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No, its where my father's from.

((Nice job in the Yorkshire.

Actually, Yorkshireans are helpful for Shakespeare coursework.))

@Metabird

Which model of pædophilia are you using? I don't want to jump to monopath conclusions so I'll just list what I can come up with along with a possible response and if there is an extra one, please enlighten me. n_n

1) Pædophiles are bad degenerates that encroach on the balance of our society and therefore must be incarcerated, destroyed or cured. Change pædophile with any minority group and this sounds like hate to me, probably should create a thread in the Adult Section to discuss this if it isn't against the rules

2) If that person is a pædophile, Spacecase has every right to be homosexual. I doubt if you are taking this stance, however I think this is the most fair stance since what right do people have over what someone else is innately prone to be when you are that way yourself.

3) This person is actually a molester/rapist. Please don't try and correlate pædophilia with child molestation, that's like saying a heterosexual/bisexual/homosexual means the person is a rapist. But, yeah I agree that such people don't really deserve undue respect either.

I'm somehow expecting model 3 to be the most likely in this situation since I'm supposing this matter is quite serious to you. Thank you for your time.

Where did THAT come from?

Try and keep different conversations in their respective threads, please! It confuses foolish old men like myself when this happens.

Not to mention turns the attention of SpaceCase away from the thread.

@Sociable Hermit:
I don't know who your confused beratement is aimed toward, but I quoted "MetaBird" whose post in this thread on the topic of a potentially serious reason why the parents do not need respect along the bigot bashing derailment. So, it's probably not the current or favoured topic, but it is a topic brought up inside this thread so it's not alien in any way.

Anyway, I'm only eager for metabird's clarification of what was meant in the post Metabird created in this thread, if you have input on what metabird meant, I'll be happy to hear about it. =\

Ah, found it!

Taruby, Metabird's comment was in itself a cross reference to another thread.

I think it was meant to illustrate a point about Chrisesmom's views, with regard to SpaceCase's situation, not form a whole new branch of discussion within it.

Sorry, I'm over-analysing now!

Wonder where chrisemom got to?

Chrisesmom: You've been diagnosed as an aspie. I seriously doubt you haven't had at least one incident in your life where you have been mistreated for being different. I'm willing to bet that you have even been upset by it, and possibly asked for help or assistance on this website. I'm sure if nothing else you've gotten something out of this website, directly or indirectly. Yet you attack her for being different, and for not being ok with others attacking her for being different. So she may not have reacted in the most peaceful and understanding way. I don't really think you did, either.

Nobody inherently deserves respect. They have to earn it. Sure, parents should be respected to a reasonable degree, but just as respect can be earned, it can be lost. To claim otherwise would be like saying someone deserved more respect because they are older. Age and familial relation are one thing and one thing only, labels. They are not honorific titles that "deserve" respect.

Furthermore, a child does not live for the whims of their parents. We aren't pets, playthings, or anything like that. If you had a kid that didn't grow up to pursue whatever career you wanted them to, would you be equally as hateful towards them? Would you consider that a lack of respect towards you? Would a child disagreeing with their parent be disrespect? Respect does not require agreement. You seem to miss this point. You get upset because someone isn't as respectful as you think they should be, and yet you've been far more disrespectful.
[/angry rant to someone that likely "gave up" on this long ago, thankfully]

SpaceCase: sorry a thread where you sought help, or at the least understanding, got turned into a soap box for a hate-mongerer, or at the least an insensitive clod. The only people that have any right to be mad (and not even mad at you, more mad at the situation) that you aren't straight would be straight guys. I wish I had something to say that could "improve" the situation, but it may take a long time for your parents to accept things as they stand. As much as it sucks, they may never accept it. Unfortunately you aren't exactly in the best location for your orientation either. Moving somewhere more accepting could do a lot of good. I know my cousin did well in Austin, in fact its where she met her current girlfriend. I'd recommend looking into peoples' ratings (if such a listing exists, if not I might have to look into starting it, even though I'm straight... "we're on a mission from god," the god that may or may not exists and isn't happy with all the little zealots out there...) on different cities and see if nothing else if there's one that's well rated near you. Once you're out of your parents place (granted, you have a little while still) things will be able to improve. I remember seeing a thread you had started elsewhere asking about organizations at colleges, I'm pretty sure most every college (at least every state college, private colleges may not be as good, especially the religious ones) will have such groups. I don't know, like I said, I wish I had better advice, but right now its mainly just "stay tough, your parents can't be overbearing and controlling forever." You've proven you're damn tough, just try and stay tough for a little longer.

Quite - one of my roleplay characters would prefer to be firmly on dry ground.


As far as the male-line goes, though, he'd be the first to actually do that in a very long time.


Does that make him disrespectful towards his family history?


I don't think so.