The Autistics Holocaust
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Wheres the irony?
His country of Austria merged with Germany.
The Wermacht was not the SS, nor the Gestapo, it was the regular German Army.
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Perhaps so, but under Hitler's rule it was still a tool of the nazi ideology.
Anyone in it with any kind of trait deemed undesirable would have been quickly weeded out.
It should be pointed out that the opposition to Hitler and the Nazis was mostly found in the ranks of the Wermacht and it's inteligence arm, the Abwehr - men of conscience like Klaus Von Stauffenberg, Wilhlem Cannaris, and Erwin Rommel. These true German partriots recognized that soldiers fought to defended their country, not to murder innocent people who didn't fit in with the ideology of a raving maniac.
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Perfecting the aryan race was more of a long term goal to be achieved by genetic engineering.
As far as autistics and the other mentally handicapped it was a matter of whether or not an individual was useful. If someone's doing something constructive they wouldn't be noticed.
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Perfecting the aryan race was more of a long term goal to be achieved by genetic engineering.
As far as autistics and the other mentally handicapped it was a matter of whether or not an individual was useful. If someone's doing something constructive they wouldn't be noticed.
Unless they were a musician or an artist. "Productive" meant productive for the Nazi agenda, not the greater good of everyone. Jews were some of the most productive people of the German society, they ran a lot of business and drove a lot of economy.
It would have done Hitler and the entire third reich well if he'd just swallowed his antisemitism and allowed the Jews to continue being productive regular members of German society. They wasted a hell of a lot of technical talent and manpower by persecuting the Jews.
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It would have done Hitler and the entire third reich well if he'd just swallowed his antisemitism and allowed the Jews to continue being productive regular members of German society. They wasted a hell of a lot of technical talent and manpower by persecuting the Jews.
Not only that, but Hitler might have ended up with the atomic bomb. But because of his Antisemitism, he called the proper science for building the thing "Jewish science," and so wanted nothing to do with it. He had told Heisenberg to find some other way to build the bomb. Heisenberg, as it turns out, didn't know how to build the A Bomb - and it doubtlessly didn't help Hitler in that Heisenberg was purposely dragging his feet.
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/\ There's no way the allies would have assassinated Hitler even if there'd been a golden opportunity. He was of greater value being left in place to accelerate Germany's losing the war.
One blunder after the other.
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One blunder after the other.
That was doubtlessly true.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
It would have done Hitler and the entire third reich well if he'd just swallowed his antisemitism and allowed the Jews to continue being productive regular members of German society. They wasted a hell of a lot of technical talent and manpower by persecuting the Jews.
Not only that, but Hitler might have ended up with the atomic bomb. But because of his Antisemitism, he called the proper science for building the thing "Jewish science," and so wanted nothing to do with it. He had told Heisenberg to find some other way to build the bomb. Heisenberg, as it turns out, didn't know how to build the A Bomb - and it doubtlessly didn't help Hitler in that Heisenberg was purposely dragging his feet.
And, of course, many of the best German physicists were Jewish, including Einstein, and had fled Nazi persecution.
You have to wonder what Hitler would have chosen - win the war with the help of German Jews, or lose it but exterminate them. Obviously it's more complex than that (they could have won or lost with or without them), but I don't know whether his priority was winning the war or exterminating the unfit. I guess there's little to stop him winning the war and then exterminating...
Kraichgauer
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It would have done Hitler and the entire third reich well if he'd just swallowed his antisemitism and allowed the Jews to continue being productive regular members of German society. They wasted a hell of a lot of technical talent and manpower by persecuting the Jews.
Not only that, but Hitler might have ended up with the atomic bomb. But because of his Antisemitism, he called the proper science for building the thing "Jewish science," and so wanted nothing to do with it. He had told Heisenberg to find some other way to build the bomb. Heisenberg, as it turns out, didn't know how to build the A Bomb - and it doubtlessly didn't help Hitler in that Heisenberg was purposely dragging his feet.
And, of course, many of the best German physicists were Jewish, including Einstein, and had fled Nazi persecution.
You have to wonder what Hitler would have chosen - win the war with the help of German Jews, or lose it but exterminate them. Obviously it's more complex than that (they could have won or lost with or without them), but I don't know whether his priority was winning the war or exterminating the unfit. I guess there's little to stop him winning the war and then exterminating...
Goes to show you how hate can go beyond just the irrational, and crosses the threshold into the pathological - even if it means in the end losing everthing, as Hitler did.
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One blunder after the other.
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One blunder after the other.
Hitler was a masterful politician, but he had greatly overestimated himself as a military commander.
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We still have a street named after Charles Fremont Dight in Minneapolis.