Conservative admits smart people not Conservative
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This is why Trump scares Democrats so much since economic nationalism is good for the working class while globalism is how these big huge corporations how screwed the working class for decades now, Trump is not an ideologue on social issues and is rebelling against this totalitarian political correctness. Trump wins with your pocketbook, he wins at foreign policy, he promises to be a warrior for the American people which the special interests are at war with. There will be a realignment, American political parties have always shifted in terms of internal factions but the reality is that GOP electorate liked what Trump had to say and his stances on the issues more than what the GOP was offering. Trump essentially ran as an independent in the GOP primary, they rejected the party platform straight up because there is no way Trump would have survived all that he has survived without that.
I dunno... I think it's a mistake to assume that a whole swath of the population holds one or another particular set of social values based solely on social class. My dad was a working class guy, and union member, and he was for the most part a social liberal, as were friends he worked with, but there were others my dad knew who were conservative Republicans.
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Oh, he was. But he could also be a jackass.
Yeah but Buckley and his cohort were a whole nuther kind of conservative... The kind who would call BS on Ayn Rand.
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Oh, he was. But he could also be a jackass.
Yeah but Buckley and his cohort were a whole nuther kind of conservative... The kind who would call BS on Ayn Rand.
Absolutely true. To his credit, he had opposed the lunatic fringe following Barry Goldwater, and doubtlessly would have spoken out against the same types filling the ranks of trump's fanclub.
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They still do have some intellectuals and educated academics on their side. Though they have largely retreated from the colleges and have taken refuge in think tanks and places like liberty university. I would regard this as a mistake for the conservatives to cede the ground of academia. If they were sensible they would try to take back a significant stage in colleges and the media; so that they balance out the influence. If they continue to allow their opponents to dominate these areas without contest, then the young will be largely swept up.
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They still do have some intellectuals and educated academics on their side. Though they have largely retreated from the colleges and have taken refuge in think tanks and places like liberty university. I would regard this as a mistake for the conservatives to cede the ground of academia. If they were sensible they would try to take back a significant stage in colleges and the media; so that they balance out the influence. If they continue to allow their opponents to dominate these areas without contest, then the young will be largely swept up.
I personally wouldn't count Liberty University as a place for intellectualism.
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Well, both social and political classes in my country seem to always gain the upper hand, whether some normal voters like it or not.
It's purely class instinct to vote for a party which has held the majority of votes for a while, but whilst this element of voting has been used for some time, things like trade relations and customs controls aren't really thought of until they are forced to make a decision that impacts upon them, like keeping our NHS free from E.U backbenchers, which no smart opinion poll can conclude.
There will be setbacks if we leave the E.U, but ultimately in the long run, people will be given back their say on reforms and not leave it by proxy to decide, which seems to make up most of the vote but, each independant person has a right to know how it could affect their family and how, they can foresee in the future what will happen for them.
People want lots of things, so lets hope they are able to get them. The ties can only be suppressed by scaremongering non voters and expats, along with ex bureaucrats and prisoners of E.U law.
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