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Cafeaulait
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24 Nov 2014, 11:56 am

I'm a very good presentor but also extremely perfectionistic and therefore worry excessively before and after presentations.
And yes a slight lack of sleep brings out the best in me. Don't know why. I guess it builds healthy pressure in me.



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24 Nov 2014, 4:05 pm

I find certain [races? nationalities?] more attractive than others.
You don't like that? Neither do I, but it is how it is.

What next? It's dumb to be more attracted to girls with brown hair than blonde?
Dumb to have a preference toward taller, slimmer girls?
Dumb to prefer GIRLS?

Ultimately, we cannot control who we are attracted to.
True, we can put it aside temporarily and agree to a date [or, social meeting of whatever sort] with someone outside of our typical likes, and we might find pure gold.
But it is often the physical attraction that gets the ball rolling, and once again...can't control that!

You did mention friends though, and on that point I agree. It's discriminatory / bullying / etc to not be friends with someone because of their race, hair, disability, without any real REASON [their personality]



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24 Nov 2014, 4:20 pm

People who say "I don't date <race/color" always turn out to be somehow racists.

People who say "I don't date <religion/denomination>" always turn out to be indirect fanatics.

and so on...

This how they usually turn out to be.
Such ultimatum statements tell volumes about the person.

Gender doesn't count because sexual orientation is biologically encoded, however I think there's no genetic variation that makes one impossible to be attracted to other races/religions - this is purely influenced by conscious choice.

And no, it doesn't matter if they have friends of certain race/religion - I've personally encountered plenty of people who have outing friends/buddies of different religions but when you scratch them you find fanatics, they even think of them as inferior.



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24 Nov 2014, 5:23 pm

In my opinion, I think that its natural to be attracted more to one race than to another. You can't really control what and who you are attracted to. I am attracted to non-white guys over white guys(I'm white myself) most of the time, and I don't think it makes me a racist. But this guy took it too far:

The original blog:

http://sleeplessinaustin.atxmirrors.info

Interview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/2 ... 97377.html


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24 Nov 2014, 5:47 pm

Agreed with Boo. One of the most intelligent posts so far. Didn't know Boo had that much intellectual capacities.
And it has nothing to do with 'natural'. I don't have a preference and there is nothing 'unnatural' about that.



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24 Nov 2014, 7:38 pm

I admit I have preferences and generally have always preferred a certain "look" because its easier for me to be attracted to what I find familiar.

Really don't like being called a racist because of that but hey whatever.



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24 Nov 2014, 11:34 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
Agreed with Boo. One of the most intelligent posts so far. Didn't know Boo had that much intellectual capacities.
And it has nothing to do with 'natural'. I don't have a preference and there is nothing 'unnatural' about that.


um you have said a few times you have a preference for intellectual/intelligent attractive men.
same as others preferences so sit on your imaginary high horse.

if you can't bring yourself to date someone you don't find attractive why should others have to do it?

I don't get how you condemn other's preferences while having your own. or is it cause you consider yourself a different ethnicity than them. and don't feel good that some people would chose to not date you based on that. well it hurts seeing you wouldn't date people like me cause you consider us non intellectual.

I am open and accepting that people think and feel differently and find themselves attractive to different types of people so unless they are like man that woman is hot and attractive as hell, too bad shes ____ I don't date them. then its not racist.

reality is most everyone has preferences of some kind. either they are all wrong or all are ok. you can't pick the ones that bother you and keep your own. same reason why women who find me ugly shouldn't have to date me.



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24 Nov 2014, 11:53 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People who say "I don't date <race/color" always turn out to be somehow racists.

People who say "I don't date <religion/denomination>" always turn out to be indirect fanatics.

and so on...

This how they usually turn out to be.
Such ultimatum statements tell volumes about the person.

Gender doesn't count because sexual orientation is biologically encoded, however I think there's no genetic variation that makes one impossible to be attracted to other races/religions - this is purely influenced by conscious choice.

And no, it doesn't matter if they have friends of certain race/religion - I've personally encountered plenty of people who have outing friends/buddies of different religions but when you scratch them you find fanatics, they even think of them as inferior.


or there are significant differences in religion that would cause huge issues in the relationship? if say one or both sides feel the other will go to hell if they don't convert, or how to spend the holidays, what religion will you raise the children as. I am open to dating people from different religions, but having read some profiles and talked to some it just can't work out in most cases unless both don't take it serious.

I could not be with a muslim who do to her beliefs views herself lower then me and wears the cover all over her body except her eyes. I was brought up as a christian who raised by women to know women are equals.

then theres meal problems. jews can't eat pig. I love porkchops, bacon and other things. same as I couldn't really date a vegan or vegetarian

you need to understand there can be very real reasons for not dating types of people and rather then write you a book each time its easier to say you just don't date ____.

could you date someone who talks about god all the time, goes to church 3-4 times a week and all that is on their facebook is god this god that , praise god, etc. or would that get in way with your beliefs as an atheist?



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25 Nov 2014, 12:09 am

Obviously, I can't speak for everyone...but it seems most people around the world feel more comfortable in intimate relationships with those of their own ethnicity. Honestly, I don't see a problem with that, nor do I take offense with those who choose differently.

My individual preferences have multiple aspects, the first being I've had several negative experiences around those with a darker skin tone. I don't despise them, and some have been nice to me...but many I've met appear to have a very big chip on their shoulder concerning "the white world". Its probably made me fairly paranoid, but my choice isn't born from hate. I think racism is stupid, but I don't see preferring someone who resembles yourself as inherently racist because there's no malice involved.


