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26 May 2016, 2:01 pm

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you're right, people are generally as*holes. as*holes are attracted to other as*holes.
my advice is, don't try to attract as*holes if you're not an as*hole.
women who aren't as*holes will find it hot if you're not an as*hole.


Unfortunately, this is not universally true and often untrue. Let's put it this way: insecure women who aren't as*holes often are attracted to as*hole men. Do not make the naive assumption that people are rational when it comes to dating, relationships, and sex.

So if you are a guy who is not an as*hole, then avoid women who are insecure and/or have baggage+dramatic tendencies. Your temperament will leave them feeling unsatisfied and bored. And this is particularly true when it comes to women with personality and anxiety disorders, like borderline and PTSD(though the latter isn't always true-but women who had an abusive male father or father figure growing up will unconsciously seek out men like him because that is what feels normal to them).



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27 May 2016, 8:17 pm

Watch any animal mating documentaries and you'll see it's always two males fighting with the females always going for the victors. Human women are no different. Subconsciously they like seeing dominance too.


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28 May 2016, 8:11 am

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No. That kind of behavior is disgusting and a complete turn-off. There's no excuse for bullying of any sort.


Females of all species get aroused by seeing the 'alpha males' AMOG/dominate the lesser males. Why should humans be any different?

Don't tell me you still believe in the Disney Movie version of life sold to you by your parents and the mainstream media.

All through my youth all i saw was the cutest girls dating the as*hole bullies and I got nothing. Why is there no truth in it. I'm sure not all these girls were wrong in what they liked. A small, skinny guy that can't fight other men and win just doesn't appeal to them.


I don't get aroused by "alpha males," believe it or not. They might have muscles, but a lot of them don't have brains, thus making them complete idiots. Idiots do not turn me on. And no, I was not sold any Disney movie version of life. I know what it's like to be bullied; do you honestly think I want to date guys who bully others? I think not.

You do realize there are muscular men who are intelligent, right?



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28 May 2016, 8:20 am

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I used to be a small, weak-looking, timid guy from my middle teens to early 20's and hated it. 5ft7 to 5ft9 and ranging from 110lbs to 130lbs from ages 17-21.

In college, around age 17-20, I used to get bigger guys bully me all the time. I noticed all these guys were very popular with the ladies. They were the sterotypical 'jocks'. They all had girlfriends but still felt the need to pick on and dominate me even though i had 0 girlfriends. I'm sure their bullying ways were not unnoticed by such ladies.

So, ladies, do you like this kind of macho, dominant behaviour in males? I mean, women are attracted to dominance right? And many ladies love the stronger-built looking chaps that can protect them from other males. So why SHOULD they not be attracted to male bullies that have a physical authority over smaller, weaker men.? I mean that's the order of things in animal kingdom - the larger males dominate and bully the smaller males, so why shouldn't it be that way with humans?


The problem that inevitably comes up in this types of discussions is that a male complains about not getting the female attention they want, discusses how confused they are about this, and then proceeds to recognize categories of or individuality in males while addressing females as a whole. Has anyone in history ever said, "Label me, you wild animal!" in the throes of passion? One reason you may not be attracting people is because you aren't seeing them as people.

Also, the guys who bullied you were popular with the women they were popular with, not all women. Your complaint also strangely implies that you must be one of the males these bullies are protecting those women from.



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28 May 2016, 8:34 am

Teenagers are the dumbest people on the planet. Don't worry about it.



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28 May 2016, 12:05 pm

Bullying is a complete turn off in what ever form. Someone who protects other weaker people is far more attractive to women as it displays the protector attitude that women seek when looking for a mate.

It's not the dominance itself that is attractive biologically but the ability of a man to be a protector for a women and her future offspring.



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28 May 2016, 12:13 pm

Whats so macho and powerful about a guy picking on someone who is smaller and less mean than they are? Someone who can't even fight back and defend themselves? That's about as unattractive as it gets IMO.

If some guy kicked a puppy, people would find that horrible and he'd probably get arrested. So why is it "okay" when it's a human? What a stupid world. :x



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28 May 2016, 12:24 pm

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Whats so macho and powerful about a guy picking on someone who is smaller and less mean than they are? Someone who can't even fight back and defend themselves? That's about as unattractive as it gets IMO.

If some guy kicked a puppy, people would find that horrible and he'd probably get arrested. So why is it "okay" when it's a human? What a stupid world. :x


The bully probably isn't afraid the woman will want to have sex with the dog :)

Sorry, couldn't resist...I agree with you, otherwise.



