Would an autistic communist nation survive longer than a NT?

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You would define fairness as being equality at the lowest common denominator? Nobody is permitted to excel above others because it would be unfair to the lowest?

Conservatives define fairness as a responsibility of the poor to transfer wealth to the rich.

How?

That is about as crazy a statement as I have ever seen.

But go ahead and try to support it. If conservatives actually were to define fairness in that manner, then there would be plenty of statements to that effect. Where are they?

I dont see myself as an empathless lone wolf. I see myself as a logic dominated being, and from logic views communism is functioning. Its only NTs desire for ape-behaviour, fighting for Alpha positions and such nonsense that let our societies people choose to buy themselves nonsense to increase in the ape hierarchy instead of helping someone else, that still needs basic resources. A lot of the ressources we have are wasted for such nonsense, that has no other use, then to play the ape-hierarchy game. Who can afford new cloths every saison, who can afford a bigger car he dont need, who can afford the new I-phone that cant do anything else then the other 18 month old useless I-phone... the more needless nonsense you can afford to buy, the bigger chimp you are. If others wouldnt really need that ressources, there would be nothing bad about it. No cause to denie yourself some luxury, as long as everyone as good as possible provided, with what you need for basic living. But as long as we are still behaving like previous described as a society communism wont work, because there will always be people with self esteem issues, that need stuff to proof themselves that they are great chimps, and if they live in a system where they cant do that regularly, then they will break the rules and turn the system into a tyranny.

But for me personally, if I ever quit society, I would join one of the existing communes in europe to be free of all that stuff and fighting for nonsense that is nothing more than an animal relict of us. Stay up, do your work, done. No fighting for chimpglory, no feeling sad because of always loosing the fighting for chimpglory, no pressure to involve yourself in the chimpglory games... Many people that simply didnt fit with modern society, found a peaceful place there, where their work is accepted.

Quoting Karl Marx is now "bully tactics"?

As example by inventing laws, that allow employers to misuse their workcraft by allowing them to create working contracts that are not giving the worker the same benefit of his work as the employer. By inventing lies that the worker would be free to agree to this contracts, when there can be no free desicion as long as you have to be afraid of lacking basic living supplies. And inventing a police force and laws, that supports the employer when giving contracts that let the worker not benefit from his own work in the same amount, are protecting the employers unfair share with lethal power, while forbiding the worker to do the same.

Where is this place that you are talking about?

If you mean the US, that is total bullsh*t.

So there are laws in the US, that force employers to pay at least as much as is needed for minimum living standard, and if he doesnt the worker is allowed to take the money that the employer has stolen by force, and the police will not defend the employer and fight the worker that only wants to own what is his right and was stolen by the employer? Sorry, I have heard so often stories about people that need to work in three jobs, to afford minimum living standard, so I thought these laws I speak of, that wouldnt allow to pay workers under minimum standard, wouldnt exist. But ok, if they exist, I escuse myself.

You are living on The Planet of the Apes. 99 percent of the human race is NT. Get used to it.

ruveyn

If you are debating an anarchist with quotes describing state socialism, you are definitely using bully tactics. I can take in ideas I see fit from Marx and discard others like any other rational human being. I don't view him as someone who was always wrong or always right.

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A classless society is impossible.

Under Socialism, I think the rulers and bureaucrats are the upper class.

How? Bullying would be mocking you or calling you stupid or something to that effect, quoting someone who you think is irrelevant to the conversation doesn't exactly fit that description.

State socialism

Under communism the ruling class serves the working class so which class is higher?