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Should Tim get a PC or Mac for his next computer?
PC 42%  42%  [ 8 ]
Mac 58%  58%  [ 11 ]
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13 Jan 2007, 12:57 am

We went from 5 pcs to 2 iMacs and it's been the best decision we've ever made. Hands down the iMac out performs any PC and I have always had top of the line this or that systems. In the 1.5 years with my macs (one intel and one pre-intel), I have only had to re-boot when there are system upgrades....and that may have been only around 4 times....??? I use one iMac at my retail store as my point of sale (my cash register) and my other one for graphic design.

For the ease of use, reliability, looks, functionality...the imac wins everytime! As soon as a set of software arrives next week...my hubby has already given me the go ahead to video me throwing the PC tower over our balcony!! ! That will go on Youtube fer sure.

I run XP (when I have too...ick)..on OS X while doing my other mac programs and it never misses a beat! To be honest, Windows XP runs better on the mac than on the craptop we keep only for use of a particular $$$ color laser printer that we cannot part with.

And if you do purchase a mac...forget that that "new computer set up routine"...you know what I am talking about...the day you set aside HOURS to assemble all of your PC attachments and spend your ENTIRE day loading software and drivers!! !! !! !! It's really like the commercial...it's ready to go out of the box as soon as you turn it on in 4 minutes. Apple's commercials are very right on with the pros and cons of both systems.

And firing up the mac from cold start...takes about 10 seconds...where the windows....hmmm...well I have time to make toast and coffee. I just love Apple cause everything works, all the time and I get paid to work on my computer as a graphics designer so I just cannot rely on a PC anymore. Lost time=no paycheck when deadlines for my clients are not met.

And on a personal note...the ooh and ahh factor for our home movies just stuns friends and family and I only use the templates that came with iLife. I created a wedding DVD for my friend and it turned out better than the one she paid mega bucks for from a professional videographer. Now as far as Gaming...I have no personal experience on the mac, cause we use stand alones like Xbox and PS2....

Personally I don't need to customize the mac...I did that when I ordered it online so no need to take apart. And I am able to upgrade the memory through an easy to access slot underneath without having to go near any of the hardware or risk damage through static...been there with a PC when a curious cat swiped by me as I was changing a card out.

People who usually "dog" the macs are those who hate anything that is non-mainstream. It's no different than the American car vs. German engineering discussion I have with my redneck friends who will buy a crappy vehicle just bc it's made in the USA. Sorry, but reliability is my main justification over any product any day.

Just remember too, Macs are created for ease of use. Not everyone is computer savvy or wants to be a computer geek. I think it's cool that a company can cater to such a diverse audience and age group.
my 2 cents...
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13 Jan 2007, 2:46 am

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SGI is a little outdated considering it went under a couple years ago.


Dur, you're right; my bad. Haven't followed it too much lately... too much GW.

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Just remember too, Macs are created for ease of use.

This is true.
Personally, I like both but can't afford both, and PC does what I want (if not always at the speed or level of competence that I'd like) so most of my Mac use has been in the office.



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13 Jan 2007, 6:19 am

Sorry, I meant Mac Pro not PowerMac....

http://www.apple.com/uk/macpro/

*drooling uncontrollably*



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16 Jan 2007, 1:48 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtba2GkVOII[/youtube]



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16 Jan 2007, 2:10 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtba2GkVOII[/youtube]



lol be careful otherwise you'll be joining me and the Belgian anarchist in that WA state sharkpool. :lol:



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16 Jan 2007, 3:25 pm

You must all realize your grave errors in deciding a Macintosh is better in performance than a PC. The problem here is lack of understanding in regards to just what a PC is capable of doing.

Let us analyze why a Mac is not something you want to own.

My father purchased a G5 model (prior to intel being brought into the loop) and afterwards his cd burner broke. Now all is well an good with Apple Care, they fixed it free of charge. The main problem here is they replaced his single layer with another single layer, even though new models come with dual layer! Talk about cheap, lmao What's worse is the price of replacing this single layer burner without coverage would've amounted to 280 dollars! Now let's examine a PC in the same scenerio.

