Losing my mind over the need for affection

but here is some food for thought for you to consider- what if that hugging handholding love which may yet present itself to you, comes with conditions? like "i'll give you more loving if only you would cut your hair or get a better job or whatever?" wouldn't that take the niceness out of the hugs and handholding? i know it would for me.
And that's why I don't have it... because I don't have someone in my life who loves me for who I am.
too bad you're not within driving distance of olympia, you'd find people [in my group] who would definitely accept you for who you are.
I'm skeptical.
I am slowly losing the desire for companionship/affection as well and i'm only 21, I've been hurt and scarred. But they say it's a numbers game so you can't give up. The reason everyone dresses up and acts like they do is because everyone only wants the best or is trying to act the best they can because society is messed up.
But in contrary to what I'm saying when I go out I see girls with makeup caked all over their faces flirting with the most arrogant, uneducated guys. So I have to either choose to try and socialize with these types of people or not do anything at all.
I've even stopped going out lately, haven't been out in probably 2 months. I am even starting to think I won't find anyone at all.
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But in contrary to what I'm saying when I go out I see girls with makeup caked all over their faces flirting with the most arrogant, uneducated guys. So I have to either choose to try and socialize with these types of people or not do anything at all.
I've even stopped going out lately, haven't been out in probably 2 months. I am even starting to think I won't find anyone at all.
Society being messed up doesn't seem to be the leading reason I think. I think that these guys show more confidence than aspies, and this is one of the major barriers that I think is holding me back. It's hard to try and build up confidence when I have absolutely no clue where to start.
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"Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up."
This.
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they accept me, so why would they not accept you?
Because I'm not you. That's like saying that anyone who likes my father will like me because we have a couple of things in common. Now that I think of it, I don't think my best friend and I have any mutual friends. Her friends think I'm a freak.
I can relate to the OP. Combined with my own personal experiences, I'm starting to believe that the reason some of us lack success in the romantic realm is because we look for something that only very very few people look for in the romantic realm.
I have no problem befriending women, I get along fine with women, they flirt with me a lot, they tell me I'm a great guy, they come to me for relationship advice, yet they don't want me as a boyfriend and their boyfriends are nothing like me. At first I used to be cynical, and adopt the "women like assholes" mentality. But while this might be true for some, it's not always true, and there is a lot more going on that just that.
It boils down to this: What most people (women) look for in a relationship is different from what you or I look for. Well, that's obvious, Sherlock. But really step back and think about what that means and see how it manifests in your life.
Sure they might genuinely see me as an awesome guy, a guy they can turn to when they're having trouble with their relationships etc. They might cherish my ability to listen, and my wisdom. Yet when it comes to relationship, this is not what they want. They might want a feeling of physical security. they might want social status, or someone who reminds them of a father figure they never had, or financial security etc. etc. Which is why they would date a 6 foot 5 inches tall guy even though they are only 4 foot 9 inches. The value of the sense of physical security they feel trumps any other potential downsides or flaws that exist in that guy.
As for me, what I look for is that abstract John Keats style "sighing under the moonlight" idealized form of romance. Lots of gentle touches, and physical affection (NOT necessarily sex). I want to woo her with my poetry and piano compositions (I'm an amateur musician). Sadly for me, not too many contemporary women are looking for that in a relationship. So no matter how great a guy they might think I am, I am not 6 foot 5, and wont provide the sense of physical security they want from a relationship if physical security via height is what they are looking for in a relationship.
Basically you have to wait until the stars align and you're lucky enough to find a woman who appreciates what you offer and is looking for that in a relationship. Maybe you are a man who offers financial security, maybe you are a man who offers height, maybe you are a man who offers the sensitivity and introspection of an artist, maybe you are a man who will make all her friends jealous because of your prestigious job etc. etc.
All this seems so simplistic and obvious, yet it took me years of confusion,and pain to figure this out.
Basically you have to wait until the stars align and you're lucky enough to find a woman who appreciates what you offer and is looking for that in a relationship. Maybe you are a man who offers financial security, maybe you are a man who offers height, maybe you are a man who offers the sensitivity and introspection of an artist, maybe you are a man who will make all her friends jealous because of your prestigious job etc. etc.
All this seems so simplistic and obvious, yet it took me years of confusion,and pain to figure this out.
This is my big fear. I'm afraid that waiting even longer and being patient is only gonna cause my insanity. I don't want to go crazy and lose my mind because this is something that I worry about almost every damn day, and there's not a damn thing in this world that can keep my mind occupied and away from those thoughts. They'll always come back.
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"Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up."
