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13 Feb 2014, 4:16 am

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There are people on this forum who will claim that asexuality (i.e. *no* sex drive) is a symptom of ASD ... neither is true for the majority of people on the spectrum.

Interesting. I am sure those people are probably sincere if they say they are asexual; but surely they are the minority?

I did read somewhere that most people with Autism are overly sensitive to everything and can be easily overwhelmed by sensory input, emotions, or (in the case of loving sex as opposed to casual sex) the interaction of both; so in general, people with Autism either love sex or hate it.

All I feel comfortable saying in the public part of the WP forums is that unless I am really depressed, I want sex on average on at least five days per week; whether that counts as "high" and by whose definition, I don't know.


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13 Feb 2014, 5:47 am

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I will say only that I'm sorry this has upset you; in not wishing something on myself I was not referring to the menopause, but the lack of a sex drive; not judgement, sorrow that you (or anyone else) has reason to feel that way, especially the reasons you have given, which having seen them, makes your position understandable; I assumed you would see it and didn't quote you directly due to not wanting to answer it in full precisely because of the likely misunderstandings that might occur. I don't judge you, it's your life.


Ok explanation accepted. In all fairness I am a little on the tetchy side tonight for one reason or another and I may have misread the intention of your post.

Thanks, I hoped you'd understand. I like to think that in general terms, we'd all feel sympathy for somebody who felt their problems were so severe that they had to give up their dreams.

I only knew a fraction of your back-story, from other posts you have made on WP; but now you have told us about the rest, I hope I speak for everybody in saying I feel really sorry that you have experienced all those horrible things; nobody should have to go through any of that.

More generally, unlike NTs who at least live on what for them is the "right planet", giving up on our dreams is something that we as Aspies have all had to do now and then :(


Indeed...dreams are hard things to part with, or at least they have been for me.

I do tend to see the word pity and over react a little these days after receiving emails from people on other websites saying things like "Everyone pities you but no one wants to be with you", which I find hurtful.

Firstly how can they speak for everyone and secondly how do they know that no one wants to be with me? People have wanted to be with me but there was little compatibility. The last person I broke up with I broke up with them because they wanted to hold drugs parties in my house/garden with their mates. As someone who does not use drugs this is not acceptable to me. If they want to smoke cannabis at a friends house there is nothing I can do about that but I do not wish to be exposed to it myself and do not want people drinking alcohol and smoking drugs either in my property or outside of it. I rent, I dread to think what the landlord would think anyway.

Over the years because of my social difficulties and because of things that have happened to me I have become wary. I outline the things that have happened not because I still become emotional over them but because they add up to explain why I think they way I do in some respects. In fact I'd rather leave the events themselves in the past as i fail to see why they should govern my future. But that does not make it any easier to find compatible souls to spend time with.

A young man asked me out whilst I was walking down the street a few weeks ago. He gave me his number but I am dubious as I have no idea how accepting he is going to be of my quirks and whether or not he is another unstable one. Being with the unstable ones has worn me down as they are hard to cope with or predict. I am socially inept at reading people in certain ways which leaves me wide open to bullies and I have indeed endured a life time of bullying in one way or another.

That and I get sick of the games people play...people back stab and manipulate and I am very tired (depressed and angry at the world as well). I don't want game playing, I wanted someone who I enjoy spending time with. I wanted someone whom I could enjoy intimacy with, someone whom I could also spend time visiting museums with, walking around Britain's coastal regions with (I want to walk as much of the length of Britain's coast line as I can and then some of it's inland walks as well, it is why I started collecting OS maps but I only have a few for Norfolk thus far) and perhaps even a night at the theatre and so on. Exploring our fascinations together but without all the messing around that seems to come with having a relationship with the majority of people.

Perhaps I am too idealistic and I have to consider if my dream is out of reach for that reason alone.

The world expects me to hate myself but what I see was an exceptionally bright child who, whilst being idealistic and wanting to help people, was not too great at the social stuff and whom has been kicked about by the world as a result. I don't see someone deserving of hatred.

