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naturalplastic
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24 Dec 2012, 11:58 am

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Its used as an apology for sounding arrogant. If youre a scientific layman and you are expressing the opinion that Einstein was a dolt and that you know better than he about the workings of the universe- you might preface it with "IMHO"


I think that's a pretty bad example to choose. If you are genuinely convinced that somebody is a dolt and their reasoning is wrong, why apologise for pointing it out?


Because your accusing them of being a dolt!

For one thing!

Do you enjoy being called a dumbcluck?
But thats obviously not my main point.


Obviously my point was not that youre critisizing "someone" (just anyone) but that youre giving the appearance of thinking that youre a higher authority than the worlds foremost and most exhalted authority on the subject in question ( you know who Einstein was dont you?).

Lecturing folks on how you know better than einstein about physics might appear arrogant to some.



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24 Dec 2012, 12:00 pm

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If the person really was humble, they wouldn't be saying that.


Clearly you don't know as much about humility as I do. :wink:

I, by contrast, have won humble pie-eating contests. :P


You excel in humility, and are damned PROUD of it!

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24 Dec 2012, 12:07 pm

I just use IMO. The "H" seems unnecessary.



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24 Dec 2012, 12:13 pm

All of you folks who use it to mean "in my honest opinion"- why do you bother using that expression at all (instead of just IMO)?

If you give an opinion- it assumed that its your 'honest"one.
So why bother with the "h"? Its a tautology- like saying "a single bachelor".

It concievably might make sense to use it if: youre trying to warn the reader that "im not going to sugarcoat this-what follows is something that you dont want to hear." But I never see "imho" used that way.

So since you all never use it that way- why use it at all?

But the "humble" version IS often seen when folks launch into treatises about how "I know better than the Pope how to be Catholic", or "I know more than Einstein about physics". So atleast the 'humble' interpretation has some logic.



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24 Dec 2012, 2:01 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Plodder wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Its used as an apology for sounding arrogant. If youre a scientific layman and you are expressing the opinion that Einstein was a dolt and that you know better than he about the workings of the universe- you might preface it with "IMHO"


I think that's a pretty bad example to choose. If you are genuinely convinced that somebody is a dolt and their reasoning is wrong, why apologise for pointing it out?


Because your accusing them of being a dolt!

For one thing!

Do you enjoy being called a dumbcluck?
But thats obviously not my main point.


Obviously my point was not that youre critisizing "someone" (just anyone) but that youre giving the appearance of thinking that youre a higher authority than the worlds foremost and most exhalted authority on the subject in question ( you know who Einstein was dont you?).

Lecturing folks on how you know better than einstein about physics might appear arrogant to some.


Yes I know who Einstein was. Theoretical physics is one of my special interests. There is some doubt over whether Einstein's theories were right or not, because classical physics cannot currently be reconciled with quantum mechanics. His theories only work for classical physics; they do not work for quantum physics. That is why I said you picked a bad example. Many professional physicists and laypeople alike feel that Einstein's theories were incorrect, so disagreeing with Einstein in particular was not a good example to choose.



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24 Dec 2012, 2:40 pm

OK.

IMHO Mick Jagger cant do rocknroll!

IMHO Mikhail Barishonokov couldnt dance!, and neither could Fred Astaire!

Not that those are my actual opinions- but that those would be better examples.

Ya happy now?

Lol!