Mercenaries / Paramilitary operatives with Asperger's

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16 Jun 2013, 8:27 pm

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But you have to understand, we have to be very careful about who we receive assignments from. If we're hired by like say, someone's who Middle Eastern and if people from that person's military, government, country or members of a militant / insurgent faction in that country are suspected / confirmed of supporting, helping those sorts of people who slaughter and bully innocent people, well then it's quite obvious that mercenaries that have Asperger's can't / won't accept contracts from those types of people who refuse to slaughter innocent people, be sadistic or racist due to their extensive and strict moral and ethical code which is derived, brought down from their Asperger's.


Lol, real mercs are not the A-Team. I also don't think people with Aspergers have magically better or more strict ethical standards. Real mercs just get govt. contracts and call it a day. I didn't know when you made this thread you were talking about Soldier of Fortune type of fantasy stuff. Everything's government contracts now. You're simply an "independent contractor." Much of it also has to do with intel gathering.

This is a real merc like you're talking about.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/magaz ... d=all&_r=0
He shot two people under suspicious circumstances in Pakistan. Pakistan wanted to try him for murder. US got him extradited here by strong arming Pakistan. The proper term is more "spy" but generally you work for the government and do all sorts of bad s**t. Only bad s**t.

Aspies work well for these jobs if you don't mind being sociopathic. I don't trust a government to have my back, though. I think in the government's case they'd much rather use someone with Aspergers as a fall guy or patsy due to our social ineptitude/"freakiness" or what have you.

Here's how REAL LIFE spys/mercs work. The Fowden NSA leaker told this story. There was a Swiss banking official. The US wanted access to some accounts. The US intel people got him drunk. Then called the Swiss police to get him in trouble for drunk driving. Then they came to his rescue if he agreed to help them in a "deal" to look at a few Swiss bank accounts.

This type of stuff, basically spying/etc, requires lots of cleverness and social skills. I have a friend who's able to do this well, who has some Aspie tendencies. For example, he worked for a restaurant and wanted intel on a competing restaurant. So he couldn't go in there, as they'd know he's an employee of the competing restaurant. So he hires an escort/hooker off Craigslist to go in there and eat and take a bunch of notes. She did that.

My friend even suggested for me, there was a particular person who I suspected more or less stole my car, or was behind stealing it. He recommended I find an escort off craigslist who was addicted to drugs to hang out with this person. Then he'd be with a bad girl and be addicted to drugs. Thus his life would be ruined. Call myself not by my real name, meet her somewhere and give the assignment, use a Tracfone, and thus it'd never get back to me. That's how real life intelligence work is. Use "disposable" people to accomplish your goals. In this case, escorts.

Look at the killing of the sniper Chris Kyle. VERY suspicious circumstances of his death. Now, you could say it was a vast CIA conspiracy. Maybe. But maybe it was just one employee who rather easily orchestrated it under similar circumstances of what I've described above?

So if you want to be a "disposable person" then be my guest. That's real merc work.

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Anyway, if you want sorta kinda merc work without being a shady intelligence worker (besides Blackwater/etc, which requires prior military experience,) there's always bodyguard and bail enforcement jobs. Bodyguard they generally want you to be a big strong powerlifter looking dude who's trained in weapon's use, and looking intimidating. Bail enforcement requires social skills, as you again, have to get intel on people who've jumped bail. Bail enforcement would be the only LEO job I'd feel comfortable doing, as at least I know the person is guilty of stealing the bail bondsman's insurance money.

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As far as morals or whatever. That's relative. Unless you have both sides of the story, you won't ever know who's right or wrong. In the Raymond Davis story for example, who's right or wrong? Pakistan or US? It'd be up to you to convince yourself.



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17 Jun 2013, 8:17 pm

Of course, we're not just some drunken, drug-induced guns for hire. You don't even have Asperger's, so you don't even know whether or not they have moral codes. And I can tell you, as a matter of fact, as an Aspie myself, me and other people with Asperger's do have extensive moral / ethical codes, that are even better than people who don't have any mental or physical disorders. Typically, nowadays, yes, most mercenaries do receive contracts from the U.S. government. But you have to understand, mercenaries can work for anyone. The only thing that they're interested in is money. It doesn't matter to them who they're hiring themselves out to or who hires them. I've heard of private military contractors that are being hired by industries as far away as the oil and gas sectors. And if they can work for anyone, they can certainly work for a multinational corporation, such as the company I'm gonna found once I graduate from college. And mercenaries with Asperger's certainly wouldn't / can't be psychotic, racist, slaughter / kill innocent civilians, or anti-religious or anything like that due to the symptoms of their disorder. They can be somewhat crazy though.