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28 May 2016, 12:25 pm

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Whats so macho and powerful about a guy picking on someone who is smaller and less mean than they are? Someone who can't even fight back and defend themselves? That's about as unattractive as it gets IMO


This. I think if a guy goes around constantly looking for ways to assert his dominance, that shows some real insecurity on his part. Yeah some women will find that attractive, but I'd hardly say it's the norm.



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28 May 2016, 12:41 pm

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Bullying is a complete turn off in what ever form. Someone who protects other weaker people is far more attractive to women as it displays the protector attitude that women seek when looking for a mate.

It's not the dominance itself that is attractive biologically but the ability of a man to be a protector for a women and her future offspring.



If a man is strong and dominant enough to bully others, then he can potentially use his strength to protect the weak. And that is what women are attracted to. Not necessarily big muscles, but the assertive "confident" personality type as well as being able to get other people on his side.



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28 May 2016, 1:58 pm

Xenosparadox wrote:
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Bullying is a complete turn off in what ever form. Someone who protects other weaker people is far more attractive to women as it displays the protector attitude that women seek when looking for a mate.

It's not the dominance itself that is attractive biologically but the ability of a man to be a protector for a women and her future offspring.


If a man is strong and dominant enough to bully others, then he can potentially use his strength to protect the weak. And that is what women are attracted to. Not necessarily big muscles, but the assertive "confident" personality type as well as being able to get other people on his side.



If he bullie weaker people then there is potential for him to be aggressive to me or my offspring. Therefore I would avoid this type for a man who stands up to those bully.

Confidence and strength is attractive. Aggression and inability to control ones anger is not. Those who act cool in situations and don't get angry or violent are shown to be more dominant.



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28 May 2016, 4:06 pm

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Bullying is a complete turn off in what ever form. Someone who protects other weaker people is far more attractive to women as it displays the protector attitude that women seek when looking for a mate.

It's not the dominance itself that is attractive biologically but the ability of a man to be a protector for a women and her future offspring.


If a man is strong and dominant enough to bully others, then he can potentially use his strength to protect the weak. And that is what women are attracted to. Not necessarily big muscles, but the assertive "confident" personality type as well as being able to get other people on his side.



If he bullie weaker people then there is potential for him to be aggressive to me or my offspring. Therefore I would avoid this type for a man who stands up to those bully.

Confidence and strength is attractive. Aggression and inability to control ones anger is not. Those who act cool in situations and don't get angry or violent are shown to be more dominant.



The final sentence is correct. And part of dominance is being able to crush your opponent like a bug without losing your composure. Bullies aren't usually angry or always physically violent. Quite often they use words far more effectively and rely on techniques like baiting(which is what most internet trolling is) to get their target to lash out in anger(AKA "butthurt rage")while they laugh at them.

Using anger as a weapon only works in certain situations. Like one where you are in a position of authority and you want nothing but compliance from your subjects. But asserting dominance, as I said before, involves more covert strategies that allow one to retain his composure but still throw his weight around.



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28 May 2016, 4:23 pm

Kindly don't make sweeping generalizations about what ALL women want or ALL men want.

Thank you.


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28 May 2016, 5:31 pm

Sounds like some kinda fetish lol, I don't think bullying someone who is no threat to you physically can be interpreted as attractive, I know some fall for the ''bad boy'' illusion but this would be stretching it if it was perceived as hot to watch someone push someone around when they know nothing will come back at them. I used to live on estates and went to a really rough school, really gutter trash level gals used to bully and push around timid and terrified girls in the class every now and then, I found it absolutely pathetic and hoped they'd get cracked by some other girl and see how they'd react then.



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28 May 2016, 9:21 pm

Alliekit wrote:
Bullying is a complete turn off in what ever form. Someone who protects other weaker people is far more attractive to women as it displays the protector attitude that women seek when looking for a mate.

It's not the dominance itself that is attractive biologically but the ability of a man to be a protector for a women and her future offspring.

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28 May 2016, 9:46 pm

Um not really.. but I am from a different era altogether. Girls often would give Jocks extra leeway in bad behavior because they are promoted by establishment. And girls that chase bad boys might like to see some fight action (requires equally dangerous opponent)

But still I am safe to say it not likely a truth today either.
If a girl specifically wants to witness such, she has a screw loose.
And if you know one like that steer clear! Who cares what she thinks is hot? She either hates you personally or is female version of guys that like to set their dogs on small things to rip them up. Ewww. :skull:


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