Do normals care about freedom?
20 May 2013, 9:33 pm
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When they knocked at the door, Vanderburg looked out and saw armed men in casual clothing. He retrieved his gun. Vanderburg claimed the police never identified themselves, and that when they kicked down the door and saw he had a gun, they began firing. The police claimed they knocked and announced themselves and that Vanderburg -- who had no criminal record -- just opened fire on them, for no particular reason, "knowing full-well they were police officers." (The claim is made more dubious by the fact that Vanderburg was never charged with a crime.)
One officer was struck in the legs and shoulder. Another was shot in the stomach when a backup Dallas officer showed up after the shooting had begun, mistook the undercover cop for a suspect, and shot him -- just as Vanderburg had.
Vanderburg was shot in the head and abdomen. According to a lawsuit filed by his family, the police immediately called for paramedics for themselves, but waited more than an hour before getting medical attention for Vanderburg. Seven hours passed between the time he was shot and the time he was taken into surgery.
Police later arrested Martin -- their suspect -- at his new address. He was charged with misdemeanor drug crimes and released on bond the same day.
Vanderburg would undergo more than 80 surgeries, and incur medical costs of over $2 million. The raid left him deaf and paralyzed. He ultimately died from his injuries in 1986. A grand jury reviewed the case, and declined to indict any of the police officers on criminal charges. Shortly after Vanderburg died, the Dallas County DA's Office reopened the case when the coroner ruled his death a homicide. But for a second time, the grand jury declined to issue any indictments.
By 1988, the various jurisdictions involved with the task force had settled with Vanderburg's family for a little over $3 million. But no police agency admitted any wrongdoing.
Happens all the time, cops go to the wrong house on a drug tip and shoot people and/or their dogs. That's only one of many ways you can get screwed over even if you mind your own business and never even leave your house.
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21 May 2013, 1:04 pm
I think that conservatives and liberals (ACLU, did you know that McArthur was a card carrying member of the ACLU? When he was in charge of Japan, during the McCarthy period,he insisted that the Communist party not be banned! He hated commies,but knew that if you banned their freedom of expression,freedom of speech would be meaningless) * can agree that indefinite detention is evil!
I am a liberal and a libertarian! I believe we (as a group) are responsible for our fellow man. However, I believe in individual freedom. People hate ambiguity, but reality is not black or white.
* Similarly, I hate Nazis (neo or historical) but I will defend to the death their freedom of speech!
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22 May 2013, 4:09 pm
Hi. Well, there's anger and there's bitterness. I think I may have alexithymia because like someone on here said they don't know how they feel or are going to react to something, unless in highly aware circumstances or ones that we ought to be made aware of.
I cant always quote a hoax and sometimes I feel ashamed or upset by some of my thinking or feelings that I cant always place. its taken me a long time to accept that some things aren't always to be and that I do have some Asperger's mild or otherwise.
People have accused me in the past as being too big for my boots or thinking I know things I don't and for knowing too much. I didn't think or was mindfully aware of what I was saying or doing and often thought and perceived that logic was often the best course of action and the answer to most things. That's freedom thinking or whatever it is people think.
A 'normal' person even someone with a learning disability like dyslexia would acknowledge that having money and being liked don't often come hand in hand and are not often the right tools for privatised success or inner salvation. Once experienced, then some of these things are no longer essential or relevant in our daily lives unless someone makes a lifelong commitment to something you care greatly about and will discuss those things with you in a way that makes you feel comfortable.
Yeah, the more I dwell, or like to think about this, the options seem clear.
Asperger's is a condition that has evaded the public eye for too long; and someone needs to landmark some awareness in order to make our inner torment seem as real as it is.
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24 May 2013, 12:42 am
Quite frankly as long as my family okay I only really care about issues concerning animals (cruelty, endangered species) and the environment.
How does a lack of care for fashion make someone less shallow or more moral? It’s just an interest. Personally I take no interest in fashion and find it rather shallow but I’m sure I have interests that others find shallow (video games? Reading fiction? Daydreaming?) While I don’t understand the deal about fashion, I’m sure it gives them something.
I think Aspies are every bit as potentially shallow as NTs. One good example is all the guys who whine about hot/beautiful girls rejecting them for shallow reasons (as opposed for their deep reason of finding the person hot or beautiful). There have also been Aspies who have claimed to not be able to follow what people say if the person talking has a visible facial defect or bad teeth, because they’re too preoccupied with that to pay attention. Nor do I think we tend to be more objective. We take sides and are influenced by emotions and POV just like everyone else. I think Aspies priding themselves with being more moral and objective and deep are much like countries priding themselves for being great because of something they think they do better than others.
My experience and observations just don’t confirm it.
Me, I can be deep or shallow or something in between depending on mood and situation.
I’m certainly aware of being angry (or any other emotion) when I am so, but I don’t think “Now I’m angry”. I am filled with the anger, and depending on the type of anger (there are different kinds and degrees) I wanna lash out and kick something and scream and start arguments and I very, very much feel and experience the anger. Sometimes to the extent that I have to use a lot of will power to control myself. Strong emotions fill up every conscious part of me and are definitely experienced both in my mind and body.
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24 May 2013, 4:17 pm
Not as much as we do.
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