As for the disposable aspect of being a mercenary, I don't think that'll fly, because with the type, the amount and the level of training that we'll have access to, I don't think that anyone can beat us. Not even the military. Private security sounds nice though besides other types of work such as combat operations in Africa and the Middle East. You're right about one thing though. Besides being focused, adaptable and tolerant, both mentally and physically, we also have to be exceptionally physically fit and have prior special operations experience / training.

A. We don't have to investigate anything. We can simply pick whatever assignments that we choose / and / or that we feel comfortable with. Mercenaries with Asperger's also have to gather intelligence, trying to figure out who are the bad guys, who are the good guys, who are innocent people, and who is just a pain in the ass. After gathering intelligence / information, we have to consider the factors of the situation, the groups / individual(s) involved, the cause of the dispute / situation, how it can be resolved, what happened, when it happened, how it happened, why it happened and what the situation revolves around, make a decision and then act upon it.

2. If men with Asperger's do wish to become mercenaries after their discharge from Special Operations / Special Forces, then they have to be exceedingly clever, devious and ruthless to operate and survive in this type of world. After all, why engage in a gun-battle with Islamic militants or other types of enemy combatants when you can just call in a drone strike from a UAV equipped with air-to-surface missiles on enemy positions ?

3. As stated before in my response, intelligence is a critical part of being a contractor, as you can't just walk around without knowing, without having a clue as to what's out there. Still, why use binoculars to gather intelligence when you can use an Lockheed AC-130 with thermal / X-Ray vision among other types of vision / imaging to spy on the enemy from the air ?



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17 Jun 2013, 10:31 pm

I just got diagnosed with Aspergers like a month ago... again. I also have NVLD (I feel that's the main disorder.)

I hate this idea that people with Aspergers are all exceptionally superior to every other human and incapable of wrong. There's frankly tons of autistic/AS murderers around, it does not preclude to having super exceptional morality. If anything, due to lack of empathy, an AS person can "logic" their actions away. Hell, even Jeffrey Dahmer was diagnosed Aspergers.

Anyway, live in your mega l337 tactical super spec ops fantasy land.



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26 Jun 2013, 4:51 pm

I have often joked that I could be really good at that. Or as a hired assassin.
I can totally turn off emotions and make decisions based on facts only.
I only ever do that at home, though when I am alone, as I need some time to turn emotions and empathy back on. I was once in the emotionless-state in a social setting and I was a real a***hole!
So, I avoid doing it. It is a brilliant tool for studying, though! I retain much more.



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11 Jul 2013, 6:24 am

But there is another organization composed of classic autistics, high functioning autistics, mild autistics and Aspies as well as former child soldiers, street children, and orphans, as well as children that are no longer wanted or abandoned by their parents that is composed of mercenaries, paramilitary operatives, arms dealers and bounty hunters. This autistic paramilitary organization is referred to as Praetheon.
All recruit personnel of whatever skin color, nationality, ethnicity, race, or whatever language or culture that they come from will be from the ages of 1-6, all male and all with shaved heads but only the non clone autistics / Aspies do not have barcodes with their Personnel Service Numbers beneath them tattooed beneath their barcodes. As soon as they are deemed of age and they have passed the physical, mental and psychological tests and examinations, then they will begin training.
Training apparatus / outline will include but not limited to :

Training for Praetheonian recruit personnel to become desensitized to violence will include:

At age 12-14, recruits will be trained to do all of the following:

( Mass ) boilings

( Mass ) beheadings / decapitations

Bombings of both people and buildings.

( Mass ) skinnings

( Mass ) mutilations

( Mass ) dismemberment

( Mass ) executions via firing squad

(Mass ) Impalings

( Mass ) Burnings

Poisonings

Thrown into lava.

Electrocution.

Surgical operations via suicide bomber, involuntary, coerced, forced or otherwise.

Other execution methods apply such as acid baths, gas chambers, bodies being ripped apart by circular saws and chainsaws.

Note: All of the above applies for street gang members, political and religious extremists and rebel militias. Ambushes of street gang members, KKK, Anti-Semitism, white nationalists, white supremacists, religious extremists / militants / insurgents, rebel militias and neo-Nazis and any other type / sort of hate group, organization or cause that the SPLC or ADL designates as offensive. They also apply for ALL Anti-Semitic / white nationalist / white supremacists, Neo-Nazi, white power, Christian Identity, Radical Tradionalist Catholic groups, black supremacist, Anti-Muslim / Anti-Islam and Neo-Confederate groups / organizations / causes not just in the United States but on / in other countries as well.

