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28 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm

Some people are dicks, there are too many of them to take too much of what they say to heart. You know yourself and no one else can tell you any differently, I wouldn't heed much attention to the ignorant. I don't feel like I am a bad person, I don't feel like I need to justify my existence in any way, I am what I am and I'm working on it to the best of my abilities. Maybe one day they'll know, maybe one day they'll find themselves in a similar situation and understand.



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29 Oct 2014, 12:13 am

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You're never going to get everyone to agree with you. Deep breaths, let it go...

I assume this is about the welfare thread ... I read through a bit of it as I too am on disability and am unable to work right now.

I think it is hard for people who support themselves not to be a bit smug - they are of higher value to society. We are a bit of a weight. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about it. I don't like to be a burden and I am capable of hard work - it's the communication that is a problem for me.


The problem is society valuing people for the amount of wealth they have. I don't really buy into it though don't see why I should.


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29 Oct 2014, 12:18 am

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Have you tried weed?


Very dangerous for aspies and people who are chemically unbalanced. If you're going to self-medicate, then it's clearly the best option out there, but for people like us who tend to rely on routines and really want an escape, it's incredibly easy to get addicted to the high. It can help with the pain for a time, but can easily lead to further isolation and hurt more in the long run.


Not sure about that, I find it to be very helpful especially when I am feeling chemically unbalanced which happens a lot with with my various conditions. It seems to help more than any medication that has ever been prescribed to me. I also don't find it leading to isolation, since lots of other people enjoy it so thus you can smoke with people. Either way I find it calms me if I am having any suicidal ideation, though sometimes even that won't provide enough relief.


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29 Oct 2014, 12:35 am

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I didn't go over all of it, but the last several pages seemed to indicate it was one person you had problems with. There's always someone you will not get along with in any group, but they don't represent the whole group, and its best just to avoid one another. Its pretty easily done on a forum.

It wasn't just one person. Reading what that guy wrote pushed me over the edge but I was already worked up over someone else acting extremely high and mighty (e.g. "I won't date anyone living with mommy and daddy or making less than 40 grand") in another thread, who also proceeded to accuse me of being a creeper when I expressed the opinion that suddenly cutting contact after several dates was rude. There's only so much s**t I can take from people. MY LIFE IS NOT EASY, DO NOT f**k WITH ME! That's all I want these particular asswipes to understand.



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29 Oct 2014, 12:37 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
The problem is society valuing people for the amount of wealth they have. I don't really buy into it though don't see why I should.


The ability to acquire wealth has been used as the guide for valuing human worth. But I think this is an inaccurate measuring tool. People offer lots of value that isn't commercially rewarded.



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29 Oct 2014, 1:18 am

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The problem is society valuing people for the amount of wealth they have. I don't really buy into it though don't see why I should.

It seems like it's driven narcissistic people who care a whole lot about where they are seen on the social totem-pole. I don't care if what's-his-face was interested in business and finance and wanted a partner with similar interests and ambitions. It's possible to have preferences without being a dick about it and expressing yourself arrogantly. I'd like to have a partner that's intelligent enough to have deeper discussions, but I'm not going around looking down my nose at people with a lower IQ than me.



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29 Oct 2014, 1:48 am

yep society is going down the commercial drain. I totally get how you feel. they upset me and I also feel like a burden to society too. plus no one wants me cause of how worthless I am. doesn't seem to be any fighting them though.

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29 Oct 2014, 3:54 am

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The problem is society valuing people for the amount of wealth they have. I don't really buy into it though don't see why I should.

It seems like it's driven narcissistic people who care a whole lot about where they are seen on the social totem-pole. I don't care if what's-his-face was interested in business and finance and wanted a partner with similar interests and ambitions. It's possible to have preferences without being a dick about it and expressing yourself arrogantly. I'd like to have a partner that's intelligent enough to have deeper discussions, but I'm not going around looking down my nose at people with a lower IQ than me.


I agree with that, there was no need for them to be a dick about it. That kind of bigotry tends to contribute to me feeling like a worthless piece of crap that should off myself....so I get that feeling. Anyways sorry you're having to deal with those feelings.


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29 Oct 2014, 4:05 am

sly279 wrote:
yep society is going down the commercial drain. I totally get how you feel. they upset me and I also feel like a burden to society too. plus no one wants me cause of how worthless I am. doesn't seem to be any fighting them though.

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Yeah, that is kind of how it seems...seems like more likely to just develop apathy towards society, do ones own thing apart from it and hopefully influence it for the better, that sounds really half a**ed but what else does one do. Fight it and it would be like repeatedly running into a brick wall like an idiot thinking you're actually going to break it while just hurting yourself.


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29 Oct 2014, 10:43 am

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The problem is society valuing people for the amount of wealth they have. I don't really buy into it though don't see why I should.

It seems like it's driven narcissistic people who care a whole lot about where they are seen on the social totem-pole. I don't care if what's-his-face was interested in business and finance and wanted a partner with similar interests and ambitions. It's possible to have preferences without being a dick about it and expressing yourself arrogantly. I'd like to have a partner that's intelligent enough to have deeper discussions, but I'm not going around looking down my nose at people with a lower IQ than me.


I agree with that, there was no need for them to be a dick about it. That kind of bigotry tends to contribute to me feeling like a worthless piece of crap that should off myself....so I get that feeling. Anyways sorry you're having to deal with those feelings.

Something tells me that with my depression I wouldn't be happy even if I was making a lot of money. I just don't see running a business as any fun. It sounds no more appealing than working fast food. I could easily look down my nose at these MBA-douche types as boring philistines. If I want to see passion I'd rather hang out with artists or scientists. Those people have passion, but they don't always make their money from their passion.



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29 Oct 2014, 1:14 pm

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Something tells me that with my depression I wouldn't be happy even if I was making a lot of money. I just don't see running a business as any fun. It sounds no more appealing than working fast food. I could easily look down my nose at these MBA-douche types as boring philistines. If I want to see passion I'd rather hang out with artists or scientists. Those people have passion, but they don't always make their money from their passion.


I really doubt making a lot of money would make me happy....it wouldn't change the state of the world or anything, I would just be able to buy more stuff. But I hate the whole concept of money, It is beyond me how exactly it could be set up but I think the world is in dire need for something that is not a monetary system....there is enough on the world for everyone to live comfortably I bet. But humans are too stuck on power and status, and the false idea that our society/economic system actually represents survival of the fittest and there are limited resources that 'have' to be fought over. It's all BS....me or you or anyone else managing to end up making more money doesn't change any of that. Either way I think humans have constructed a trap for themselves.


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29 Oct 2014, 1:48 pm

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Something tells me that with my depression I wouldn't be happy even if I was making a lot of money. I just don't see running a business as any fun. It sounds no more appealing than working fast food. I could easily look down my nose at these MBA-douche types as boring philistines. If I want to see passion I'd rather hang out with artists or scientists. Those people have passion, but they don't always make their money from their passion.


I really doubt making a lot of money would make me happy....it wouldn't change the state of the world or anything, I would just be able to buy more stuff. But I hate the whole concept of money, It is beyond me how exactly it could be set up but I think the world is in dire need for something that is not a monetary system....there is enough on the world for everyone to live comfortably I bet. But humans are too stuck on power and status, and the false idea that our society/economic system actually represents survival of the fittest and there are limited resources that 'have' to be fought over. It's all BS....me or you or anyone else managing to end up making more money doesn't change any of that. Either way I think humans have constructed a trap for themselves.


The way the economy works now isn't sustainable long term. It isn't a steady-state system. We'll keep having recessions, and with each one inequality will grow worse. The developing world is still growing, but once they catch up it will be all over. There'll no longer be rich countries and poor countries. There'll be a rich elite that owns most everything in every country. The masses will all be poor in comparison.



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29 Oct 2014, 6:33 pm

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Something tells me that with my depression I wouldn't be happy even if I was making a lot of money. I just don't see running a business as any fun. It sounds no more appealing than working fast food. I could easily look down my nose at these MBA-douche types as boring philistines. If I want to see passion I'd rather hang out with artists or scientists. Those people have passion, but they don't always make their money from their passion.


I really doubt making a lot of money would make me happy....it wouldn't change the state of the world or anything, I would just be able to buy more stuff. But I hate the whole concept of money, It is beyond me how exactly it could be set up but I think the world is in dire need for something that is not a monetary system....there is enough on the world for everyone to live comfortably I bet. But humans are too stuck on power and status, and the false idea that our society/economic system actually represents survival of the fittest and there are limited resources that 'have' to be fought over. It's all BS....me or you or anyone else managing to end up making more money doesn't change any of that. Either way I think humans have constructed a trap for themselves.


The way the economy works now isn't sustainable long term. It isn't a steady-state system. We'll keep having recessions, and with each one inequality will grow worse. The developing world is still growing, but once they catch up it will be all over. There'll no longer be rich countries and poor countries. There'll be a rich elite that owns most everything in every country. The masses will all be poor in comparison.


Sadly, that seems to be the way things are certainly headed.


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29 Oct 2014, 9:38 pm

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Sadly, that seems to be the way things are certainly headed.

I really have to try and not think about the state of the world. I can't change it and I have to take care of myself first. I don't really care about making money, but I need at least some structure in my life. I feel better about volunteering.



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I really have to try and not think about the state of the world. I can't change it and I have to take care of myself first. I don't really care about making money, but I need at least some structure in my life. I feel better about volunteering.

That's a good plan. I deal with humanity-despising moods myself, a few times a month or so. Mostly it stems from my inability to understand others, particularly NTs. It's hard to empathize when all I see in them, compared to myself, is selfish and thoughtless behavior. Unfortunately these people have some things I need such as money and other resources, so I have to deal with them.

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why is the love and dating section so unloving?

I really don't know. I've heard what other posters say about it and I don't even bother going in there. Even if I had any interest in love and dating, I would still avoid it.


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