I am a little depressed today which does not help.

I don't hate every human, some I actually like sometimes, but I do hate society lately. It's not designed for someone like me whether I have an ASD or otherwise. Either way I had development differences growing up (asynchronous...advanced in some areas such as a high level of intellectual ability, excellent memory, good moral development beyond my years, but was also emotionally immature, over sensitive (physically and emotionally as i had issues with physical sensitivities as well as emotional ones...ie certain materials, food textures etc) and too idealistic as well) along side a quirky personality (preferred to collect bank forms rather than play with dolls, and in teen years visit museums rather than talk about boys and shop for make up...never did get on with other girls and their style of play much) and that in and of itself made it near impossible for me to relate to my peers. I don't see the world like they do, my brain does not work like theirs...

If the world is waiting for me to get normal and get a girly pack of friends, it is going to be waiting for a very long time. Unfortunately that is what men look for...the socially popular, however I find the most socially popular to oftentimes be the most manipulative as well. Not a trait I admire, especially if used for ignoble reasons.



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21 Feb 2014, 11:57 am

bumble wrote:
IKnowWhoIAmNow wrote:
bumble wrote:
IKnowWhoIAmNow wrote:
I will say only that I'm sorry this has upset you; in not wishing something on myself I was not referring to the menopause, but the lack of a sex drive; not judgement, sorrow that you (or anyone else) has reason to feel that way, especially the reasons you have given, which having seen them, makes your position understandable; I assumed you would see it and didn't quote you directly due to not wanting to answer it in full precisely because of the likely misunderstandings that might occur. I don't judge you, it's your life.


Ok explanation accepted. In all fairness I am a little on the tetchy side tonight for one reason or another and I may have misread the intention of your post.

Thanks, I hoped you'd understand. I like to think that in general terms, we'd all feel sympathy for somebody who felt their problems were so severe that they had to give up their dreams.

I only knew a fraction of your back-story, from other posts you have made on WP; but now you have told us about the rest, I hope I speak for everybody in saying I feel really sorry that you have experienced all those horrible things; nobody should have to go through any of that.

More generally, unlike NTs who at least live on what for them is the "right planet", giving up on our dreams is something that we as Aspies have all had to do now and then :(


Indeed...dreams are hard things to part with, or at least they have been for me.

I do tend to see the word pity and over react a little these days after receiving emails from people on other websites saying things like "Everyone pities you but no one wants to be with you", which I find hurtful.

Firstly how can they speak for everyone and secondly how do they know that no one wants to be with me? People have wanted to be with me but there was little compatibility. The last person I broke up with I broke up with them because they wanted to hold drugs parties in my house/garden with their mates. As someone who does not use drugs this is not acceptable to me. If they want to smoke cannabis at a friends house there is nothing I can do about that but I do not wish to be exposed to it myself and do not want people drinking alcohol and smoking drugs either in my property or outside of it. I rent, I dread to think what the landlord would think anyway.

Over the years because of my social difficulties and because of things that have happened to me I have become wary. I outline the things that have happened not because I still become emotional over them but because they add up to explain why I think they way I do in some respects. In fact I'd rather leave the events themselves in the past as i fail to see why they should govern my future. But that does not make it any easier to find compatible souls to spend time with.

A young man asked me out whilst I was walking down the street a few weeks ago. He gave me his number but I am dubious as I have no idea how accepting he is going to be of my quirks and whether or not he is another unstable one. Being with the unstable ones has worn me down as they are hard to cope with or predict. I am socially inept at reading people in certain ways which leaves me wide open to bullies and I have indeed endured a life time of bullying in one way or another.

That and I get sick of the games people play...people back stab and manipulate and I am very tired (depressed and angry at the world as well). I don't want game playing, I wanted someone who I enjoy spending time with. I wanted someone whom I could enjoy intimacy with, someone whom I could also spend time visiting museums with, walking around Britain's coastal regions with (I want to walk as much of the length of Britain's coast line as I can and then some of it's inland walks as well, it is why I started collecting OS maps but I only have a few for Norfolk thus far) and perhaps even a night at the theatre and so on. Exploring our fascinations together but without all the messing around that seems to come with having a relationship with the majority of people.

