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Can Suicide Be Logical?
Yes 79%  79%  [ 37 ]
No 21%  21%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 47

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22 Jan 2007, 5:05 pm

I'm just saying, if your life sucks and your miserable, and your trapped, and there's no way out, why wouldn't a quick painless death be better than years of torment? What's the point in living a miserable life? Expecting someone to go through that kind of torment to make other people happy is selfish. Suicide is a right to self ownership. We have no choice of anything else, where we'll live, how we'll live, who are parents will be, etc..... Zero is greater than negative.
The individual's life is theyr life, nobody elses. Only that individual knows his or her pain. I honestly think alot of criminalizing suicide is just bred into society through the religious right, similar to how they breed society to act like sexuality is a horrible thing. Who owns us? I own myself (if at some point I blow my dome off, it's my right, though I'm not at that point just yet), but the government owns most people.
I mean I agree if someone committs suicide for something stupid like the average teen drama, that would be gone within a month or two at the most, that is stupid. Because then it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. But a permanent problem might take a permanent solution.



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22 Jan 2007, 9:33 pm

I don't think it's logical either...

Ones life doesn't have an "undo" option like on a computer! Once your "dead", you're "dead" and that's that -- you've reached "The Point Of No Return"! :roll:

BTW, if you're feeling like life "sucks"... before you put a gat to yo head, seek help -- that's what friends are for! !
It's really NOT WORTH IT, MAN! ! 8O

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"Suicide is not abominable because God prohibits it; God prohibits it because it is abominable."

-- ­Immanuel Kant --


"Not even a suicide does away with himself out of desperation, he considers the act so long and so deliberately, that he kills himself with thinking -- one could barely call it suicide since it is thinking which takes his life. He does not kill himself with deliberation but rather kills himself because of deliberation."

-- Søren Kierkegaard --


"Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder."

-- Arnold J. Toynbee --



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27 Jan 2007, 1:58 am

Remnant wrote:
Remescen, indulging in behavior that is risky is not suicide....etc.

Hmm...I meant to say that these 'behaviors' should be tried before you go PROPERLY and painlessly (there are ways of course). Its been a dream of mine to skydive, for example. But I'm not going to use it as a way to kill myself. That just gives the business a bad name...skydiving instructors gotta make a living too you know.

Im equating these risky behaviors as "going all out" activities similar to what terminal cancer/leukemia patients might try..for example riding on bullet trains:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ0WDXVW7Oc

Or saving people from their problems:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0230838/

THEN offing yourself with time-tested methods AFTER thinking about it long enough.

So don't hate me please, I hate being hated. :cry:



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27 Jan 2007, 2:36 am

TennisFanatic wrote:
BTW, if you're feeling like life "sucks"... before you put a gat to yo head, seek help -- that's what friends are for! !


That's all fine and dandy... if you have friends. I'm all alone.



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27 Jan 2007, 9:10 am

Tennis Fanatic: Now I know where the story "The Toynbee Convector" comes from.

What I like about so-called high risk activities is that I get to face something potentially deadly and work it out between me and Death. There are rewards, like the rush, the excitement, and to me the greatest reward is the sense of accomplishment, of having done something with life. People who don't do stuff aren't alive. Life is the capacity to do things.



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27 Jan 2007, 5:09 pm

ahayes wrote:
That's all fine and dandy... if you have friends. I'm all alone.


I feel the same way too! I don't get to hang with my friends very often because they always seem to be "busy" with their OTHER FRIENDS!! :evil: