Does Pope Francis kick ass?
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Pope F on zealots and fundies:
www.liberalamerica.org/2013/10/25/pope- ... kicks-ass/
On social justice:
“None of us can think we are exempt from concern for the poor and for social justice.” And in case anyone misses the point, after a critique of the “idolatry of money” and an “economy of exclusion,” the Pope says: “The Pope loves everyone, rich and poor alike, but he is obliged in the name of Christ to remind all that the rich must help, respect and promote the poor. I exhort you to generous solidarity and a return of economics and finance to an ethical approach which favors human beings.”
What’s more, this does not mean simply caring for the poor, it means addressing the structures that keep them poor: “The need to resolve the structural causes of poverty cannot be delayed.”
http://www.religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/ ... ew-vision/
I would imagine this perplexes and pisses off extremists on the right and left... As far as I'm concerned, that's good.
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"Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape."
Trickle-down theories of economics were not proved, involved a "crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power" and were likely to lead to violence rather than wealth, he argues, urging politicians to carry out ethics-based financial reform. "Money must serve, not rule!"
"Frequently, we act as arbiters of grace rather than its facilitators. But the church is not a tollhouse; it is the house of the Father, where there is a place for everyone, with all their problems."
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Worse than the previous one? Care to explain how?
I think he seems like a pretty good man. It seems like you're letting your hatred of the Catholic church distort your view. I'm not religious, and I don't like the church, but I think there are still some good people in it.
The man is refusing all extra benefits that being the Pope carries, except for the power.
I approve of what he's saying publicly - though there are some doctrines that he can't turn around at all without being thrown out of office, including the stances on birth control and abortion. He's been firing people left and right for being stupid or immoral.
I'd like to see if he puts his words into action over the next several years, though...
This is the same Pope who said earlier that atheists can still go to heaven as atheists. This is way absurd even for Catholicism. Comes off as very insincere.
I hate the Catholic church, but I also hate people like him even more.
You remind me of the Life cereal kid Mikey,you hate everything.
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This is the same Pope who said earlier that atheists can still go to heaven as atheists. This is way absurd even for Catholicism. Comes off as very insincere.
I hate the Catholic church, but I also hate people like him even more.
That is actually a serious and protracted theological dispute within Catholicism, that of the old doctrine of "no salvation outside the church", or Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.
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This is the same Pope who said earlier that atheists can still go to heaven as atheists. This is way absurd even for Catholicism. Comes off as very insincere.
I hate the Catholic church, but I also hate people like him even more.
What he actually said was that it was not his place to judge atheists, not that they are getting some sort of free pass into heaven. Most of what he is about is putting a focus on helping the poor and unfortunate (as Christ taught) rather than squabble about things he considers much less important (which the Catholic church has historically done). I dislike the Catholic church (and most organized religion in general), but I think this guy is the bee's knees.
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"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently" -Nietzsche
This is the same Pope who said earlier that atheists can still go to heaven as atheists. This is way absurd even for Catholicism. Comes off as very insincere.
I hate the Catholic church, but I also hate people like him even more.
What he actually said was that it was not his place to judge atheists, not that they are getting some sort of free pass into heaven.
Paraphrasing what he said, he said that if atheists follow their conscience, then they are doing good in God's eyes. This is an implication that they can be saved as well.
Wait for his actions first, and then admire him. He is still a politician at the end of the day, and a very sneaky one at that.
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