Perhaps I am too idealistic and I have to consider if my dream is out of reach for that reason alone.

The world expects me to hate myself but what I see was an exceptionally bright child who, whilst being idealistic and wanting to help people, was not too great at the social stuff and whom has been kicked about by the world as a result. I don't see someone deserving of hatred.

I am a little depressed today which does not help.

I don't hate every human, some I actually like sometimes, but I do hate society lately. It's not designed for someone like me whether I have an ASD or otherwise. Either way I had development differences growing up (asynchronous...advanced in some areas such as a high level of intellectual ability, excellent memory, good moral development beyond my years, but was also emotionally immature, over sensitive (physically and emotionally as i had issues with physical sensitivities as well as emotional ones...ie certain materials, food textures etc) and too idealistic as well) along side a quirky personality (preferred to collect bank forms rather than play with dolls, and in teen years visit museums rather than talk about boys and shop for make up...never did get on with other girls and their style of play much) and that in and of itself made it near impossible for me to relate to my peers. I don't see the world like they do, my brain does not work like theirs...

If the world is waiting for me to get normal and get a girly pack of friends, it is going to be waiting for a very long time. Unfortunately that is what men look for...the socially popular, however I find the most socially popular to oftentimes be the most manipulative as well. Not a trait I admire, especially if used for ignoble reasons.


Everyone,

Thanks for the input on this thread. I find that many people are expereincing the same. It's interesting that many are either High or None (very little in-between).

Bubble,

In my life I tend to find that persons who are on the spectrum or have any other social issue tend to be taken advantage of very easily (at least that is what I've experienced). To me it seems very wrong when it happens but generally society puts the blame on the person being taken advantage of. We seem to have the inability to judge others or to read people well enough. I found over the years that everyone behaves in a certain pattern (maybe behavior pattern). When I deal with them long enough (and they leak enough of their behavior), I construct in my mind a simulation of that person. I can then apply certain things I would say or do to that person to that simulation (in my mind), I also know the "boundaries" of their behavior (things whey will or won't do). I see certain people as very simple to understand and deal with.

As a result I can stay away from certain people!! !! ! That I know are going to be as*holes, not understand who I am or will take advantage of me!! !! !! !! !

It's crazy right now, because I work in an environment were I see lots of different patterns of behavior from various different people. Over a 2 years that I've been here I can get a good sense of how to deal with people. But for the most part it's very overwhelming!! !! !! I have a very good relationship with my two bosses. They like me. I know my current boss so well and I know what the expectations are and how to talk to him to keep him happy.

Yes, many people I come into contact with (don't say it), but they seem cold to me or "un-interested". I don't respond to them emotionally or make that connection that happens between two people to form a proper friendship??? As a result they seem disinterested in me, over the years it used to bother me. Nowadays I don't give a s**t!! !! !!

One thing that I have given up in general is the dream of friendships with multiple friends/parties etc.... a socialite, that I see some others have. I mitigate this by understanding that I have a lot of special abilities and special skills that many people don't have. Because they spent most of their lives parting, drinking and socializing.

I don't know if this helps or if it's too off topic.



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21 Feb 2014, 2:36 pm

My sex-drive fluctuates.
Sometimes it is very high, and sometimes it is low.


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16 Jul 2014, 12:32 pm

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I have a high sex drive, but that could have more to do with being a teenager :P


I have 28 years, I have been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome.

I have a very strong libido since my teens years, "and to boldly cum where no man has cum before.?

Sometimes I wonder if autism and a high sex drive have something in common.

The world is cruel, I wonder why nature creates autistic with libido, and shy at the same time so that you can not find a partner to "play together"


I would be asexual, I could then focus more on science, on my thesis, well that in addition to a high sex drive, I also have a high IQ (though I'm not a genius) have the ability to humanities.

