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08 Aug 2013, 9:58 pm

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As for the minorities voting democratic part. I think that could be in part remedied if conservatives made more of an effort to promote their ideas to minorities and show them how it would benefit them.

but conservatives, by and large, have [at best] indifference, or [at worst] outright antipathy towards anybody not wealthy and light-skinned like themselves. black conservatives like Clarence Thomas [who seem to hate the bulk of other colored folk] as well as conservative working-class folk who consistently vote against their own best self interest, are just one of life's mysteries. :scratch:



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09 Aug 2013, 4:06 am

I voted Democrat, and have been a liberal, long before I was ever diagnosed with Asperger's. I think one reason why I shun conservatives is because growing up, I was always the target of jocks and bullies, always the odd man out, and so I've always sympathized with those who didn't have enough money or power, or who were of the wrong color. Conservatives seemingly have taken up the role of the bullying the little guy who I identify with the most.

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09 Aug 2013, 4:17 am

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They generally attempt to put a financial value on everything.
Trees = money,
Land = money,
Mineral or energy resources = money.
Wild plants and animals - Is there a market to domesticate them, sell their body parts or eat them? If the answer is 'NO' then tough sh*t.


Sure, conservatives should be more like this. :roll:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUDEmMjC-c[/youtube]


Those guys really touched me. I'm gonna avoid eating salads for a while and will move to steaks and burguers. I'd feel guilty hurting plants. :mrgreen:

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By the way, with regard to the main topic, I don't dislike conservative, as long as they're not fundamentalists.

And I think they're some good points in the left economic theory from the utilitarian point of view. The main poblem with the left is that it's full of liberals, and it's kind of difficult to get anything that makes some sense from them...


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09 Aug 2013, 4:38 am

I think the meaning of conservative in an political oppinion, is a wrong use of the words. So I had more problems in life with conservative people, because of them having more problems with acceptings things, people and behavings, that are outside of the norm. But that isnt related automatic to political oppinions. So there are rather conservative socialists, as there are rather conservative, rightwingers, as there are rather conservative conservatives ... Voting conservative party must not mean "being" conservative in the way of thoughts.



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09 Aug 2013, 7:51 am

Schneekugel wrote:
I think the meaning of conservative in an political oppinion, is a wrong use of the words. So I had more problems in life with conservative people, because of them having more problems with acceptings things, people and behavings, that are outside of the norm. But that isnt related automatic to political oppinions. So there are rather conservative socialists, as there are rather conservative, rightwingers, as there are rather conservative conservatives ... Voting conservative party must not mean "being" conservative in the way of thoughts.


Well spoken. Conservative politics used to have a full sprectrum of ideology, with the common ground being "fiscal" conservatism. It has been co-opted in more recent times to mean "morally" conservative and "size of government" conservative (which I don't understand since most political "conservatives" these days demand an ever-increasing military might).

Labelling people as liberal or conservative just seems like an exclusion of the majority of the population who fall somewhere in between.


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09 Aug 2013, 8:37 am

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I don't know too much about the political preferences of individuals on the spectrum, but do aspies generally dislike or don't trust conservatives,


The impression I have gotten reading this sub-forum would suggest the answer to this question is yes. Of course presuming that the active membership basis of the wrong planet forum is representative for people on the spectrum.

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They generally attempt to put a financial value on everything.


It where liberals that reduced things to the sphere of economics. Unless you want to call classical/economic liberals conservative.



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09 Aug 2013, 10:14 am

Judging by the long standing pattern of intellectual abuse (aka "winning") perpetrated against the conservative members of this sub section, I would say they aren't too popular with aspies.


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09 Aug 2013, 10:21 am

Sigbold wrote:
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They generally attempt to put a financial value on everything.

It where liberals that reduced things to the sphere of economics. Unless you want to call classical/economic liberals conservative.

Now where did my context go, :scratch: have you seen it? 8O



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09 Aug 2013, 11:54 am

Posting on this forum for some years now, I don't believe that there is any real difference between people on the spectrum and aren't when it comes to politics. PPR is an interesting board since it's so diverse, a lot of people come and go.



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09 Aug 2013, 1:44 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I voted Democrat, and have been a liberal, long before I was ever diagnosed with Asperger's. I think one reason why I shun conservatives is because growing up, I was always the target of jocks and bullies, always the odd man out, and so I've always sympathized with those who didn't have enough money or power, or who were of the wrong color. Conservatives seemingly have taken up the role of the bullying the little guy who I identify with the most.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The last major party candidate I voted for was Barry Goldwater. Ever since he was slandered and demonized by the Democrats, and the Republicans went south I have not voted for another major party candidate. In the 1960 election I voted for JFK because I wanted to put a stake through the heart of the anti-Catholic nonsense.

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09 Aug 2013, 8:12 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I voted Democrat, and have been a liberal, long before I was ever diagnosed with Asperger's. I think one reason why I shun conservatives is because growing up, I was always the target of jocks and bullies, always the odd man out, and so I've always sympathized with those who didn't have enough money or power, or who were of the wrong color. Conservatives seemingly have taken up the role of the bullying the little guy who I identify with the most.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The last major party candidate I voted for was Barry Goldwater. Ever since he was slandered and demonized by the Democrats, and the Republicans went south I have not voted for another major party candidate. In the 1960 election I voted for JFK because I wanted to put a stake through the heart of the anti-Catholic nonsense.

ruveyn


Was that the only reason for your vote for Kennedy?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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09 Aug 2013, 8:16 pm

if Nixon had won in '60, I wonder if he coulda better gotten away with something like Watergate back then?



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09 Aug 2013, 8:16 pm

Greb wrote:
Raptor wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
They generally attempt to put a financial value on everything.
Trees = money,
Land = money,
Mineral or energy resources = money.
Wild plants and animals - Is there a market to domesticate them, sell their body parts or eat them? If the answer is 'NO' then tough sh*t.


Sure, conservatives should be more like this. :roll:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUDEmMjC-c[/youtube]

Those guys really touched me. I'm gonna avoid eating salads for a while and will move to steaks and burguers. I'd feel guilty hurting plants. :mrgreen:


Every time I see this I want to fire up my chainsaw and cut a swath through the woods behind my house. :twisted:


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09 Aug 2013, 8:30 pm

I doubt there's any political bias amongst spergs, left or right, that stands out from the general intelligent populace. Although I do my bit in swinging us leftwards.



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09 Aug 2013, 8:33 pm

if only righties would stop trying to disenfranchise me and mine at every turn, I would have nothing against them.