What do you think about the death penalty

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LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

G-d damnit LKL, the subject of this thread is crime and punishment. I have said before that I regard it as a punishment for violent crime and that it has nothing to do with my sexual interests. Nice strawman.

It's appearing in other threads, too.

I do mention it when it comes to crime & punishment but beyond that, no longer. Quit lying to my virtual face. You're very bad at it and I notice you do it quite often to peeps ITF.

I can, however, back up my statements with evidence:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf147261-0-270.html
I will grant that ArrantPariah was far, far worse than you in that thread; however, I'm sick of having to read about people's sexual fantasies on PPR. It should stay in the adult issues forum.

Now, can you back up your slander with evidence? Where have I lied about anyone?

not everyone who has sex with the same sex in prison is necessarily a homosexual...

I stopped seeing your point when you actually *advocated* rape as a punishment.

Face it. You are not a good person.

Never said I was. But lemme tell ya kid, I ain't dumb nor am I a bullsh*t artist like you.

It seems like most people favor the death penalty, or even if they're against it, it's only because they want the criminal to suffer more etc. Do you think most people really feel this way? Or are the vengeful just more outspoken in their beliefs?

I look at crimes as debts that have to be repaid. I mean, even if an accident isn't a "crime" in a prosecutable sense, I think people owe it to each other to make things right. So for most accidents, mistakes, or intentional crimes, it is possible to assign a value to a person's personal loss and expect the person responsible for that loss to somehow repay that value. Or if you can't afford repayment, there has to be some way of making it up to that person that is acceptable to all people involved.

The trouble is when you INTENTIONALLY cause the death of someone, you cannot repay that debt. By that I mean you can't put a price on someone's life. There aren't many, but I really do feel like certain few crimes really do demand the life of the guilty. Treason would be one such crime. I also think if you falsely accuse someone of murder or you are guilty of causing someone to be falsely convicted and sentenced to death--and that's even if they are found innocent or never have to actually be put to death--you should receive the death penalty.

And if you're concerned that killing can't be justified for any reason, consider that if someone actually commits a crime and is put to death for it, the responsibility for his own death is entirely his and thus no executioner nor state justice system need carry the guilt.

It seems like most people favor the death penalty, or even if they're against it, it's only because they want the criminal to suffer more etc. Do you think most people really feel this way? Or are the vengeful just more outspoken in their beliefs?