Grrrrness... >:X

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You NT?

Sorry, I happen to think you're talking a load of tripe.

What about the problem of evil?
Oh, wait, it must be satan's fault, right?

Yes, its reasonable of her brother to believe in some invisible dude in the sky that can do anything helping her or anyone else for that matter.


Psssht.

Let me say here and now that I do not consider the bible a relaible and/or accurate source of evidence.


(Bible coming from "Biblios" meaning 'book'. The translators thought soooooooo highly of the thing that they gave it a name like THAT.)

If spacecase is being blatantly hateful and disrespectful, then you should be able to come up with at least 10 examples off the top of your head.
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.

Yeh, I'm sure she disappointed her parents already - she's here on WP, isn't she?


Anyway since God is all-powerful, if He really wants her to change, He can sort it out Himself. can't He?.

I do not know why you feel the need for defending - that's what imperfect beings require. Would you please enlighten me?

If it comes to praying, doesn't the bible say about 'praying for others'?

In that case it would be more sensible for her brother to pray for her, would it not?


Hold on, you confused me.


On the one hand, her parents have every right to be disappointed. On the other hand, spacecase must not be disapointed . Why is this


Anyways, you go ahead and attack how people feel anywhere BUT NOT IN THE HAVEN!! ! It is explictly stated that you DO NOT poke fun at feelings in the haven!! !
The entire point of the haven was because people were dismissing genuine complaints as trolling.

You may attack feelings in:
GADF
GTKEOF
RDF
NACEF
MODF
LADF
PDF
FAGSIF
SACLF
WAFAJF
AWMF
TEAFF
CMSATF
GSAFF
AAIF
AFF
KCF
WDF
MDF
W.NDF
SF
ENDFF
PPRF

Anywhere you like EXCEPT THE HAVEN!! !

You claim that spacecase is being disrespectful - well, let me tell you something.

You're the one being disrespectful - NOT ONLY have you gone against the explicitly stated rules for the haven - you have commited one of the few social blunders that you can commit here on WP.

Until you have some evidence from a source that is free of bias, don't even try to debate with us.

Now, don't EVER let me catch you berating someone in the haven again.

*stands up*

*shouts this from the stomach:*
DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?

Well like the 90% who base morality on fictional works they are usually hypocrites. Lets not confuse the issue here. Their is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Spacecase
has a right to be mad because she is being discriminated against by bigots in this world.

Wow, I am blown away at some of the responses you have recieved on this board to your situation. Let me begin by saying I am a youth minister and I live in the state of MS. I am shocked at your blatant hatred and disrespect for those who birthed you and raised you just because they can not understand your life choices at the moment. It seems to me you are just trying shove your orientation down their throats and force them to accept it despite the fact that you seem well aware that their faith (which they have probably practiced all of their lives) does not condone a same sex lifestyle. Why can you not be patient? Maybe if you would just quit throwing it in their faces with time they might come to accept this in your life. Did you imagine that when you told them they would just throw their arms around you and tell you how happy they were for you?? If your are mature enough to come to terms with your sexuality then you should be mature enough to allow your parents the time they need to come to understand and accept this. Your discovery of your sexuality has been the destruction of a lifetime of their dreams, from the day you were born they have dreamt of your future, that future included a husband and grandchildren, for godsakes give them time to grieve. This is the death of a lifetime of dreams they had for you. You say they have no concern for your salvation, well do you? You are of the age of accountability, no one should be more concerned with your salvation then you, and if your not then why should anyone else be. As for your brother praying for you not to be gay any more it is not as ridiculous as it would seem. Don't Christians believe that if you are dying of a terminal disease that God can cure you and make you whole? They also believe God can make the impossible possible, so it stands to reason he can change the desires of your heart. I am not saying that you should change I am saying that it is resonable for your brother to believe that you could change through the power of God. Whatever your orientation is that is the least of your problems, your anger and rage at our parents is an issue that goes far deeper and one that you should take a much needed look at.