DVD Burner fails, goto Best Buy and get another dual layer for 60 bucks. Pop it inside your system yourself, presto.

Umm yeah, Macs are sooo good there :-Z~ it'll cost as much as Windows Vista to replace the broken parts! LMAO

Here's another reason.... Macs don't have better graphics capablities, are you joking? Exactly what programs are better on a Mac than a PC? Why does it run better? Maybe because it has absolutely no software to run, therefore it's functioning is improved over that of a PC! Think about it, XP runs alot of services, most of which don't have equivalent OS X counterparts. That being said with the abundant freeware available for Windows you'll not have any trouble finding the right application for what you need.

Now look at a Mac, umm freeware? When is the last time you saw something freeware that didn't resemble a childs programming? LMAO

So there you have that, there is nothing free on a Macintosh, it all costs, and dearly I might add.

Think the hardware is better, the OS more reliable? We already proved the first to be false... next the OS.

OS X, the best? Well... best for what? Not gaming that's for sure, OS X still uses OpenGL to drive it's gaming, lmao So you say graphics software then? Yeah..... ummmm which software? Why is it better? Because it's got a built-in monitor calibration tool? That things about as useful as dirt on wagon. Sure you can setup your monitor to look nice, but what about when you take the file somewhere else an view it?

Let's move on though... you've calibrated your monitor, it's pretty.

The Dock? Hahahaha, are you kidding me lmao Yeah the Dock sure is great huh, you can drag away icons accidently and then forget what they are, you can run out of space and then have eye strain. Popup icons are a must, but ummm menus work too :-P Try making an outline with icons see how far you get, then use menus, yepo you'll like them more!

ok so now we are here, do I get a Mac or PC? Well... Quad-core comes soon, without Intel Power PC chips would've been toasted... ok. What's better, the capablities of a PC or Mac?

After having gone through the list it's clear, Macs do nothing, that's why they never crash! They have limited software, limited requirements, and limited stuff. You won't need to install any drivers because Apple already knows everything you can buy for a Mac! hahahhaaha

Drivers are good, they allow updates.

Now you say no more defragmenting? Ummm ok. No scandisk? Yeah ok... what about when something goes wrong an you can't retrieve nada from your Mac? Normally on a PC just get a spare HD an install an OS, then you get your stuff off the other HD (set as slave).

Ever notice something weird on your discs made using OS X? DS_Store, etc.... those files are about as useless as a cow in your home! Pathetic, and they're added to anything you do. Not because it's needed, because it's stupid! People on a PC would be like wtf is that stuff, hahaha.

Oh, I can take stuff from a mac and bring it to a PC, mess with it, and it'll corrupt the file easily. OS X can't, no matter what I do to a .exe mess it up. Mac is loose, not strong, it falls apart when merged with XP. XP on the other hand can do anything, haha.

"I still want my graphics programs and Macs rule there". LMAO, yeah sure people, and when DirectX 10 comes out then what are you gonna say? If you can't use DX10 you're like a dinosaur, it's sad... what kind of graphics ability does a Mac have with OpenGL that hasn't been updated in decades?

Nuff said, you loose Macies, go get a PC that's cheaper, easier to fix, has more software, has the best.

PS Remember, replacing a DVD Burner on a Mac is akin to buying Windows Vista, may as well get a PC :-P



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16 Jan 2007, 4:47 pm

sderenzi wrote:
You must all realize your grave errors in deciding a Macintosh is better in performance than a PC. The problem here is lack of understanding in regards to just what a PC is capable of doing.

Let us analyze why a Mac is not something you want to own.


I want my Mac Pro so bad, I'm practically having wet dreams over it. But let's see your argument....



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My father purchased a G5 model (prior to intel being brought into the loop) and afterwards his cd burner broke. Now all is well an good with Apple Care, they fixed it free of charge. The main problem here is they replaced his single layer with another single layer, even though new models come with dual layer! Talk about cheap, lmao What's worse is the price of replacing this single layer burner without coverage would've amounted to 280 dollars! Now let's examine a PC in the same scenerio.

DVD Burner fails, goto Best Buy and get another dual layer for 60 bucks. Pop it inside your system yourself, presto.

Umm yeah, Macs are sooo good there :-Z~ it'll cost as much as Windows Vista to replace the broken parts! LMAO


Why didn't you put that $60 drive in the G5?

As for cheapness, don't get me started on microsoft. You can't even quickly search for stuff on a windows machine. They only just learned about the concept of tabbed browsing. NTFS wastes an insane amount of the hard drive....




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Here's another reason.... Macs don't have better graphics capablities, are you joking? Exactly what programs are better on a Mac than a PC?


Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Adobe Photoshop Elements for starters.




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Why does it run better?


Because unlike with windows the OS wasn't written by a bunch of drunken chimps.




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Maybe because it has absolutely no software to run,


You call this "absolutely no software" http://www.apple.com/uk/software/ ?




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therefore it's functioning is improved over that of a PC! Think about it, XP runs alot of services, most of which don't have equivalent OS X counterparts.


Even when you close them down and have a really streamlined install, like mine, it's still an inferior product to Tiger. Leopard will slaughter both XP and Vista.




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So there you have that, there is nothing free on a Macintosh, it all costs, and dearly I might add.


OK, stick with your cheapo toy OS. A Lexus or Mercedes costs more than a Ford Escort, doesn't make the Escort "better". You're paying for quality and reliability with Macs but if your time isn't worth anything, it doesn't really matter.




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Think the hardware is better, the OS more reliable? We already proved the first to be false... next the OS.


Just because you, 1 person, had a bad experience with a DVD drive? Great evidence.





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OS X, the best? Well... best for what?


Productive work. If it's so bad as you seem to think, why is it the defacto standard amongst creative types?





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Not gaming that's for sure,


lol and now we get to the crux of it. Basically you want a toy. DirectX is all that Windows is good for.




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Let's move on though... you've calibrated your monitor, it's pretty.


If you don't like Apple's displays use something else. I'll probably be getting a nice Dell widescreen.





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The Dock? Hahahaha, are you kidding me lmao Yeah the Dock sure is great huh, you can drag away icons accidently and then forget what they are, you can run out of space and then have eye strain. Popup icons are a must, but ummm menus work too :-P Try making an outline with icons see how far you get, then use menus, yepo you'll like them more!


Try installing more than a few dozen things in XP and being able to see them all via the Start menu. Besides, who ever heard of pressing a "Start" button to shut something down? Typical dumb microsoft primates. Try locating stuff quickly.




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ok so now we are here, do I get a Mac or PC? Well... Quad-core comes soon, without Intel Power PC chips would've been toasted... ok. What's better, the capablities of a PC or Mac?


Mac Pro ALREADY has quad-core thanks to having 2 dual-core CPUs. Just think a few months from now they could have 2 quad-core chips. When was the last time you bought or built a PC with 2 CPUs?



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Now you say no more defragmenting? Ummm ok. No scandisk?


Yeah saving huge amounts of time and hassle in the process.



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Yeah ok... what about when something goes wrong an you can't retrieve nada from your Mac? Normally on a PC just get a spare HD an install an OS, then you get your stuff off the other HD (set as slave).


WTF?



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Ever notice something weird on your discs made using OS X? DS_Store, etc.... those files are about as useless as a cow in your home! Pathetic, and they're added to anything you do. Not because it's needed, because it's stupid! People on a PC would be like wtf is that stuff, hahaha.


Ever noticed all the crap produced in windows?



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Oh, I can take stuff from a mac and bring it to a PC, mess with it, and it'll corrupt the file easily. OS X can't, no matter what I do to a .exe mess it up. Mac is loose, not strong, it falls apart when merged with XP. XP on the other hand can do anything, haha.


So how long you been working at microsoft then?



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"I still want my graphics programs and Macs rule there". LMAO, yeah sure people, and when DirectX 10 comes out then what are you gonna say?


I'll say, great, now I can play the latest games on my new Mac thanks to Bootcamp!



