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30 Dec 2015, 11:14 am

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What a bunch of self-hating bollocks this is. Many of the problems faced by the autistic comminity can be resolved by an autistic community that looks out for themselves and each other. They have not and will not be resolved by 'benevolent' neurotypicals.


Oh, absolutely; there is definitely a big difference between neurotypicals and autistic individuals.

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As for high-functioning Aspies I would not support a cure. Even though Aspies often have poor social skills, and their executive functioning and theory of mind isn't the greatest, they're capable of living on their own someday and contributing to society. I think the "cure" for some Aspies would be talking adderal to improve focus and attention.


Half the problem is that society is overrun by salesmen, thieves, liars and cowards—and anyone who doesn't immediately compete with this standard is considered a "chaotic mongerer". They will be prescribed treatments and written about as a pariah, even if they are are prodigious; in fact, their prodigious skills will commonly be looked upon as "something that could one day be donated in service to someone who could never accomplish anywhere near the same thing but loves money [aka a salesmen]".

So, as autistic individuals are lied to, raped, used, exploited, subjected to studies, and viewed as adults with low emotional evolution—all of their rights are essentially stripped away.

This idea that capitalist self-serving rivalry is somehow the epitome of "independence and socialization" is already a problem; most major achievements in humankind have been achieved by some autistic individual on the spectrum making a breakthrough. Trillions of dollars are taken away from them and given to a common populace of untalented, wasteful small-talkers & pigs who are "deeply concerned about our ability to see the truth, speak it clearly, and create things in powerful ways"—mainly because it threatens their ability to indulge themselves.

Meanwhile, autistic individuals are constantly being asked how they should be modified or handled, when in reality half of them should be running the world; ah, but yes—it is we who are the chaotic ones not contributing to society. When our free-loving nature and brilliant ideas, our philosophies and language, our bodies are taken from us by sexual predators—surely it is the autistic individual who is the chaotic rogue. No, we're the victims of a populace of thieves who parade their greed around in Forbes magazine as social & economic success—while it is impossible for us to be ourselves, be appreciated, be rewarded, or compensated.

So, yea—I suppose when you steal everything God gave us away from us, we're nothing but pesky chaotic drones in your dance of child-raping, money-hungering titans; but just know, I see clearly—and many others also see clearly. Resources have been stolen & kept in the reservoirs of imbeciles and untalented men who employ hundreds of thousands of people to accomplish what one or several autistic individuals could do. Ah, but hopefully—yes, hopefully—one day us "ret*ds" who commonly create timeless works of art that reap billions of dollar & jumpstart entire industries when they're taken from us because we're desperate for a job from you thieves—will learn how to stop being such a waste of space for you livestock, and so incompetent in our social skills.

I guess if we knew how to manipulate, exploit, and steal money and run our own businesses that we created before someone else forces us into their service—nature wouldn't be so disgusted by our revolting lack of contribution. *rolls eyes*

You're indoctrinated; your media is overrun by untalented, glorified lying prostitutes (ah, but you call them "artists" and "models" … RIIIGHT as long as you neurotypicals say so, it MUST be true because you're the majority!! !). Your "news" channels are garbage. Your night life is drinking & hooking up. Your daytime is nose-to-the-grind 9-5s and underpaid enslavement where the workers are subservient to unethical CEOs & swindlers ("managers" you call them … AKA people who usually just report information & make orders or schedules on time with no talent). Your churches are commonly run by greedy businessmen who don't even know Christ or the origins of their spiritual teachings. Your democracy is a revolving cast of bribed actors for international bankers. Your mass marketing & beauty standards cause women to have bulimia and get nose jobs, sometimes at the age of 12; the rest just hate themselves and whore around calling it "dating". We're still running on gas powered vehicles.

SOOMEDAAY— SOME - DAY — we'll contribute and pay our dues for selfishly existing. Luckily for you, your world of illusions pretending that time-keeping is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch a difficult task that because an aspy cannot focus for hours upon hours doing menial labor for pennies, it must be a reflection of a good thing those "rare" & "amazing time keepers" have figured with their desperately difficult tasks of performing basic common-sensible unskilled duties aligning actions to a common clocking device—willing to tell us what to do, and when to do it for enormously unmerited amounts of cash … Gosh, where would we be? No, your system isn't corrupt … And withholding riches from us because we are incapable of fighting for due credit isn't exploitating the gifted disabled; indeed, we are simply not contributing … All that power, going over to someone who didn't suffer the disabilities to get there … Has a watch on their wrist. You big heroes.

Luckily your post gave no credence or credit to anything about those with autism and just made us appear to be a difficult group of outcasts, losers, and rebels.



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30 Dec 2015, 12:11 pm

Codyrules37 wrote:
Now as for a cure, I woudn't support it if it were used on high-functioning kids. I think most people in Autism Speaks refer to low-functioning kids on the spectrum when they're talking about a cure. For instance, imagine a non-verbal autistic kid who is smart but since because he/she cannot use language, they can not live up to their full potential in terms of intelligence. You truly are handicapped if you don't have access to language. If there were a cure so you could he/she could use language, then that would be beneficial.


As for high-functioning Aspies I would not support a cure. Even though Aspies often have poor social skills, and their executive functioning and theory of mind isn't the greatest, they're capable of living on their own someday and contributing to society. I think the "cure" for some Aspies would be talking adderal to improve focus and attention.


I know this is a necrobumped thread from 2013 but there is so much wrong here.
I am not a kid but due to tongue cancer I am non verbal now but can certainly use the language. While bieng non verbal is a recent development for me many mute people can use the language well. There are autistic advocates that are non verbal, according to this post Stephen Hawking is not living up to his full potential.