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25 Nov 2014, 12:13 am

sly279 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
Agreed with Boo. One of the most intelligent posts so far. Didn't know Boo had that much intellectual capacities.
And it has nothing to do with 'natural'. I don't have a preference and there is nothing 'unnatural' about that.


um you have said a few times you have a preference for intellectual/intelligent attractive men.
same as others preferences so sit on your imaginary high horse.

if you can't bring yourself to date someone you don't find attractive why should others have to do it?

I don't get how you condemn other's preferences while having your own. or is it cause you consider yourself a different ethnicity than them. and don't feel good that some people would chose to not date you based on that. well it hurts seeing you wouldn't date people like me cause you consider us non intellectual.

I am open and accepting that people think and feel differently and find themselves attractive to different types of people so unless they are like man that woman is hot and attractive as hell, too bad shes ____ I don't date them. then its not racist.

reality is most everyone has preferences of some kind. either they are all wrong or all are ok. you can't pick the ones that bother you and keep your own. same reason why women who find me ugly shouldn't have to date me.


I'll probably get rocks thrown at me for this*, but I like some of the things Sly said here.

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And I don't think all preferences are conscious. All I know is that I've only been seriously attracted to dorky (adorkable) guys of a certain race. Maybe that will change. I used to be absolutely obsessed with blue eyes, and I thought that was my main preference. That all disappeared when I met [insert crush's name here].

And I've never looked at a guy and thought, "He's [insert any race], so I'm not attracted to him."

*I needed an opportunity to use this picture again.


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25 Nov 2014, 2:02 am

sly279 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
Agreed with Boo. One of the most intelligent posts so far. Didn't know Boo had that much intellectual capacities.
And it has nothing to do with 'natural'. I don't have a preference and there is nothing 'unnatural' about that.


um you have said a few times you have a preference for intellectual/intelligent attractive men.
same as others preferences so sit on your imaginary high horse.

if you can't bring yourself to date someone you don't find attractive why should others have to do it?

I don't get how you condemn other's preferences while having your own. or is it cause you consider yourself a different ethnicity than them. and don't feel good that some people would chose to not date you based on that. well it hurts seeing you wouldn't date people like me cause you consider us non intellectual.

I am open and accepting that people think and feel differently and find themselves attractive to different types of people so unless they are like man that woman is hot and attractive as hell, too bad shes ____ I don't date them. then its not racist.

reality is most everyone has preferences of some kind. either they are all wrong or all are ok. you can't pick the ones that bother you and keep your own. same reason why women who find me ugly shouldn't have to date me.


This post is filled with assumptions that you label as facts. I Do Not agree with you. I even find your line of reasoning so simplistic and on surface that it takes away my energy to analytically respond to your 'arguments'. I would type way to much as a response to something of very little intellectual value (to me, at least). Same as with other users here. Also your repeated one-liners which come down to 'why can't people date who they are attracted to' make no impression with me. To me it has nothing to do with 'not being allowed'. People can do what they want, and they will.

Goodbye, Sly.



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25 Nov 2014, 2:49 am

Cafeaulait wrote:
Agreed with Boo. One of the most intelligent posts so far. Didn't know Boo had that much intellectual capacities.
And it has nothing to do with 'natural'. I don't have a preference and there is nothing 'unnatural' about that.


Does that mean that I often sound dumb? :-/



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25 Nov 2014, 3:17 am

I was just kidding Honey Boo Boo :lol:
In general you offer people new perspectives and deliver unconventional but useful advice (though not always tacktful). You will be just fine :)



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25 Nov 2014, 4:28 am

Acknowledging the idea of race in any context is racism.

So let's just stop talking



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25 Nov 2014, 11:11 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
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Cafeaulait wrote:
Agreed with Boo. One of the most intelligent posts so far. Didn't know Boo had that much intellectual capacities.
And it has nothing to do with 'natural'. I don't have a preference and there is nothing 'unnatural' about that.


um you have said a few times you have a preference for intellectual/intelligent attractive men.
same as others preferences so sit on your imaginary high horse.

if you can't bring yourself to date someone you don't find attractive why should others have to do it?

I don't get how you condemn other's preferences while having your own. or is it cause you consider yourself a different ethnicity than them. and don't feel good that some people would chose to not date you based on that. well it hurts seeing you wouldn't date people like me cause you consider us non intellectual.

I am open and accepting that people think and feel differently and find themselves attractive to different types of people so unless they are like man that woman is hot and attractive as hell, too bad shes ____ I don't date them. then its not racist.

reality is most everyone has preferences of some kind. either they are all wrong or all are ok. you can't pick the ones that bother you and keep your own. same reason why women who find me ugly shouldn't have to date me.


This post is filled with assumptions that you label as facts. I Do Not agree with you. I even find your line of reasoning so simplistic and on surface that it takes away my energy to analytically respond to your 'arguments'. I would type way to much as a response to something of very little intellectual value (to me, at least). Same as with other users here. Also your repeated one-liners which come down to 'why can't people date who they are attracted to' make no impression with me. To me it has nothing to do with 'not being allowed'. People can do what they want, and they will.

Goodbye, Sly.


whatever be a hypocrite like many others just leave me and others alone.
thanks for saying talking to me is very little intellectual value. it seems you aren't the person I thought you were in which case don't want to take to someone who is so judgemental

its so funny that those people who complain about people being judgmental are often themselves judgmental.
why can't you just be like thats not my preference but live in let live. instead you call them dumb or liars or whatever mean thing you want.

I don't smoke, but I don't hate on smokers, i don't get abortions but i support others doing it. I don't like xbox but I don't troll xbox owners. I'd rather be kind and open minded than what you consider intelligent.