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23 Feb 2014, 12:59 pm

Absent-mindedness and terrible memory can also be signs of depression, or some kind of sleep disorder.

Edit. Given the range of contradictory replies to your thread, I'd encourage you again to seek a face-to-face meeting or assessment with a professional. I don't think we'll be reaching any kind of consensus here.

Good luck BTW.



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23 Feb 2014, 1:33 pm

Pobbles wrote:
Absent-mindedness and terrible memory can also be signs of depression, or some kind of sleep disorder.

Edit. Given the range of contradictory replies to your thread, I'd encourage you again to seek a face-to-face meeting or assessment with a professional. I don't think we'll be reaching any kind of consensus here.

Good luck BTW.


Thank you for the reply. It could be a sleep disorder - I do sleep talk and kick in my sleep and wake up multiple times a night. I'm always tired too, but I thought this was just the result of depression. I do yawn all day everyday and experience brain fog without fail. Maybe you're on to something. I'm going to ask my GP to be referred for a sleep study. Thanks!



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23 Feb 2014, 1:56 pm

RaspyAspie wrote:
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Absent-mindedness and terrible memory can also be signs of depression, or some kind of sleep disorder.

Edit. Given the range of contradictory replies to your thread, I'd encourage you again to seek a face-to-face meeting or assessment with a professional. I don't think we'll be reaching any kind of consensus here.

Good luck BTW.


Thank you for the reply. It could be a sleep disorder - I do sleep talk and kick in my sleep and wake up multiple times a night. I'm always tired too, but I thought this was just the result of depression. I do yawn all day everyday and experience brain fog without fail. Maybe you're on to something. I'm going to ask my GP to be referred for a sleep study. Thanks!


Any diabetes or thyroid problems in your family? I apologise if I'm feeding any hypochondria here, but it may also be wise to ask for a blood test too.



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23 Feb 2014, 2:59 pm

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Well if the symptoms/ traits you're describing are causing you distress or are interfering with your functioning in life then you should get evaluated by a professional, IMO. In Toronto seeing a psychologist who specializes in ASD would be very expensive but you could see a psychiatrist and be evaluated for free (covered by OHIP). You need a referral from your family doctor. You could ask to be referred to a psychiatrist who specializes in ASDs or you could just be evaluated more generally I would think. You might have to wait a long time for an appointment with a specialist. People on this website have reported very long wait times.

My diagnosis was made in childhood by a psychiatrist specializing in children with PDDs (now ASDs) at the centre for addiction and mental health (CAMH). It was pretty thorough and was covered by OHIP. There might be a specialist there in adults with ASDs. I'm not sure

If you're in high school you may be able to get a psycho-educational evaluation through the school system (talk to your guidance counsellor or just ask to be directed at the principal's office). This kind of assessment would reveal any learning disorders and/or academic weaknesses and determine what kind of accommodations might help you (and entitle you to them).

Perhaps you should just ask for a general mental health evaluation and/or neurological/motor skills evaluation. Seeing a psychiatrist and a neurologist should be covered by OHIP. If you aren't experiencing a lot of distress or impairment in your life then don't worry about seeing a doctor at all. In that case your described traits could be nothing more than normal variation in personality/skills.


Thanks for your advice Daydreamer84. So a neurologist would typically run brain scans to check for any abnormalities?

What I don't understand, however, is if I'm neurotypical, what could possibly explain why I get so lost in my own thoughts? So much so that I do embarrassingly absent-minded things, like putting cookware in places it doesn't belong. Brain damage? Low intelligence? Early onset of dementia? I know this may sound self-deprecating to some, but I'm not afraid to look at my weaknesses; I really value self-awareness and an accurate view of self. I just want to understand myself better . . .


A neurologist might have you do exercises to assess your motor skills and compare them to a typical adult if you were concerned about your motor skills. He might do a general neurological exam and check your memory and certain basic skills and if he thinks it might be warranted send you for a brain scan.

Getting lost in your own thoughts and being very absent minded could be completely normal, normal variation in personality traits. Some people are just absent minded , introspective types. My mum does stuff like putting the remote in the fridge because she's not paying attention and she misplaces her keys all the time and and she has no diagnosable brain problem besides migraines. She had a neurological examination and brain scans because she gets frequent migraines and nothing was found to be wrong with her. She holds down a job and functions well in society. I know many absent-minded NTs and I'm extremely absent-minded too. You could just be one of us spacey people. :)

Still if you're concerned or distressed about your health you should definitely talk to your GP. We're lucky enough to live in Canada and be able to do that when we need to without worrying about the cost.



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23 Feb 2014, 3:17 pm

Pobbles wrote:
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Pobbles wrote:
Absent-mindedness and terrible memory can also be signs of depression, or some kind of sleep disorder.

Edit. Given the range of contradictory replies to your thread, I'd encourage you again to seek a face-to-face meeting or assessment with a professional. I don't think we'll be reaching any kind of consensus here.

Good luck BTW.