These wrong assumptions are why the whole Aspie supremicism idea that only "high functioning" Aspie people like themselves do not need a cure but a cure is a good thing for those other "low functioning Autistics" is wrong.

It is telling the the poster supported Autism Speaks. They have sucessfully used divide and conquer techniques on the autistic community. This technique has convinced many parents that autistics because they can write can give no useful advice to thier kids who have "real autism". It has had a role in convincing many autistics that Autism Rights and Neurodiversity movements are made up of only people who think Autism is only a gift, therefore is harmful to people like themselves who struggle. This technique has convinced many autistics to assume that most people that call themselves Aspies do that because they are supremacist/elitist, want excuses etc thus turning what was a positive into a negative.

Aspie Supremiscists often dispise Autism Speaks but Autism Speaks has used them well to do great harm. But these "geniuses" allowed it to happen because in some important ways thier thinking is alike.


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02 Jan 2016, 4:40 pm

antago wrote:
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I'll be honest, I had a little trouble following a lot of what you wrote because it seemed to be heavy with sarcasm and that doesn't come across well in text. That said, I agree with the gist of it; the only reason we're considered "disabled" is because we live in a society that is profoundly sick and we're more or less immune.

Edit: Well, okay, I'll concede that sensory processing issues, being nonverbal, etc. are disabilities for those who have them. I meant more along the lines of lacking the "normal" social wiring.

Also I'm not sure about others, but my mind works best when unconstrained. It's a very wild and untamed thing, and as such being just another cog in the machine is really quite a waste of what I have... so in some sense I am very chaotic, but it's a constructive, creative chaos, not a disruptive or destructive one.



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04 Jan 2016, 8:43 pm

ProbablyOverthinkingThisUsername wrote:
antago wrote:
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I'll be honest, I had a little trouble following a lot of what you wrote because it seemed to be heavy with sarcasm and that doesn't come across well in text. That said, I agree with the gist of it; the only reason we're considered "disabled" is because we live in a society that is profoundly sick and we're more or less immune.


I'll be honest the original post was so disgustingly exempt of giving any justice to autism that I lost a lot of control of bothering to edit myself; that said, I greatly enjoy your allusion to society being profoundly sick and we are immune. That actually makes 100% sense. We should try to find a cure for neurotypicals.



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04 Jan 2016, 9:01 pm

I don't know if they're *that* extreme (yet), but there could be some individuals in A$ sick enough to think that. After all, there was a mother who said she wanted to commit a murder-suicide on her daughter by driving off a bridge, which she said in front of her daughter, and A$ said that it was okay to feel that way. If she had said she wanted to murder her NT son, how would people have reacted then?? In fact, she said her son was the reason she didn't do it.

I'm telling you though, forcing anyone to act "less Autistic", punishing them when they do, using what they call "therapy" when any sane person who saw it being done to an NT would cal it "abuse", or using "cures" that poison and kill Autistic people, if that's not evil I don't what is.

I definitely will not be "Lighting It Up Blue", and I'm not ashamed to beg others not to do the same. And that's sad, because I really like blue lights. I once even used only blue lights on my Christmas tree.



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05 Jan 2016, 3:51 pm

antago wrote:
ProbablyOverthinkingThisUsername wrote:
antago wrote:
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I'll be honest, I had a little trouble following a lot of what you wrote because it seemed to be heavy with sarcasm and that doesn't come across well in text. That said, I agree with the gist of it; the only reason we're considered "disabled" is because we live in a society that is profoundly sick and we're more or less immune.


I'll be honest the original post was so disgustingly exempt of giving any justice to autism that I lost a lot of control of bothering to edit myself; that said, I greatly enjoy your allusion to society being profoundly sick and we are immune. That actually makes 100% sense. We should try to find a cure for neurotypicals.

Now wouldn't that be a huge economical market just waiting for someone to exploit! :D



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06 Jan 2016, 10:16 pm

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Reflectie wrote:
antago wrote:
ProbablyOverthinkingThisUsername wrote:
antago wrote:
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I'll be honest, I had a little trouble following a lot of what you wrote because it seemed to be heavy with sarcasm and that doesn't come across well in text. That said, I agree with the gist of it; the only reason we're considered "disabled" is because we live in a society that is profoundly sick and we're more or less immune.


I'll be honest the original post was so disgustingly exempt of giving any justice to autism that I lost a lot of control of bothering to edit myself; that said, I greatly enjoy your allusion to society being profoundly sick and we are immune. That actually makes 100% sense. We should try to find a cure for neurotypicals.

Now wouldn't that be a huge economical market just waiting for someone to exploit! :D


Well, we can't really get away with discussing this here, but if you want to humor yourself come over to my place AutisticProdigy.com and I'll let you get away with it :-)



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07 Jan 2016, 9:13 am

antago wrote:
Well, we can't really get away with discussing this here, but if you want to humor yourself come over to my place AutisticProdigy.com and I'll let you get away with it :-)

So what's this website about?



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07 Jan 2016, 9:40 am

Reflectie wrote:
antago wrote:
Well, we can't really get away with discussing this here, but if you want to humor yourself come over to my place AutisticProdigy.com and I'll let you get away with it :-)

So what's this website about?


Another safe haven for autists, but to discuss quirky ideas, concepts, philosophies, and share resources to enhance their deeper inner thoughts & abilities rather than simply a generic bulletin board.



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09 Jan 2016, 7:56 am

another autism speaks and genicide post,how original


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