Musicians who have (or may have?) Asperger's Syndrome.

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20 Mar 2015, 12:47 am

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I also think Kurt Cobain was somewhat autistic, so were George Harrison and Syd Barrett.

Amongst living musicians I'm sure John Frusciante and Richard D. James (Aphex Twin) are too.


I think Kurt Cobain might still be alive today if he were diagnosed autistic and he pursued therapy. That said, he did run away from rehab shortly before his death, so therapy may not have helped. :(

It's funny you mention that, because I've been listening to a lot of Aphex Twin lately. Richard D. James doesn't exactly strike me as being an aspie, though he's definitely a bit eccentric. :P I'd also say he's an underrated musical genius, probably just as talented as, if not moreso, than Trent Reznor.



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20 Mar 2015, 1:34 am

I think Maynard Keenan is quite likely, his music is incomparable and you have to be pretty damn obsessive to make wine as good as his. Lady Gaga is so bizarre I wouldn't be surprised at all, I knew a spectrumite girl who was almost as batty.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Ian Bavitz (Aesop Rock), his music contains so many cryptic allusions to social withdrawal, misanthropy, math, science, physics, darkness & hooliganry that I'm amazed I'm not related to him.


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20 Mar 2015, 9:55 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
30400v wrote:
I also think Kurt Cobain was somewhat autistic, so were George Harrison and Syd Barrett.

Amongst living musicians I'm sure John Frusciante and Richard D. James (Aphex Twin) are too.


I think Kurt Cobain might still be alive today if he were diagnosed autistic and he pursued therapy. That said, he did run away from rehab shortly before his death, so therapy may not have helped. :(

It's funny you mention that, because I've been listening to a lot of Aphex Twin lately. Richard D. James doesn't exactly strike me as being an aspie, though he's definitely a bit eccentric. :P I'd also say he's an underrated musical genius, probably just as talented as, if not moreso, than Trent Reznor.


I guess that if he died it's because he had to. I don't know if therapy and diagnosis could have changed anything for him.

John Frusciante was in the same kind of s**t around that time, and probably wasn't knowing what felt wrong with him, but he didn't died because he retreated in his own world for 5 years and fixed himself to keep living.

Do you know the Analord serie Richard D. James released under the name AFX? To me this a perfect soundtrack about being autistic. (it's not easy listening music but if you let it grow inside you it might start resonating in your head)

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20 Mar 2015, 10:07 am

There are a great many Aspien musicians, it's very common to find them in orchestras and ensembles where they fit in easily, because artists of all kinds are very accepting and non-judgemental - probably because they are often pretty weird themselves. A friend of mine conducts several major orchestras and teaches at the Royal College of Music in London, and has worked with and taught lots of people on the spectrum over the years. 'Aspies!' he once told me, 'orchestras are full of them, they're wonderful!'

I think that's a fairly ringing endorsement.



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20 Mar 2015, 1:01 pm

Hozier, the Irish singer songwriter that is well known for "Take Me To Church" his lyrics, personality, awkwardness, shyness, the way he speaks in interviews....I would bet money on him having Aspergers, I just get that vibe from him.



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20 Mar 2015, 4:39 pm

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There are a great many Aspien musicians, it's very common to find them in orchestras and ensembles where they fit in easily, because artists of all kinds are very accepting and non-judgemental - probably because they are often pretty weird themselves. A friend of mine conducts several major orchestras and teaches at the Royal College of Music in London, and has worked with and taught lots of people on the spectrum over the years. 'Aspies!' he once told me, 'orchestras are full of them, they're wonderful!'

I think that's a fairly ringing endorsement.

The sound engineers?


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21 Mar 2015, 12:24 am

Roky Erickson.



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21 Mar 2015, 5:22 am

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The sound engineers?


Absolutely. I was including them under the heading of 'musicians', but should have been more specific, sorry. Plus the lighting engineers and all the other technicians without whom no performance can happen. I worked in the theatre so I know how vital they are.



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21 Mar 2015, 8:50 pm

I certainly know my way around an EQ, sometimes not quite as well as my producer friends but as much or more than most audiophiles. Audio has helped me a lot in understanding the wider EM spectra as well as things like impedences, amplification, waveform analyses and data interpretation at large (DSP, charge coupled devices, radar/LiDar/backscatter etc...)


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24 Mar 2015, 9:59 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a huge chunk of musicians - certainly throughout history and still nowadays, although possibly less so, because of how commercialized modern music is - are either AS or heavy on the awkward/eccentric/talented character. Put it this way - you don't get to be a master guitarist/pianist/etc without long hours locked in your room doing the same thing over and over again.

With Mozart, Beethoven, etc it is blatantly obvious that they were AS, any description of their personality can point to that. Back then, the societies they were in recognized their gifts from an early age, found the place for them, and knew that the way that they acted was a symptom of that incredible gift, putting up with it was not a problem. Their work was more important than their image.

The mass media has changed that and made image more important. First of all, the legendary composers were way more autonomous than the big-name musicians of today. The composers wrote their music, from the heart, (the only way in which they knew how and were expected to) for managed performers to play, whereas modern music is basically written by and for the pursuit of profit and played by well-managed singers, guitarists, etc who in all actuality have a suspect role in the music they are so well known for. It is much harder to tell who they are at heart because not only do the record labels, music critics, etc have all the say in "their" music, they also control their media image, which is used to sell a certain shallow lifestyle to the public. Aspies aren't known for business approaches to things, not known for taking orders so readily, and most importantly not known for public image - so our role in music has probably declined since the 1960's. And that's just looking at it economically. I could get more into how the manufactured music of the past 50 years maybe part of some agenda that the mass media has - MKULTRA, Jim Morrison's dad, Laurel Canyon, etc - but that is when the claims shift more towards accusation.


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03 Apr 2015, 2:41 am

I suspect that Carrie Brownstein from Sleater-Kinney (as well as the show Portlandia) might be an aspie. She has said that she has difficulty with social interaction and is very shy. She has said that she has a lot of difficulty expressing herself emotionally. Se has said that she is very routine oriented and that she has a lot of anxiety when there is a lack of routine and predictability in her life. She has described herself as having a very analytical and mechanical way of thinking. She has said that she feels very much like an outsider. and she seems to have an almost encyclopedic knowledge about music, so it might be her special interest .



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19 Apr 2015, 6:11 pm

IDK if it's already been mentioned, but as far as I'm concerned, David Byrne (Talking Heads) is the patron saint of Asperger's Syndrome.

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19 Apr 2015, 7:27 pm

The late Amy Winehouse was often described saying and doing whatever she wanted without regard to social conventions and not understanding her celebrity She also was easily taken advantage of. So maybe.


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07 May 2015, 2:35 pm

Johnny Dean - Lead singer, Britpop group Mensware
I was diagnosed with autism as an adult – it's not just children who are affected


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07 May 2015, 6:33 pm

I know in heavy music, especially today, it's probably ripe with Aspies. Heavy music has gotten super technical and less emotional. Its not very popular at all anymore. It would be very easy to lose yourself in your instrument, even live. Its also an easy place for "weird" people to blend in, find a crowd and mimic the hell out of it. The heavy touring would not be very conducive though.

On that note, I have always thought the vocalist from The Red Chord may be aspie. This is only from lyrics, but his style is unusually disjointed yet poignant for the style. See: Embarrasment Legacy, One Robot to Another



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11 May 2015, 12:52 pm

This may be obscure to most, but Malefic from the US one man black metal band Xasthur is one I can think of after watching interviews of him in a documentary.
Kurt cobain is also one I've considered possibly being on the spectrum.