I'd advise getting outta there at the first sensible chance that presents itself.

Christian extremes will never change their views, so MOVE OUT as soon as you can make a living!

In any case, I hope you're able to hold out until you can get out, SpaceCase.

How many times has God sat in an emergency room with her or gotten up in the middle of the night with her when she was ill? How many times has God driven her to the mall, taken her to the movies, put a quarter under her pillow when her tooth fell out? WHERE HAS GOD BEEN ALL HER LIFE?

Tonight,there was a Christmas play performed by the elemetary at my younger siblings' school. When the program was done,I was talking with one of my friends and her new boyfriend.I saw my Mom talking with some of her friends,but I didn't really pay attention to them.

One of the women walked up to me,a few minutes later and said,"Congradulations! You FINALLY have a boyfriend!"

I'm like,"What??? No,I don't."

She said,"But your MOM said you did."

I REALLY let my Mom have it when we got home. I said,"Why in the HELL are you telling people that I have a f***ing boyfriend!"

She yelled,"Because I WANT YOU TO! I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE A QUEER!"

She broke down,crying,and Dad came outside and told me to go to my room.

On my way to my room,my 15-year-old brother stopped me.

He said,"Casey(my family calls me by my first name instead of my second),WHY do you want to be gay?"

I was still mad,so I yelled,"I DON'T WANT TO BE F***ING GAY!I DIDN'T EVEN CHOOSE TO BE GAY! I JUST WANT TO BE WITH THE GIRL I LOVE! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!????"

He actually started CRYING.

He said,"Please,pray to God that you won't be gay anymore."

I said to him,"I refuse to pray to a god that I don't believe in."

Thank God she did not date a black man they may have lynched him. Since she dated
a girl she only has to burn in a hell that exsist only in theists twisted minds.

Thank God she did not date a black man they may have lynched him. Since she dated
a girl she only has to burn in a hell that exsist only in theists twisted minds.

Where I live, which is near the Tennessee-Mississippi border, there's a church-run program where parents send their gay kids in hope of turning them "straight". Think locked psych ward + Christian indoctrination camp and you'll get the picture. Then imagine being confined in a place where all contact with the outside world, your friends, family, books, television, privacy.....everything is taken from you until jesus "heals" you of your homosexual tendancies.

This is what passes for Christian "love" and acceptance down here in the good ole' South. So I can definately understand why Space Case is upset with her parents' attitude toward her orientation. It's not just a matter of them "liking" her being gay. Her freedom could possibly be at stake depending on how desperate her parents are to change her. She's still a minor and here, when it comes to anything done in the name of religion, even locking away their own children, parents can do whatever d@mn well they please.


And yeah, I can't wait to leave this backward region, myself.

Where I live, which is near the Tennessee-Mississippi border, there's a church-run program where parents send their gay kids in hope of turning them "straight". Think locked psych ward + Christian indoctrination camp and you'll get the picture. Then imagine being confined in a place where all contact with the outside world, your friends, family, books, television, privacy.....everything is taken from you until jesus "heals" you of your homosexual tendancies.

This is what passes for Christian "love" and acceptance down here in the good ole' South. So I can definately understand why Space Case is upset with her parents' attitude toward her orientation. It's not just a matter of them "liking" her being gay. Her freedom could possibly be at stake depending on how desperate her parents are to change her. She's still a minor and here, when it comes to anything done in the name of religion, even locking away their own children, parents can do whatever d@mn well they please.


And yeah, I can't wait to leave this backward region, myself.

What about people from Leeds?

Where I live, which is near the Tennessee-Mississippi border, there's a church-run program where parents send their gay kids in hope of turning them "straight". Think locked psych ward + Christian indoctrination camp and you'll get the picture. Then imagine being confined in a place where all contact with the outside world, your friends, family, books, television, privacy.....everything is taken from you until jesus "heals" you of your homosexual tendancies.

Plot Outline: A naive teenager is sent to rehab camp when her straitlaced parents and friends suspect her of being a lesbian.