Everyone feels like this
I felt my virginity was like a millstone around my neck that I needed to get rid of and it didn't happen until age 21
It's normal to want to experience all life has to offer and it will come - don't panic
I would say that you are talking about two different goals though
1. losing virginity
2. finding a partner for a relationship
The one can be achieved far more easily than the other in my opinion
I have no problem befriending women, I get along fine with women, they flirt with me a lot, they tell me I'm a great guy, they come to me for relationship advice, yet they don't want me as a boyfriend and their boyfriends are nothing like me. At first I used to be cynical, and adopt the "women like assholes" mentality. But while this might be true for some, it's not always true, and there is a lot more going on that just that.
It boils down to this: What most people (women) look for in a relationship is different from what you or I look for. Well, that's obvious, Sherlock. But really step back and think about what that means and see how it manifests in your life.
Sure they might genuinely see me as an awesome guy, a guy they can turn to when they're having trouble with their relationships etc. They might cherish my ability to listen, and my wisdom. Yet when it comes to relationship, this is not what they want. They might want a feeling of physical security. they might want social status, or someone who reminds them of a father figure they never had, or financial security etc. etc. Which is why they would date a 6 foot 5 inches tall guy even though they are only 4 foot 9 inches. The value of the sense of physical security they feel trumps any other potential downsides or flaws that exist in that guy.
As for me, what I look for is that abstract John Keats style "sighing under the moonlight" idealized form of romance. Lots of gentle touches, and physical affection (NOT necessarily sex). I want to woo her with my poetry and piano compositions (I'm an amateur musician). Sadly for me, not too many contemporary women are looking for that in a relationship. So no matter how great a guy they might think I am, I am not 6 foot 5, and wont provide the sense of physical security they want from a relationship if physical security via height is what they are looking for in a relationship.
Basically you have to wait until the stars align and you're lucky enough to find a woman who appreciates what you offer and is looking for that in a relationship. Maybe you are a man who offers financial security, maybe you are a man who offers height, maybe you are a man who offers the sensitivity and introspection of an artist, maybe you are a man who will make all her friends jealous because of your prestigious job etc. etc.
All this seems so simplistic and obvious, yet it took me years of confusion,and pain to figure this out.
I can sympathise with this. I want a relationship like the one you've mentioned.
I want someone who appreciates the artistic introspection and creativity, but also wants to share their own way of seeing things. If that's poetry or music or art then so be it. In fact I'd enjoy someone reading poetry to me. As long as it wasn't some cheesy Hollywood sort of romantic gesture, which attracted lots of attention. I'd find that unnerving and uncomfortable. But if it was more subtle or just a gesture to be shared between those in the relationship then I'd be all for it. Like sitting together on the lounge together and sharing our favourite poems.
I want a sensual physical relationship but also an intellectual and creative relationship too.
I definitely don't want someone like my father, or who boosts social status or who buys me extravagant gifts. I do want a feeling of security, but I don't see that as gender specific, it's what should happen in any relationship. Both people should endeavour to provide the security or environment where their partner can comfortably be themselves. It's the knowledge that you can be yourself and trust them not to belittle or hurt you.
Also, W.B Yeats is cooler than Keats.
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I'd be more concerned with finding a partner, myself. Sexual urges can be mastered by exhausting yourself on other fronts - extreme!
At ~35, probability of genetic defects in offspring increase greatly, (reguardless of gender). I'll truly panic when I'm a 30-year-old-virgin.
As another note: I read somewhere that women are psychologically considered adults at ~18-20 years old. Men are psychologically considered adults at aroud mid-20's. There is a reason older men date younger women.
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well im 18 and never had a gf. I kno it suks. I think about it sometimes. But remember this, people don't respond to negativity very well. So you gotta be positive than people will be drawn to you. What im trying to say is, you need a serotonin boost. Ever tried going to church? You should try that.
Oh yah, I recommend getting a pet dog and getting counseling. That stuff helps with stress.
Oh yah, I recommend getting a pet dog and getting counseling. That stuff helps with stress.
Both apartments (home and at college) do not allow pets. Believe me, I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Church? Not much of a religious person. I'm a spanish catholic, but I don't practice it.
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"Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up."
I feel like I'm losing my mind too.
I'm not asking for hot sex, just a cuddle every now and then would be enough for me- but you're not allowed to cuddle women unless you're already having sex with them, and you can't have sex with them until you follow 101 stupid rules about dating and play the game for months and take their stupid s**t and I just can't stand it.
The place to start is with friendships, especially same sex, non-romantic friendships. Things like vulnerability, trust, and empathy are things you need to start PRACTICING. You aren't going to be able to think this out, you have to start changing habits and behaviors. The effort of making change here means you're going to fail at it. It will be better to fail in this before you have the added pressure of romantic relations.
So, as a beginning step, start trying to form genuine friendships.
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