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If you can't use DX10 you're like a dinosaur, it's sad... what kind of graphics ability does a Mac have with OpenGL that hasn't been updated in decades?


Decades?



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Nuff said, you loose Macies, go get a PC that's cheaper,


Cheaper and nastier. I've already bought 5 and built 1 of them and quite frankly I'm now sick to death of that windows garbage. Tiger is a superior product to XP in everything other than gaming and Leopard will be a superior product to Vista in all but gaming. However, the gaming point becomes moot when you consider Bootcamp. Have you heard of Bootcamp? I'm guessing not. Well, it allows you to run Windows and Mac OS X on the same machine. Mac OS X for serious work. Windows for gaming. And all on the same machine. Oh well, there goes your gaming argument.




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easier to fix,


How do you fix the fact windows is inherently flawed? Crap file system, crap security, crap way of searching for stuff, crap at multitasking, crap at organizing folders and menus, the list of deficits is practically endless.




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has more software, has the best.


Also has more viruses and more overheard in the filesystem. NTFS? Who the Hell designed that? Gates daughter?




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PS Remember, replacing a DVD Burner on a Mac is akin to buying Windows Vista, may as well get a PC :-P


Only if you insist on buying the Apple one.


Anyway, I thought we Aspies were supposed to be of average or above average intelligence. Having read your post very carefully I see much evidence to the contrary.



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18 Jan 2007, 11:53 am

andy1976uk wrote:
I want my Mac Pro so bad, I'm practically having wet dreams over it. But let's see your argument....


Your statement is pointless.

andy1976uk wrote:
Why didn't you put that $60 drive in the G5?

As for cheapness, don't get me started on microsoft. You can't even quickly search for stuff on a windows machine. They only just learned about the concept of tabbed browsing. NTFS wastes an insane amount of the hard drive....


As far as I am aware PC components aren't viable options for use inside a Macintosh system. I may be wrong but isn't the DVD drive on a G5 much wider than a standard burner, I think there are other issues with installation too. Give it a try :L Tabbed browsing isn't exactly hardware related, you can use FireFox and have it, or the really cool IE7.

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Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Adobe Photoshop Elements for starters.


Yes but these aren't specific to a Mac, they first appeared on PC's I believe.

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Because unlike with windows the OS wasn't written by a bunch of drunken chimps.


It was written by massive amounts of programmers all working to design an OS they would use.

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You call this "absolutely no software" http://www.apple.com/uk/software/ ?


Yes I do! Everything listed is either a standard thing people need or something that's going to cost them money. I wouldn't call QuickTime or some other basic application SOFTWARE, I'd call it essential. It's pretty sad but from what I see all that page lists is ESSENTIAL programs, nothing that's SOFTWARE. And the freeware sucks bad :L

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Even when you close them down and have a really streamlined install, like mine, it's still an inferior product to Tiger. Leopard will slaughter both XP and Vista.


It's not inferior, it's better :) You realize we can make XP look exactly like the Macintosh using RocketDock (freeware btw) or some other skin from DeviantART? You're in a sad place if you think it's better when XP can look precisely identical... if you try making a Mac look like a PC however good luck, you're screwed (aside from installing XP LMAO).

andy1976uk wrote:
OK, stick with your cheapo toy OS. A Lexus or Mercedes costs more than a Ford Escort, doesn't make the Escort "better". You're paying for quality and reliability with Macs but if your time isn't worth anything, it doesn't really matter.


You're not paying for quality with a Mac, there's nothing good about it. If what you say is true they'd never have abandoned their Power PC chips in favor of Intel. Besides that it's so pathetic, now that they're using Intel's chips the entire OS is being emulated using something called ROSETTA. Basically they can't even run their own OS on a Macintosh anymore, this is why PC's are able to operate it now.

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Just because you, 1 person, had a bad experience with a DVD drive? Great evidence.


I mentioned more than that dork :-P

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Productive work. If it's so bad as you seem to think, why is it the defacto standard amongst creative types?


I'm not sure it is, there are just more people yapping about it. Do they even have Maya or 3D Studio Max for OS X?

