, than both the autism and AS groups (chi2 = 11.06, p =.004). Children with PDD-NOS could be placed into one of three subgroups: a high-functioning group (24%) who resembled AS but had transient language delay or mild cognitive impairment; a subgroup resembling autism (24%) but who had late age of onset or too severe cognitive delays or were too young to potentially meet the full diagnostic criteria for autism; and a group (52%) not fulfilling the criteria for autism because of fewer stereotyped and repetitive behaviors."
Yes, a lack of diagnostic criteria. Because they don't met them enough diagnostic criteria. That's PDD-NOS.
What else are you trying to say?
I mean, that was clear from the beginning...
No where does it say they all lacked diagnostic criteria, in fact it says nearly half met all of criteria, but had extra criteria, so were placed in PDDNOS. You are trying misrepresent what is PDDNOS.
27 Jan 2013, 11:39 am
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27 Jan 2013, 11:40 am
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27 Jan 2013, 11:42 am
Raziel wrote:
So my ASD got better, but my mood got worse over the years.
...that's from trying to force yourself to fit into society, behaving as others do, but it doesn't come naturally. So it's a big strain on your mental health, causing things like anxiety and depression - known co-morbidities of AS. Many of us can fit in superficially...but it's at such great cost.
27 Jan 2013, 11:43 am
27 Jan 2013, 11:44 am
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