Thank you for the reply. It could be a sleep disorder - I do sleep talk and kick in my sleep and wake up multiple times a night. I'm always tired too, but I thought this was just the result of depression. I do yawn all day everyday and experience brain fog without fail. Maybe you're on to something. I'm going to ask my GP to be referred for a sleep study. Thanks!


Any diabetes or thyroid problems in your family? I apologise if I'm feeding any hypochondria here, but it may also be wise to ask for a blood test too.


I had a thyroid test done and there was no discernible problem there. Diabetes actually runs in my family; my grandmother and cousin have it. I don't think I have diabetes, but do you think low blood sugar could be a factor here? I do get light headed when I stand up quickly and feel very exhausted/ nauseous after gym workouts; which I heard could be related to low BS.



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23 Feb 2014, 3:28 pm

daydreamer84 wrote:
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Well if the symptoms/ traits you're describing are causing you distress or are interfering with your functioning in life then you should get evaluated by a professional, IMO. In Toronto seeing a psychologist who specializes in ASD would be very expensive but you could see a psychiatrist and be evaluated for free (covered by OHIP). You need a referral from your family doctor. You could ask to be referred to a psychiatrist who specializes in ASDs or you could just be evaluated more generally I would think. You might have to wait a long time for an appointment with a specialist. People on this website have reported very long wait times.

My diagnosis was made in childhood by a psychiatrist specializing in children with PDDs (now ASDs) at the centre for addiction and mental health (CAMH). It was pretty thorough and was covered by OHIP. There might be a specialist there in adults with ASDs. I'm not sure

If you're in high school you may be able to get a psycho-educational evaluation through the school system (talk to your guidance counsellor or just ask to be directed at the principal's office). This kind of assessment would reveal any learning disorders and/or academic weaknesses and determine what kind of accommodations might help you (and entitle you to them).

Perhaps you should just ask for a general mental health evaluation and/or neurological/motor skills evaluation. Seeing a psychiatrist and a neurologist should be covered by OHIP. If you aren't experiencing a lot of distress or impairment in your life then don't worry about seeing a doctor at all. In that case your described traits could be nothing more than normal variation in personality/skills.


Thanks for your advice Daydreamer84. So a neurologist would typically run brain scans to check for any abnormalities?

What I don't understand, however, is if I'm neurotypical, what could possibly explain why I get so lost in my own thoughts? So much so that I do embarrassingly absent-minded things, like putting cookware in places it doesn't belong. Brain damage? Low intelligence? Early onset of dementia? I know this may sound self-deprecating to some, but I'm not afraid to look at my weaknesses; I really value self-awareness and an accurate view of self. I just want to understand myself better . . .


A neurologist might have you do exercises to assess your motor skills and compare them to a typical adult if you were concerned about your motor skills. He might do a general neurological exam and check your memory and certain basic skills and if he thinks it might be warranted send you for a brain scan.

Getting lost in your own thoughts and being very absent minded could be completely normal, normal variation in personality traits. Some people are just absent minded , introspective types. My mum does stuff like putting the remote in the fridge because she's not paying attention and she misplaces her keys all the time and and she has no diagnosable brain problem besides migraines. She had a neurological examination and brain scans because she gets frequent migraines and nothing was found to be wrong with her. She holds down a job and functions well in society. I know many absent-minded NTs and I'm extremely absent-minded too. You could just be one of us spacey people. :)

Still if you're concerned or distressed about your health you should definitely talk to your GP. We're lucky enough to live in Canada and be able to do that when we need to without worrying about the cost.


Thanks again for your reassurance. It helps to know I'm not alone or somehow defective :P.

I suppose I'll bring it up to my GP, however he seems hellbent on relating everything to my depression. I tried explaining to him that I feel float and spacey all day everyday and that I have brain fog, but at the time I thought these symptoms were possibly related to ADD and was asking for help in that area. He firmly believed I didn't have ADD (he knows I'm a writer who's also on antidepressant medication so he probably thinks my distractibility is mostly caused by depression - and after further research I think I agree with him). So the discussion ended there. Maybe I'll try for a blood test . . .



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26 Apr 2014, 6:20 pm

Did you ever come to any conclusion?
What you explained is exactly how I feel so I'm curious.



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31 May 2014, 3:34 pm

I haven't yet, but I'm searching deeply and widely for answers. How is your search going?



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31 May 2014, 3:47 pm

I guess I can give you my thoughts I what I believe I have. Without a doubt, I do have some form of dyspraxia. I was born two weeks pre-mature by non-labour c-section, and I read that this could cause dyspraxic symptoms. I don't think I have Aspergers, as I've come to realize that even in its mildest form, it's still overtly noticeable. My dyspraxia can cause Aspie-like symptoms, such as trouble organizing language for speech, trouble recognizing faces, etc., but I'm confident I don't qualify as Aspie. I think I'm just a quirky introvert with undiagnosed dyspraxia and some emotional conflicts that I'm starting to really resolve and work on :).