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lol and now we get to the crux of it. Basically you want a toy. DirectX is all that Windows is good for.


No, this is merely a comment that they've been implementing improvements over common video for awhile now. DirectX can do much more than merely be used for games.

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If you don't like Apple's displays use something else. I'll probably be getting a nice Dell widescreen.


No no, I meant that OS X has a built in calibration tool, software, that lets you set the gamma, etc to perfect levels for your specific monitor. I am saying though this is the only advantage graphics-wise, and you can obtain the same thing on a PC using freeware stuff.

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Try installing more than a few dozen things in XP and being able to see them all via the Start menu. Besides, who ever heard of pressing a "Start" button to shut something down? Typical dumb microsoft primates. Try locating stuff quickly.


It does work, it's much easier :-P

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Mac Pro ALREADY has quad-core thanks to having 2 dual-core CPUs. Just think a few months from now they could have 2 quad-core chips. When was the last time you bought or built a PC with 2 CPUs?


When AMD released their 4x4 and 8x8 you'll not be thinking that anymore, goodluck though :-Z~

I've gotta go now, I have stuff to do. I think buying a Macintosh is a very bad idea though.



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18 Jan 2007, 12:38 pm

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andy1976uk wrote:
I want my Mac Pro so bad, I'm practically having wet dreams over it. But let's see your argument....


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Your statement is pointless.


Most of your statements were pointless hence why there's a tonne of stuff I didn't reply to.



andy1976uk wrote:
Why didn't you put that $60 drive in the G5?

As for cheapness, don't get me started on microsoft. You can't even quickly search for stuff on a windows machine. They only just learned about the concept of tabbed browsing. NTFS wastes an insane amount of the hard drive....


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As far as I am aware PC components aren't viable options for use inside a Macintosh system. I may be wrong but isn't the DVD drive on a G5 much wider than a standard burner,


I take it you haven't heard of drive mounting-brackets....

Here's another example of how you're wrong: http://www.superwarehouse.com/Plextor_CD-RW_PlexWriter_Drive/PX-230A_SW/p/478552

Notice the word "Internal", notice the words: "PC and Mac"?




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I think there are other issues with installation too. Give it a try :L Tabbed browsing isn't exactly hardware related, you can use FireFox and have it, or the really cool IE7.


Interesting you didn't address my NTFS comment. Ever heard of NTFS?

IE7? MS only discover tabbed browsing years after Opera, Netscape and Firefox. Typical of a company that doesn't innovate but merely imitates.



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Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Adobe Photoshop Elements for starters.


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Yes but these aren't specific to a Mac, they first appeared on PC's I believe.


They may not be unique to the Mac, but I believe the question you asked was,
"What programs work better on a Mac?".




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Because unlike with windows the OS wasn't written by a bunch of drunken chimps.


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It was written by massive amounts of programmers all working to design an OS they would use.


I bet even Gates himself uses a Mac so he can be productive and leaves Windows for his kids to play games on. :lol:




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You call this "absolutely no software" http://www.apple.com/uk/software/ ?


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Yes I do! Everything listed is either a standard thing people need or something that's going to cost them money. I wouldn't call QuickTime or some other basic application SOFTWARE, I'd call it essential. It's pretty sad but from what I see all that page lists is ESSENTIAL programs, nothing that's SOFTWARE. And the freeware sucks bad :L


That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life. :roll:
Are you really saying the likes of iWork, iLife, Final Cut, Applework, Garageband etc can't be categorized as software? :?

What is your definition of software anyway??? Socks? T-Shirts? Boxers? :lol:

Oh, here's some more links for you:

http://www.download.com/2001-2003_4-0.html?tag=dir

http://www.softwarearchives.com/macintosh/

http://www.tucows.com/Macintosh/

http://mac.softpedia.com/



What was that about no software?

I acknowledge there may be more stuff available for Windows, but just how many choices of media player, calculator or archiving program does one need? Don't forget there's an immense volume of crap out there thanks to millions of useless VB developers.
All the main stuff is available for both Mac and Linux.






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Even when you close them down and have a really streamlined install, like mine, it's still an inferior product to Tiger. Leopard will slaughter both XP and Vista.


