Kraichgauer
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04 Nov 2012, 6:36 pm
04 Nov 2012, 8:19 pm
Kraichgauer
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Posts: 47,782
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
04 Nov 2012, 11:25 pm
auntblabby
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05 Nov 2012, 12:09 am
Dox47 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
there is a perenneal critical mass of americans who cannot put aside their petty mutual hatreds and prejudices long enough to vote in their collective best self interest, and so republicans get most often elected, and then these same clueless voters wonder why they keep getting screwed. 
Looked in the mirror lately? I can all but assure you that the Democratic party does not have your best interests at heart, though they're admittedly more likely to pander to you than the Republicans are.
3rd parties just aren't a realistic option here in america, they most often are just spoilers. i made my 3rd party mistake back in '80 which meant i denied a vote to carter which caused [in small part] ronnie raygun to get in and make the 80s a lost decade for me. no more CETA. most of the good entry-level factory jobs exported = very few jobs especially for unskilled people=homelessness. skyrocketing school tuitions putting upgraded skills beyond the reach of those who need them the most. the lions' share of this occurred in the 80s under raygun's watch. obamacare is a hopeful lifeline for me [with my preexisting medical conditions], i'm not rich enough for real health insurance especially now after my accident and a mountain of medical bills. if obamacare were in effect last august, i'd be in much better shape now. so you can call it "pandering" all you want but it is a real social good the democrats gave commonfolk like me, over the decades.
Kraichgauer
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Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,782
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
05 Nov 2012, 12:25 am
auntblabby wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
there is a perenneal critical mass of americans who cannot put aside their petty mutual hatreds and prejudices long enough to vote in their collective best self interest, and so republicans get most often elected, and then these same clueless voters wonder why they keep getting screwed.
Looked in the mirror lately? I can all but assure you that the Democratic party does not have your best interests at heart, though they're admittedly more likely to pander to you than the Republicans are.
3rd parties just aren't a realistic option here in america, they most often are just spoilers. i made my 3rd party mistake back in '80 which meant i denied a vote to carter which caused [in small part] ronnie raygun to get in and make the 80s a lost decade for me. no more CETA. most of the good entry-level factory jobs exported = very few jobs especially for unskilled people=homelessness. skyrocketing school tuitions putting upgraded skills beyond the reach of those who need them the most. the lions' share of this occurred in the 80s under raygun's watch. obamacare is a hopeful lifeline for me [with my preexisting medical conditions], i'm not rich enough for real health insurance especially now after my accident and a mountain of medical bills. if obamacare were in effect last august, i'd be in much better shape now. so you can call it "pandering" all you want but it is a real social good the democrats gave commonfolk like me, over the decades.
Amen, brother Blabby!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