My advice to all young aspies and other autistic, avoid pornography, it is like a disease, it can be horribly addicted to that stuff like a drugs, masturbation is the same. It should also like to remind that lust and pornography, it is a sin according to many Abrahamic religions (Christian, Judaism, Islam)



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16 Jul 2014, 12:48 pm

I only like kissing.


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16 Jul 2014, 1:46 pm

USMCnBNSFdude wrote:
I've seen a lot of these "autism and sex drive" threads, and what I've noticed is very few people ever describe themselves as normal. It's either their asexual or hypersexual...


Self-selection bias. People at the extremes of any range are more likely to volunteer to respond to questions about it. So, to balance things out a little: I think my sex drive is normal. I'm certainly not asexual nor hypersexual.


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31 Jan 2016, 8:40 pm

interesting little thing about the way my sex drive works. it can be super high or medium. depending on how I have been getting off, and how often. for instance. if I say, watch porn I come quickly, and end up doing it a LOT more often than if I imagined my sex scenes. whereas if I use my imagination I feel more immersed and do it less often. but the most interesting is if I limit myself, such as If I don't masturbate and ignore my urges for two+ days I get a LOT less hard-ons, like MAYBE one a day, and that's usually accounting for morning wood. and I never use that because its harder to pee afterwards...


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01 Feb 2016, 3:52 am

I am the complete opposite. I hate the closeness of the intimacy that is involved during sexual intercourse. There's too much flesh! I find it quite frankly revolting.

But I do like receiving hugs.


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01 Feb 2016, 5:46 pm

I think mine is quite high. Higher than my husband's anyway! I wonder if it is a sensory thing. A lot of children I know with ASC have a lot of sensory-seeking behaviour (not sexual but physical) and I know I love the sensation of being touched/stroked/hugged/pressure so I wonder if it is part of that - kind of a comforting, sensory thing - for some of us. Or maybe that's just me!



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05 Feb 2016, 3:28 pm

It used to be pretty high before I started medication that lowers it. A related issue is that I had an addiction to porn partly cuz of my high drive & because of my OCD. The porn made my drive even worse so it was kind of a cycle before I started meds for my OCD & meds to lower my drive.


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12 Feb 2016, 10:20 pm

My drive has been very high the last few weeks, it doesn't take a lot to get me excited. And I takes forever for me to calm down. :oops: just thinking of a cute girl gives urges.


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12 Feb 2016, 10:42 pm

I have a hard time discerning whether I have a high sex drive or I am obsessed with the idea mentally. There are times where my mind wants to but my body could care less. My mind ALWAYS wants to.

If it's been 4-5 days, I start to become very, very cranky, short tempered and I start to go into a depression as well. If I don't have it a few times a week I am not an easy person to be around. And that's with me being conscious of it and really trying hard to not be outwardly irritable about it. Luckily I don't usually have to cope with that.



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12 Feb 2016, 11:47 pm

Could be a co-morbid Hormone disorder.

My libido is very low, and i have excessive facial hair, im currently seeing an endocrinologist to try and figure out whats going on with my hormones.

Generally from what i heard from psychologists, Autistics generally don't crave sex as a emotional bond but a function. Everyone with autism is different... some have a higher emotional IQ than others.


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ZombieBrideXD wrote:
Could be a co-morbid Hormone disorder.

My libido is very low, and i have excessive facial hair, im currently seeing an endocrinologist to try and figure out whats going on with my hormones.

Generally from what i heard from psychologists, Autistics generally don't crave sex as a emotional bond but a function. Everyone with autism is different... some have a higher emotional IQ than others.


What do you mean "as a function"?


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Austinfrom1995 wrote:
ZombieBrideXD wrote:
Could be a co-morbid Hormone disorder.

My libido is very low, and i have excessive facial hair, im currently seeing an endocrinologist to try and figure out whats going on with my hormones.

Generally from what i heard from psychologists, Autistics generally don't crave sex as a emotional bond but a function. Everyone with autism is different... some have a higher emotional IQ than others.


What do you mean "as a function"?


Reief of stress- only to achieve orgasm. not to share it with another human being.


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