Would the world be better off if it was run by autistics?

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Would the world be better off if it was run by autistics?
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androbot2084
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02 Dec 2012, 8:12 pm

Of course neurotypicals will say that there are no autistic geniuses.



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02 Dec 2012, 8:24 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Autistics are the superhumans.


I think you might be a bit mistaken there. If they were superhuman they would excel both socially and academically.



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02 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm

Once autism becomes accepted then autistics will excel socially.



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02 Dec 2012, 10:48 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Of course neurotypicals will say that there are no autistic geniuses.

No they won't. That's insane, and many autistics have been recognized as geniuses by NT organizations.

So, for instance Vernon Smith, a reported autistic, is the holder of a Nobel Prize in Economics.(well, it's given a slightly different name but whatev) Now, Vernon Smith is autistic. A Nobel Prize is, in all but name, a recognition of genius. The Nobel Prize in Economics probably mostly involves NTs, and it's certainly recognized as relevant by NTs.

Not only that, but there are a number of tropes we have that appear to match autistic personality traits. Like the eccentric professor. Also, there are figures in popular TV that appear autistic, like Sheldon Cooper on Big Bang Theory is very often considered to portray autism due to his intense literalism, obsessiveness, need for routine, and a large number of other traits. He's also usually portrayed as the smartest guy on the show, a literal genius.



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02 Dec 2012, 10:49 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Once autism becomes accepted then autistics will excel socially.

Hard to say. Autism is usually considered to involve theory of mind issues. If autism involves theory of mind issues, and social success intrinsically involves game-theoretic evaluations using theory of mind, then autistics having lower social success on average is the expected outcome.



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02 Dec 2012, 11:06 pm

Would the world be doing better if it were run by autistics? Probably not, people on the spectrum are way more predisposed to emotional acts than most people realize. We have good traits that neurotypicals tend to lack, but we also have our own flaws.



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03 Dec 2012, 12:19 am

I worked at a hospital and I proposed turning all of the handicapped patients who were in wheelchairs into robot cyborgs. For a while I became the lady's man until the women thought I was crazy.



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03 Dec 2012, 8:18 am

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Its difficult for me to get this ASvNT paradigm out of my head, really hard.

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Try harder. 99 percent of the human race are not like us nor will they decrease in their relative numbers. It is our burden to learn how to live with them and still be ourselves. I am an Aspie (I do not give a crap what DSM-V says!) but I have learned to adapt to the NT world. I am married to an NT and I have 4 children and 5 grandchildren only one of which shows any indication that he is on the Spectrum. I have learned to regulate my external behavior so that I can pass for human quite well. It took me a long time to do this, but I did it.. I am as literal minded as I ever was, but I learned a simple truth --- silence is golden ---. So when I am asked what color is my coat I refrain from saying things like: my coat is blue on the side facing me.... I still think that way but I have learned to keep my peace.

The world is not quite ready a The Fair Winess (see wiki article and R.A. Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land")

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03 Dec 2012, 12:50 pm

It depends on the autistics if its the LFAs it would be like the Flintstones but if it were all HFAs it would be a highly technologicly advanced society where everyone is at peace with one another.


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03 Dec 2012, 2:36 pm

We are not special.
We are not better than NTs.
We are not superior beings.
We are not the "next step on the evolutionary ladder."
We are not the future of humanity.

We are people. We are no less complex, no less flawed, no less extraordinary than any other people.

We are different, to be sure. But that difference does not entitle us to any belief in our superiority.


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03 Dec 2012, 3:22 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
It depends on the autistics if its the LFAs it would be like the Flintstones but if it were all HFAs it would be a highly technologicly advanced society where everyone is at peace with one another.


It'd be peaceful until the first disagreement, people on the spectrum can be just as opinionated as a neurotypical. While we can be effective leaders, people on the spectrum have a harder time getting along with people that have different opinions than many neurotypicals do (when they choose to behave maturely).



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03 Dec 2012, 4:10 pm

Yes, it would. Only if it's the nonverbal ones though.



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03 Dec 2012, 8:54 pm

visagrunt wrote:
We are not special.
We are not better than NTs.
We are not superior beings.
We are not the "next step on the evolutionary ladder."
We are not the future of humanity.

We are people. We are no less complex, no less flawed, no less extraordinary than any other people.

We are different, to be sure. But that difference does not entitle us to any belief in our superiority.


Very well said. :thumleft:

And that's coming from the boy who lied about the German pirates.


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03 Dec 2012, 9:30 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
It depends on the autistics if its the LFAs it would be like the Flintstones but if it were all HFAs it would be a highly technologicly advanced society where everyone is at peace with one another.


Highly doubtful. Be we NT or On the Spectrum we are still primates.

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03 Dec 2012, 9:55 pm

SpiritBlooms wrote:
So I think the world would be better if it was run by people who know how to be leaders versus controllers, dividers, arguers, and party-line toers.


I was going to comment but that sums it up