Why do the poor become fat?
Kurgan wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
Force isn't always a gun.
Force in this case means making someone do something they do not want and taking away any other option.
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You've already admitted the poor people face more obstacles than do rich people (relevant)
so what place has your finger waggling (not-relevant) here?
so what place has your finger waggling (not-relevant) here?
That having a little more obstacles doesn't mean that they have to be fat. They still have themselves to blame.[/quote]
Sorry, this post has nothing to do with the thread, but I just noticed your custom title, and I had to ask, how does one hunt shadows?
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1000Knives wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
Yeah, what he's saying is, for the chips, it's like 3.50ish for the biggest or bigger size bag. Which I've seen. http://www.amazon.com/Doritos-Tortilla- ... B002P16EN4 Speaking of Doritos, remember Doritos 3D? Those things were the best!
Yeah, I'm not sure how a specific type and size of junk food being sold for a comparable price to ANOTHER subsidized and relatively calorie-dense food is related to the caloric density of cheap vs. expensive foods, that being the topic.
1000Knives wrote:
As much as I believe produce is good for you and needed in the diet, people in the former Soviet countries weren't fat (though they were alcoholics.) They didn't get lots of fancy vegetables and stuff. Only potatoes, cabbage, the basics. I remember reading a girl in East Germany's article about her experience in East Germany as a kid, she said they only had bananas once a year. So life was much harder and people much poorer in those conditions, but the reason they didn't all get huge was because they cooked their food from scratch. That I think is the key to everything. Cooked food from scratch, and oddly, the Soviet government actually banned microwave ovens due to safety. Ironic... So no microwaves either. Yeah...
I dunno what a "fancy" vegetable is. All the things you named- potatoes, cabbage, and bananas- ARE produce, and they are extremely LOW-CALORIE compared to the foods cheapest in modern Western food deserts, which further illustrates the point. They are not, unlike dairy, wheat, corn, meat, etc, artificially-subsidized. They also don't have to be cooked at all.
Potatoes and cabbage are like 39c a pound.
LOL we'd save a lot of money if that was the case at stores here.
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ValentineWiggin wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
Yeah, what he's saying is, for the chips, it's like 3.50ish for the biggest or bigger size bag. Which I've seen. http://www.amazon.com/Doritos-Tortilla- ... B002P16EN4 Speaking of Doritos, remember Doritos 3D? Those things were the best!
Yeah, I'm not sure how a specific type and size of junk food being sold for a comparable price to ANOTHER subsidized and relatively calorie-dense food is related to the caloric density of cheap vs. expensive foods, that being the topic.
1000Knives wrote:
As much as I believe produce is good for you and needed in the diet, people in the former Soviet countries weren't fat (though they were alcoholics.) They didn't get lots of fancy vegetables and stuff. Only potatoes, cabbage, the basics. I remember reading a girl in East Germany's article about her experience in East Germany as a kid, she said they only had bananas once a year. So life was much harder and people much poorer in those conditions, but the reason they didn't all get huge was because they cooked their food from scratch. That I think is the key to everything. Cooked food from scratch, and oddly, the Soviet government actually banned microwave ovens due to safety. Ironic... So no microwaves either. Yeah...
I dunno what a "fancy" vegetable is. All the things you named- potatoes, cabbage, and bananas- ARE produce, and they are extremely LOW-CALORIE compared to the foods cheapest in modern Western food deserts, which further illustrates the point. They are not, unlike dairy, wheat, corn, meat, etc, artificially-subsidized. They also don't have to be cooked at all.
Potatoes and cabbage are like 39c a pound.
LOL we'd save a lot of money if that was the case at stores here.
www.pocketyourdollars.com/2012/09/aldi- ... 916-92212/
Check it out.
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