Who are your most sympathetic villains?

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18 May 2013, 3:22 am

1. Harvey Dent / Two Face, especially in TDK. The price he paid for refusing to bend was breaking. Besides, I can completely relate to a black/white way of looking at the world ...

2. Magneto. I don't agree with what he did, but I can understand why he did it, yes.

3. Kaiser Soze :)

4. Cato in the Hunger Games. He was brutal and terrible but his last words really said a lot about the world that made him what he was.

5. The Operative - Serenity. How badass was he? I loved him. He really believed what he was doing was right.


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05 Jun 2013, 5:13 pm

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Adrian Veidt, Khan Noonien Singh: They wanted to bring order to the world, also Khan went nuts after his wife died.
Magneto: Survived one holocaust, trying to stop another.

In general, I admire intelligent villains, also I want Khan's intellect/strength, Adrian Veidt's accent and Magneto's powers/abilities.


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05 Jun 2013, 6:15 pm

The Cylons
Godzilla
Walter White
Frankenstein
Dragons


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05 Jun 2013, 6:54 pm

Misslizard wrote:
The Cylons
Godzilla
Walter White
Frankenstein
Dragons


Do you mean Frankenstein or Frankenstein's monster?


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05 Jun 2013, 8:25 pm

The Cat Woman .



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05 Jun 2013, 8:41 pm

Nagato (aka Pain), from Naruto.



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05 Jun 2013, 9:38 pm

Hannibal Lektor. He is so cool and intelligent.

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06 Jun 2013, 12:35 am

ArthurDent wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
The Cylons
Godzilla
Walter White
Frankenstein
Dragons


Do you mean Frankenstein or Frankenstein's monster?


The monster.


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06 Jun 2013, 6:08 am

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Can't forget the Phantom....especially when he's Gerard Butler :wink:
THIS so much, also when Ramin Karimloo plays Erik/Phantom ;)

Tywin Lannister-Game Of Thrones

Gollum/Smeagol until he became more Gollum at the end of Two Towers

I´d like to add Mother Squid from The Beast, I felt bad for her when she lost her kid :cry:


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06 Jun 2013, 6:24 am

The Sandman (Spider-Man 3)


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10 Jun 2013, 10:13 am

Cat from Zelazny's Eye of Cat. Also Billy Singer's Chindi from the same book. As antagonists, Cat who has lost everything just wants one last chance to be himself and hunts Billy and I totally get that. He's lost everything and due to his current predicament as being a zoo exhibit, has been forced to be different than what he knows he would have been, had he been left alone. I really feel for him, right up to the end. The Chindi because well, there really are few things worse than fighting yourself, especially the part that you've run away from your whole life. As someone who figuratively has to battle with things my past self has done, I like Chindi because well, I know what it's about. Thank god I don't have to actually fight a real literal version of what I run away from though.

Fenris from Norse Mythology. Yes he'll destroy all of creation when he's set free, but perhaps if he, oh you know, would have actually had parents that disciplined him as a child, then perhaps he wouldn't bring about the apocalypse. I feel for this guy because he is a product of his environment. Everything bad he will do or has done can be tied to other people f*****g up with raising him and they act like it's not their fault. If I could, I would punch Loki, Tyr, Odin, and the dwarves, and numerous other Norse deities in the face for what they've done to Fenris to allow him to get out of hand.
I also like Fenris from A. Lee Martinez's Chasing the Moon. Especially in how he leaves our layer of reality at the end after Diana gives him a good talking to. All it took was someone to talk to him, someone who gave a damn.

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11 Jun 2013, 5:12 am

Sympathetic Villains as in "they're cast as the bad guys, but I feel sympathy for them anyway"?

The Creature (Frankenstein)
Magneto (X-Men)
Khan (Star Trek: The Original Series "Space Seed" / The Wrath of Khan / Into Darkness)
Mephistopheles (Dr Faustus)
Most of the recurring villains from Disney's Gargoyles. That show was a miracle in that way -- nearly all of the villains had multi-facetted personalities and motives that went beyond "I want to rule the woooooorld muhahaha". That was really rare in children's television at the time.
Some of the 'career' tributes from the Hunger Games



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11 Jun 2013, 6:23 am

Following behind Anakin/Vader, I will say both Maul and Dooku from Star Wars. Both were only tools for the real villain, Palpatine. He used them so he could get Anakin as the apprentice he really wanted. Look at how he betrayed them. On The Clone Wars show, right after he killed Savage Oppress, he said to Maul, "Remember the reality of the Sith. There can only be two. And you are no longer my apprentice! You have been replaced!"
And Dooku? Palpatine says to Anakin, "Good, Anakin, good! Kill him. Kill him now. Do it!" Both of these guys were misled and used, that's the bottom line.


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11 Jun 2013, 4:24 pm

um.. heroes or villians I felt were hard done by. fiction and real life based

1. Phantom of The Opera - although not Michael Crawford. he was funnier in comedy.

2. The Terminator III - Arnold Schwarzeneger

3. The Shining and the story of James Dean

If there were any more, I would have listed them too. unless someone else defies to mention anything that might make me think twice.



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13 Jun 2013, 2:10 pm

Don Gallico in "The Mad Magician", played by Vincent Price. He really is the hero of the film, it's set up so that the crowd cheers as he offs someone else. It was made in 1954.



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14 Jun 2013, 6:27 am

1. Roy Batty
2. Lestat de Lioncourt
3. Hannibal Lecter
4. HAL 9000
5. Catwoman