All Praetheonian recruit personnel will become proficient in a very wide, large and very expansive variety of a very large amount of very diverse and different types of weapons including

Handguns ( Semi-automatic, selective fire and fully automatic. )

Submachine guns.

Assault rifles / carbines.

Automatic rifles.

Sniper rifles ( Non-bolt action )

Shotguns.

Heavy / Light / Medium machine guns.

Missile / Grenade / Rocket launchers

Grenades.

Melee weapons:

Tomahawk

Hatchet

OKC-35 Bayonet

KA-BAR Knife

Gerber Mark 2

Machete

Garrote

Kukri knives

Short swords

Pointed weapons :

Bows and arrows

Blowguns

Dartguns

Modern cross-bows

Compound bows

Mini / Throwing knives

Physical exercises / training:

Push-ups

Pull-ups

Sit-ups

Chin-ups

Crunches

Marches

Runs

Jogs

Walks

Hand-to-Hand-Combat training:

Krav Maga

Judo

Jujitsu

Kickboxing

Aikido

Pankration

Hapkido

Bladed weapons training : Kali

Eskrima

Specialized, more extensive physical / military training for Praetheonian non-clone personnel, autistic or otherwise :

Parkour

Freerunning

Gymnastics

Acrobatics

Track and field

Cross-country

Wilderness / survivalist training

Hotwiring

Tracking

Improvised communications

Imprisonment / captivital / detention escape ( Picking / shedding handcuffs and other types of physical restraints and escaping from military / police custody / captivity and / or imprisonment )

Evasive / offensive / defensive / tactical driving

Street warfare

Night fighting

Cyber-warfare

Psychological warfare

Electronic warfare

Covert channels

Military Free Fall parachuting

Combat and commercial, SCUBA and closed circuit diving,

Dark entry operations ( Picking and otherwise passing locks)

SERE Training

Battle EMS Medical training

Improvised explosive devices

Demolitions

Explosives

Proficiency / Fluency in foreign dialects and languages

Nuclear, chemical, radiological and biological weapons training, management and operation, arming and disarming.



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12 Jul 2013, 4:45 am

Crikey. I think I played this game on PS3. The dictator was an absolute sod to beat at the end. Final cut scenes were cool though.



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14 Jul 2013, 12:09 am

This ain't no goddamn videogame. This is real life. This is serious. Stop your irritating screwing around ! Keep your body and your mind in the game or get out, Spooky !



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19 Jul 2013, 6:00 am

A vast amount of this is in the Green Beret handbook on counter insurgency warfare. Well done on your marvellous use of Ebay. A lot of it isn't though. In fact, I'd say a lot of that last post is firmly rooted in a total looney tunes fantasy land.

Incidentally Blackwater aren't called that any more, last I heard they'd changed the name to Academi. Also, PMC's don't generally work for governments, they work for the highest bidder and work in favour of the employers interests.

Oh, and I'll get out when I feel like it pal.... You're not the boss of me :P



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21 Jul 2013, 1:21 am

I got offered PMC work right out of gunsmithing school; basically a ton of money to fix broken guns in Iraq. I probably should have done it, it was a lot of money and the Green Zone wasn't that dangerous, but at the time it didn't seem like the best idea, and my family and then girlfriend were pretty dead set against it.

I think the OP may be in for a rude awakening about the reality of mercenary work, the consensus from the people I've known who've done it make it sound an awful lot like frat boys with guns in foreign countries, which doesn't sound particularly appealing or Aspie friendly. The pay can be very good though.


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25 Jul 2013, 2:18 pm

Maybe the French Foreign Legion. I heard they take anyone, but it's hard to make it through.



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27 Jul 2013, 9:12 pm

I had the idea of some autistic liberation army building up such a insurgency...but that is in 'science fiction zone for now. :lol:


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28 Jul 2013, 1:10 am

Cut the crap, Warzie. This isn't some damn video game. This is real life. This is serious. Plus, PMC'S with Asperger's don't have any beliefs. They're only interested in making money.



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28 Jul 2013, 9:25 pm

On second thought, the FFL isn't really a mercenary group.



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29 Jul 2013, 11:32 am

Minorbin wrote:
On second thought, the FFL isn't really a mercenary group.


Nah, they're part of the French Military. Hard as nails, too. Mate of mine left the Parachute regt and joined the Legion. He was a scary big sod BEFORE he went, when he came back he was terrifying. Still a nice bloke, but his soldiering skills were off the charts. I wouldn't want to mess with those guys, seriously....



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29 Jul 2013, 1:40 pm

Are you at it again? You should consider writing novels about mercenaries or video games about them, not trying to become one...



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29 Jul 2013, 1:49 pm

What is it with these great big long posts?


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