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You have obviously never owned a i/Power/MacBook, have you?

If you want to open up a regular notebook to say, replace or upgrade the WiFi card, or install a new HDD, this is usually an easy thing to do, with a set of jewelers screwdrivers.

Also, if you lose your 'Line Wart' PSU, it's replaceable easily enough with a Generic that you can buy at your local electronics mega outlet.

With an Apple notebook, to upgrade a drive, you need to pull the entire clamshell apart due to the fact that there is no easy access to the drive. This is complicated further by the fact that Apple does not use regular philips, or standard slotted screws, but uses Torx and other more proprietary drivers instead.

Also, Apple 'Line Wart' PSU's also have proprietary interconnects, which in the case of loss you have to either get one from an Apple Store, a Mac Dealer, or send away to get one directly from Apple.

Apples are like Mercedes Benz cars. They are beautifully engineered, and the Industrial design is nice, but if you want to modify you're out of luck. If something fails, you cannot work on it yourself, you have to take it to a specialist for that brand, or to a dealership to get it fixed, and you pay a premium for the parts and service.

Actually, the rust protection on some cars from Mercedes Benz is really crappy--and the mechanics aren't that reliable either. However, their designs tend to age fairly well. Compare the W210 to other 1990s cars, for example.

Um, I'm typing this a MacBook, and I have replaced hard drives many times. Obviously it is you who has never owned one.

I can swap out the hard drive and the RAM in my MacBook in less then three minutes. You wish it was that easy on a PC laptop.

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the name says it al.

I'm Both Mac and PC. But Mostly a PC. But here's my story, When I was 9, I told my mother that I want a Computer with Windows XP, and then we went to the place where they're giving away refubished Computers, But When my mother told me that there is no Windows XP Computers but a Mac, which I looked at the Lexmark's Instructions Manual, I was freaked out over the Mac where I thought the Taskbar was on the top, but I told my mother, I will give it a try, but when I did, I started liking it. And I found out the taskbar on the top of the computer was actually, has, File, Edit, View, Special, Help. Which it ran Mac OS 9 and the Model was Power Macintosh 6100. Which I thought all Macs are like iMac G3, but it's not, because there is alot of different Models, Colors, and Designs. The Power Macintosh 6100 was a beige box computer. I was having fun on Mac OS 9 until I saw Mac OS X, which I told my mother that I want Mac OS X, but few Months later, my brother broke it, and I was upset. 6 years later, I bought a eMac G4, which it has Mac OS X 10.3 Panther, but I upgraded to 10.4.11 Tiger. I was having fun for few months, until I decided to upgrade my Mac parts so I can Install Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, but the upgrading had failed and broke. 2 years later, I finally bought a Macbook 2006 Model, because a lot of Applications only supports Intel, But Not PowerPC G4. And so, I decided to upgrade into a new Version.

Meanwhile when I was 15 1/2 years old, I got my First PC (Windows) that I got for myself, and I enjoyed it, but it was a little bit slow. A year later, I decided to build a Custom Desktop Computer. But it was really fast. which I cannot play games on the older computer, which I was mad. But with this Custom Built Computer, I can play any games as I could.

But I missed my Mac.

Comparision

Mac OS X has no viruses at all, and you'll never get one.

In Windows, You can customized your specs all by yourself

on a Mac, It's easy to plug In just 3 cords, while Windows, you have to plug 5 or 6 more cords, and it can be messy.

Mac has a lot of Insanely Great Apps (like iLife, iWork and iTunes)

While Windows doesn't.

Windows Can take longer to boot, while the Mac can take faster to boot.

Windows can slow down your computer (unless you have a fast performance Computer, that can run 10-20 apps at the time) While Mac Doesn't.

Someone who got a bad experience with a Mac.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120212022914/http://byuu.org/articles/apple

Pretty much any component you can find in a Mac, you can find in a Dell, IBM or HP computer as well; the notion that "Apple hardware is garbage" therefore falls flat. Even the OS is pretty much FreeBSD with a proprietary GUI. Just for the sake of being the Devil's advocate: A Mac is usually more robust than an "average" laptop, and one of the reason why you pay extra for it, is that the chassis is made by aluminium extrusion rather than aluminium casting. I don't see why laptops have to last that long when they're outdated after three years, though...

