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What is the primary reason for disapproval of homosexuality?
Religion 36%  36%  [ 40 ]
Fear that homosexuals will be attracted to YOU 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Fear of disintegrating gender roles 10%  10%  [ 11 ]
Male fear of gay anal rape 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Homosexual intercourse cannot produce children 4%  4%  [ 4 ]
It just icks people out 18%  18%  [ 20 ]
It defies social norms 10%  10%  [ 11 ]
Other (please explain below) 15%  15%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 110

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08 Jan 2012, 12:39 pm

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That is correct. It is well documented that its in the animal kingdom and that is an answer to people who say its unnatural. I have seen a documentary about it, it was so funny. There was a gay sheep, and two gay swans. And the documentary made it as scientific as possible to present the case, then they showed their results to this posh, snobby Englishwoman who couldn't bear to watch male buffalos f*cking in a field.



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08 Jan 2012, 12:58 pm

I think that the answer is: modern people are against homosexuality because, for some odd reason, ancient Hebrew culture was homophobic.

The ancient Hebrews wanted to distinguish themselves from other ancients. They wouldn't eat pork, probably because their semi-nomadic ancestors lived on sheep and cattle. You can't herd pigs--you need to live in a settled place, and keep your pigs in your yard. When the Hebrews slaughtered the Canaanites, took over their cities and started living a settled existence, why wouldn't they have started raising and eating pigs? Pigs are yummy. No, they just had to be contrarian, and not eat pigs.

They thought that circumcising their penises made them special.

And, they were violently opposed to men having coitus with other men. Probably just to be different.

Lesbianism was cool with the Jews--just no man-on-man stuff.



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08 Jan 2012, 1:12 pm

pandabear wrote:
I think that the answer is: modern people are against homosexuality because, for some odd reason, ancient Hebrew culture was homophobic.

The ancient Hebrews wanted to distinguish themselves from other ancients. They wouldn't eat pork, probably because their semi-nomadic ancestors lived on sheep and cattle. You can't herd pigs--you need to live in a settled place, and keep your pigs in your yard. When the Hebrews slaughtered the Canaanites, took over their cities and started living a settled existence, why wouldn't they have started raising and eating pigs? Pigs are yummy. No, they just had to be contrarian, and not eat pigs.

They thought that circumcising their penises made them special.

And, they were violently opposed to men having coitus with other men. Probably just to be different.

Lesbianism was cool with the Jews--just no man-on-man stuff.


How can you explain homosexuality in cultures that don't practice Yahwehism then?



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08 Jan 2012, 5:13 pm

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How can you explain homosexuality in cultures that don't practice Yahwehism then?


Well, humans are a diverse species.

http://thingsifeelstronglyabout.blogspo ... -part.html

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In Azandeland, in modern day northern Congo and the Central African Republic, most men, or at least very many men, had homosexual affairs. However, most men were still expected to marry women, father children, and so forth. The Azande knew very well that some men preferred to have sex with other men. Although every man was expected to marry a women, Azande customs provided a man with an excuse to have sex with another man whenever he wanted, throughout life. Marriage between warriors and recruits was only a part of the Azande accommodation to male homosexuality. The Azande were not a liberal people. They were the rare example of a society that punished female homosexuality while imposing no penalty on males. Because it was thought fatal to any man who witnessed it, female homosexuality could, in theory, entail the death penalty. But in fact female homosexuality was common and the public knew about it. In an Azande folktale two women conspire to fool a husband in order to get together. The most common sexual activity between men was intercourse between the thighs. This sort of adaptation is common in cultures where homosexual affairs become fashionable among non-gay men.


And, among American Indians: http://www.outhistory.org/wiki/Native_A ... _1528-1976

At the bottom are a lot of links of accounts by Whites of homosexuality observed among American Indians



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08 Jan 2012, 9:42 pm

well, religion is the root of all evil, so.....



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08 Jan 2012, 11:10 pm

@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.



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08 Jan 2012, 11:18 pm

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@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


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09 Jan 2012, 12:16 am

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well, religion is the root of all evil, so.....


:lmao:

No it's not. If religion didn't exist, people would find another reason to hate those that are different or that they don't understand. It's just human nature.


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09 Jan 2012, 5:37 am

Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.



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09 Jan 2012, 8:10 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.



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09 Jan 2012, 8:13 am

pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.


Not really.



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09 Jan 2012, 8:31 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.


Not really.


You may wish to take a trip to the zoo, or watch some YouTube videos. At least for mammals, the penis enlarges, enters the vagina, and ejects semen. After the animal's gestation period, a baby comes out of the vagina. This is how humans do it, too.



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09 Jan 2012, 8:45 am

pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.


Not really.


You may wish to take a trip to the zoo, or watch some YouTube videos. At least for mammals, the penis enlarges, enters the vagina, and ejects semen. After the animal's gestation period, a baby comes out of the vagina. This is how humans do it, too.


That's very general.



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09 Jan 2012, 10:30 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.


Not really.


You may wish to take a trip to the zoo, or watch some YouTube videos. At least for mammals, the penis enlarges, enters the vagina, and ejects semen. After the animal's gestation period, a baby comes out of the vagina. This is how humans do it, too.


That's very general.


no simply very litteral,

you wont find a scientist that doesnt call humans for animals,

factually we are animals.


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09 Jan 2012, 10:36 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.


Not really.


You may wish to take a trip to the zoo, or watch some YouTube videos. At least for mammals, the penis enlarges, enters the vagina, and ejects semen. After the animal's gestation period, a baby comes out of the vagina. This is how humans do it, too.


That's very general.


So, what is it that makes the human urogenital system unique among mammals?



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09 Jan 2012, 5:37 pm

Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
pandabear wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Oodain wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
@pandabear: comparisons to animals don't work. Most people think they're better or above animals.


then most people are wrong, they are animals.

thinking they are different wont make them so.


Animals are very different from humans. Thinking they aren't won't make it so.


The genitalia still work in the same way.


Not really.


You may wish to take a trip to the zoo, or watch some YouTube videos. At least for mammals, the penis enlarges, enters the vagina, and ejects semen. After the animal's gestation period, a baby comes out of the vagina. This is how humans do it, too.


That's very general.


no simply very litteral,

you wont find a scientist that doesnt call humans for animals,

factually we are animals.


Every one of these 'scientists' would also say that there are some fairly significant differences between us and the rest.