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It's not inferior, it's better :) You realize we can make XP look exactly like the Macintosh using RocketDock (freeware btw) or some other skin from DeviantART? You're in a sad place if you think it's better when XP can look precisely identical... if you try making a Mac look like a PC however good luck, you're screwed (aside from installing XP LMAO).



Yes, but why would I want to make a Mac i.e. a computer with an attractive, user-friendly interface look like a Windows PC i.e. a computer with an ugly, unhelpful interface? I wasn't talking about looks anyway, I was talking about functionality and reliability. For starters, how are you supposed to quickly find something on your windows system? Google Desktop/Google Desktop Extreme? Garbage, or at least not in the same league as Spotlight.

What about multitasking? Windows and multitasking are basically incompatible concepts.

How about the command line? Microsuck have that pathetic DOS shell garbage. Mac OS has UNIX. You cannot seriously say the DOS prompt can take on UNIX?

Oh and Leopard will have "Spaces" when it's released, which is like the multiple Desktops of KDE. Where's the equivalent in windohs?

Let's not forget viruses. How many are there afflicting windows? How many are targeting Mac OS and Linux? The problem is literally thousands of times worse for windogs.

Oh yeah, what about the fact you have to reboot windont practically every 5 minutes, whenever you make any kind of change, but with Mac OS and Linux it's only MAJOR system updates that require a reboot?


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OK, stick with your cheapo toy OS. A Lexus or Mercedes costs more than a Ford Escort, doesn't make the Escort "better". You're paying for quality and reliability with Macs but if your time isn't worth anything, it doesn't really matter.


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You're not paying for quality with a Mac, there's nothing good about it. If what you say is true they'd never have abandoned their Power PC chips in favor of Intel.


That's one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. Your logic is deeply flawed. :roll:




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Besides that it's so pathetic, now that they're using Intel's chips the entire OS is being emulated using something called ROSETTA. Basically they can't even run their own OS on a Macintosh anymore, this is why PC's are able to operate it now.


andy1976uk wrote:
Just because you, 1 person, had a bad experience with a DVD drive? Great evidence.


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I mentioned more than that dork :-P


I see a bridge somewhere is missing it's troll, it's irrational noobie troll.




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Productive work. If it's so bad as you seem to think, why is it the defacto standard amongst creative types?


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I'm not sure it is, there are just more people yapping about it. Do they even have Maya or 3D Studio Max for OS X?


I have them both for windows and they're lame.




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Try installing more than a few dozen things in XP and being able to see them all via the Start menu. Besides, who ever heard of pressing a "Start" button to shut something down? Typical dumb microsoft primates. Try locating stuff quickly.



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It does work, it's much easier :-P


Oh that's simply a great argument. I take it you haven't experienced this first hand what with only being a gamer and no doubt only having a handful of programs installed. Once you have a great deal of things installed the Start menu becomes a huge inconvenience unless you spend hours manually fixing it up. KDE and Mac OS Tiger both have easier ways of finding installed programs. You heard of KDE? Mac OS has Spotlight, where's the equivalent in windows? KDE has a search facility located right on it's Kicker menu, where's the equivalent in windows?




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Mac Pro ALREADY has quad-core thanks to having 2 dual-core CPUs. Just think a few months from now they could have 2 quad-core chips. When was the last time you bought or built a PC with 2 CPUs?


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When AMD released their 4x4 and 8x8 you'll not be thinking that anymore, goodluck though :-Z~


Even if Apple can be matched on the hardware sometime soon, I really can't be bothered giving microsoft anymore of my money. Vista is such a ripoff.



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I've gotta go now, I have stuff to do. I think buying a Macintosh is a very bad idea though.


I've heard that kind of thing before, no doubt I'll hear it again. You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's completely wrong. I just think it's interesting how you're the only person in this thread falling over themselves to defend windows and microsoft. How is it that some very smart people in here are all backing the Mac? Is there any possibility your microsoft fanboyism stems from jealousy?
How is it that on a number of other threads on this site alone, there are many people saying "I want a Mac", "I'm switching" and so on, but no-one planning a transition from Mac (or Linux) to windows?