You have to use the WayBackMachine to go back five years to find someone who has had a bad experience with a Mac? That says it all.

Anyways the guy is an idiot. First Apple doesn't make RAM or hard drives. Thats third party hardware that has nothing to do with Apple. And how inconsiderate of Apple to include an adaptor. They should know that some fool will buy their own adaptor.

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My MacBook is five years old and not outdated, in my opinion. I'm pretty sure I can do anything with it, that I could do with a brand new Mac. It doesn't have that fancy aluminum casting, but it still does everything I need to do.

My 11 year old PowerMac G5 is only outdated in that it is no longer supported. But it still runs older software just as good as the day I got it, and will continue probably for the rest of my life. I know other people who still use Macs that are 10 plus years old. Every Mac I have ever owned had a useful live well longer then three years.

Just because your laptop is outdated in three years, doesn't mean everybody's is.

I didn't search for it, as I already knew that article, which is two years old, not five. Also, this guy is not a idiot, he programmed the most accurate snes emulator there is, so he know a lot about computers. If Apple don't make RAM or hard drives (The article do mention that the hard drive have been made by Toshiba.) then they should install good third party hardware, which they didn't do in this case. The cooling was inadequate and failed the system, another bad point for Apple. Overall this show that Apple products are no better that competitor products and are overpriced.

What games can a five year old Mac run? A 2008/2009 laptop will struggle to run advanced graphical applications (eg. 3DS Max 2014) and open source programming tools (Eclipse IDE and MySQL are good examples) as well. The fact that office tools and web browsers still run on a computer, is due to the fact that FreeBSD and Windows NT is optimized to run on legacy hardware.

Sorry you are right. It is from two years ago. He was talking about the computer he bought in 2008. But he is still an idiot. Anyone who buys an adaptor and then blames the manufacture for including one in the package, is an idiot.

Thats like buying tires for a car, then buying the car, then blaming the manufacture for including tires with the car. Damn Toyota. Selling me a car with tires on it. I already had the tires. I just wanted the car. Thats the last time I'm buying a Toyota.

If you can't see how totally ridicules that is, I don't know what to say.

He had no valid argument against Apple in that post.

I dono. Plants vs. Zombies, stuff like that. More games then I need. If I was a gamer I probably wouldn't use any laptop, Mac or PC.

As a company Apple is greedy and totalitarian, and the BS 'branding' they do to try and convince consumers that they aren't reveals their utter contempt for their own customers.

Lets tear this one apart, shall we?



Sorry, but if I go to Best Buy to buy a blu-ray player, know that it needs an HDMI cable, buy the cable as well, and then find out that the player comes with an HDMI cable - I'm going to either write it off as a loss and keep the cable around for when I need it, or I'll return it. Complaining that the store sold you something you asked for but didn't need, and are too lazy to rectify is nothing other than your own damn fault.



Drives die sometimes. That's a fact of life. Where were your backups?



Or, you know, you could have taken it to an Apple store or sent it back to the manufacturer and they would have fixed it for you for free.

And oh by-the-way, the new mini's open from the bottom without any screws, or any other tools.



Yeah, Hitachi drives are crap - that's why Apple doesn't use them anymore. That's about the only valid point in this whole diatribe.



Again, the machine was obviously still in warranty, so I don't really give a crap if you decided to spend money on a new drive when you didn't have to.



Uhh, the EFI on the system enables the eject button on the keyboard to work. 10 minutes worth of googling could have gotten you the answer.



Hynix is one of 3 direct manufacturers of DRAM - their chips are found in nearly everything from Macbooks, to IBM and HP servers, to multi-million dollar network appliances. I would hardly call them "generic s**t".



So, that would mean if you bought the 3-year warranty, both of your issues would have been fixed, for free, by Apple - but you decided that you wanted to fix it yourself, and ended up breaking it. And now it's Apple's fault?

If I decide to fix the brakes in my car myself and the rear axle falls out, is that Ford's fault?