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18 Jan 2007, 1:25 pm

You are nuts man, plain and simple. I don't know where you get the ideas you have but clearly you lack logic yourself.

Since you can't agree with me you are now my enemy, prepare to die :-P~ Just kiddin, lmao

We shalln't agree, but I think these are fairly determining factors in my choice of computer.

1. OS X can no longer run natively using Macintosh hardware. When Power PC chips were replaced with Intel Apple designed an application to mimic the older chips, calling it ROSETTA. That's pretty depressing :-(

2. OS X may have spotlight but XP has search, these are basically the same. Search can find anything I need just like spotlight does :-?

3. To replace a DVD burner through Apple it would've cost 280 dollars. While other options exist the fact is it's easier to replace a PC's burner than a Macs.

4. Windows has DirectX, and while this is used in gaming there are more applications using it for a variety things at this point. Apple has no equivalent.

5. Freeware is more abundant for a PC, and thus more chance exists that you will find what you need. As far as I am aware Macs have so limited a selection that most of what you need isn't free.

6. Microsoft might copy some stuff, but honestly it runs better when implemented on their OS, lmao

Those are some things I think, but you can argue all ya want. Some people might concur with either of us, so oh well.

I now must depart, I luV u!



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18 Jan 2007, 1:28 pm

I voted PC because I have always used PC. The only time I ever used a Mac was when I was in school and I didn't care much for the interface. Then again that wasn't a fair test since that wasn't wasn't a high-end machine, and probably wasn't capable of running XP.

Mac might be better, I don't know. :?



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18 Jan 2007, 1:57 pm

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You are nuts man, plain and simple. I don't know where you get the ideas you have but clearly you lack logic yourself.

Since you can't agree with me you are now my enemy, prepare to die :-P~ Just kiddin, lmao

We shalln't agree, but I think these are fairly determining factors in my choice of computer.

1. OS X can no longer run natively using Macintosh hardware. When Power PC chips were replaced with Intel Apple designed an application to mimic the older chips, calling it ROSETTA. That's pretty depressing :-(


Rosetta is dead you don't need it anymore, software for the Mac is Universal which means its written to run on both PPC and Intel chips.




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2. OS X may have spotlight but XP has search, these are basically the same. Search can find anything I need just like spotlight does :-?


Uhm, no. Spotlight can find anything on your system more or less immediately, while only your descendants in the distant future will know the results of a windows search operation.
It can take hours here searching through my 700GB of stuff. With Spotlight I'd save that time.



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3. To replace a DVD burner through Apple it would've cost 280 dollars. While other options exist the fact is it's easier to replace a PC's burner than a Macs.


DVD burner is easy to replace, even the slot-loaders.




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4. Windows has DirectX, and while this is used in gaming there are more applications using it for a variety things at this point. Apple has no equivalent.


Apple has OpenGL and Quartz Extreme. OpenGL may not be at quite the level of DirectX, but it is updated often.

Anyway, if you insist on playing games, you simply use Bootcamp so you can have windows and Mac OS on the same machine. Saying this though, there are still plenty of good native games available for Mac; Civilization 4, Doom 3, Quake 4 etc.




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5. Freeware is more abundant for a PC, and thus more chance exists that you will find what you need. As far as I am aware Macs have so limited a selection that most of what you need isn't free.


What exactly is it that you can't find for the Mac???




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6. Microsoft might copy some stuff, but honestly it runs better when implemented on their OS, lmao

Those are some things I think, but you can argue all ya want. Some people might concur with either of us, so oh well.

I now must depart, I luV u!



ROFLMAO @ "some stuff". More like everything. Why so defensive over microsoft anyway, do you work for them? Own stock in them?



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18 Jan 2007, 1:57 pm

I bought an iMac yesterday, now I'm just waiting for it to arrive.



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18 Jan 2007, 1:57 pm

Read this, it'll convince you even if I can't :-)

http://codebetter.com/blogs/sam.gentile ... Sucks.aspx



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