Asperger's and sports; Athletic aspies?

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02 Apr 2016, 10:17 am

I am formally diagnosed with ADHD but I suspect I'm on the autism spectrum as well. So take my words with a grain of salt.
I have played golf my entire life and played at the collegiate level as well. My average for 18 holes was in the mid 80s when I was at the top of my game (and was undiagnosed and unmediated at the time). I loved the individual aspect and walking carrying my 30lb bag on my shoulders. I loved being outside and weathering the elements. I loved the quiet. I did best in situations where I had to land the ball in a specific spot or was in a tight lie. I wasn't friends with my team in high school at all and mostly kept to myself. In college at a big university it was the same, but when I transferred to a small liberal nerdy school, I was a lot more in my element and made great friends.
I also played a lot of team sports growing up and I did best in the ones that were fast paced with short bursts, like basketball. I was and am still very good at team sports and have experienced "flow" or hyperfocus, but I also got injured a lot. After a couple of sprained ankles and broken fingers, I decided to focus on non contact sports instead.
I think it's 100% possible for someone on the spectrum to excel at a team sport, especially if it's one you genuinely love and have a lot of experience in. When I played basketball I found myself looking harder for body cues and using strategy logic to predict what people were going to do, which makes sense and is something I think that someone on the spectrum can be good at especially with training. Idk maybe I'm way off the mark but I think it's possible. I think it's great that you got the diagnosis you needed and are playing sports! Represent! :D



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11 Apr 2016, 2:25 pm

I was a very good boxer and wrestler and I still compete in boxing matches from time to time when I feel I have become too fat.

I was a state champion in track and field as well (400m dash).

I turned to boxing after being bullied and was quite good at it. I became fascinated with how you can identify what a man does well and does not do well and use that to pick him apart and do as much damage to him as possible. I pulled back from it when I became a little too fascinated with that all.

Hang gliding has been my savior for happiness on this planet.



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21 Apr 2016, 3:47 pm

My whole family has always played sports, it was just something I've been doing for as long as I can remember. Soccer, softball, hockey (man, did I love hockey) field hockey, lacrosse. My aunt (whom I have suspected of also having asperger's, her son does... several people in my family do) got a full scholarship for lacrosse. I was captain of my field hockey team, MVP and leading goal scorer in the district my senior year. I loved it, even when I hated it. I have always had a natural sense of my own body, I dunno. It's strange. Sometimes I am very clumsy, I often misjudge doorframes and slam myself all over walls, sometimes I just topple over while I'm walking because I forget to hold myself straight up. But I've never broken a bone. I've never badly hurt myself. I just always seem to catch myself at the last moment and know what to do. And if I'm playing a sport I get into this sort of fluid state where I understand my body and how to use my momentum and the momentum of others against them. It feels great.

I think that if it weren't for sports I would have had a far harder time growing up. It really helped me learn how to use my energy the right ways and what ways of touching others were appropriate, etc. and it gave me a sense of belonging to be on a team. It's very clear what you're doing, or at least I always thought so. There's nothing vague about it. You just want to try to win. Ahhh. I haven't played a sport in years and I definitely feel like my mental state is suffering for it. My anxiety is through the roof. I ought to join a bar softball league or something if I could bear meeting new folk... :P



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25 Apr 2016, 8:46 am

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Team sports and I don't get along except sometimes in a spectator relationship. But, I was quite good with Taekwondo when I was a teen......
--Clay Marzo who is an American professional surfer with AS
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I came here too to mention Clay Marzo, also I'm not sure if I'm right but wasn't that great chess player also ASD? The guy who was said to have a "walling" strategy that made the opponent feel like he/she was being over-run like a impending wall...he also versed the russians in the world champions but it got too crazy for him regarding hitmen and death threats...he eventually broke off and became a recluse I think in Paris, France or Italy or something...not sure...??

Anyways I believe I was quite good at taekwondo as well as a kid especially in sparring...but it changed during Mauy Thai when I grew up...

Back in school I wasn't one of the best, but I had my moments...for lunch time rugby I was an overlooked player, since the people getting points get all the glory, I was above average on takedowns for defense, unfortuantely I wasn't good at offense because I never played footy where I would learn good evasive maneuvers to get around people...most of the time I'd just try to hit them dead on as hard as I could so hopefully they would think twice about tackling me...when it came to Basketball I wasn't that bad, I wasn't a great shooter till I grew up more, but a few times I surprised myself by stealing the ball off a really good top amateur league player...so in that respect I also was better at defending...A few other times I surprised myself like in indoor soccer for gym class I had a streak of greatness, the teacher actually had to join the opposing team to try to defend against me...he nicknamed me "the rock" ha ha ha...and around the same time I also done a good job at indoor kick to kick, where I would mark the ball as often as the "cool" kids/jocks...I was really surprised there, as I'm s**t at catching.



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07 May 2016, 3:55 pm

This is a message to all parents like me who have a child diagnosed with aspergers and who are wondering if their child could be good at sport as all specialised doctors and websites for aspergers mention the problem of coordination, lack of social skills etc.

Well, this is the story of Aaron, my son, who was diagnosed with aspergers when he was six years old. At the start, his repetitive behaviour, his lack of high contact, his anxiety with changes led us to consult our local GP. We have four kids but Aaron was different, he could not understand indirect messages such as expressions, he could not read people's facial expressions etc. After a 10 minutes visit our local GP said that Aaron was fine and that we were over anxious parents and that there was nothing wrong with him. But with time and in comparison to his siblings it became more and more obvious that Aaron was not a typical functioning six year old child. After a long battle through the medical world, we finally managed to get him assessed by a group of child psycholgists in the UK specialised in children with autism. And the diagnosis came without much doubt.

Although the fact that Aaron was diagnosed with aspergers did not bother me at all, it helped us a lot to explain to family and friends that Aaron 's behaviour was not just due to the fact that he was badly behaved or spoilt or that we were bad parents but that he just did not understood the world in the same way as most of us. At that time we moved to France, a country lagging behind in terms of accepting and understanding kids with autism. So we decided not to label Aaron as an asperger kid but to treat him in the same way as any of our other children. He is a high achieving child and I did not want to limit his experiences just on the basis that he has aspergers. I thought that when problems arose we would deal with them. We registered him at a local soccer club where at the start he stood out with his mannerisms and way of walking. He could not get too close to the other kids, he felt uncomfortable. We did not say anything to the coach or to other parents and something truly amazing happened. Quite rapidly Aaron developed tactics to adjust to his environment. He learnt French and English expressions by heart with their definition and each time something did not make sense he guessed that this was likely to be an expression and even started to use them. He did the same with facial expressions and I worked daily with him to look at people in the eyes when he spoke as not looking in the eyes in a social environment was too much of a weird thing to do.

With soccer, in a same way he developed an above average ability through obsessive behaviour. Initially he stood out as he had an extremelly advanced theoretical understanding of the game. At an age when most kids can only look at their feet, he could position himself in parts of the pitch where there was no one and so he could cover the balls when the others could not. He said to me that he saw the game from a birds eye view and during matches he could see the whole distribution of his team mates across the field like on the playstation! Then everyday he worked out new skills and practiced things that he saw on the internet. Then in some competitions there were skills tests like juggling or precision shots and he won several of them to the great astonishment of the other parents who thought at the time that he must have been lucky. Slowly but surely he became more confident and dominant in the team by the way he plays but he was still very quiet and good at listening to instructions which is a trait appreciated by coaches. He decided that he wanted to become a professional soccer player and in the last couple of years, he has worked very hard at it. His progress are amazing and he has now become really popular with his team mates. [You can see his video on Youtube if you google "Sport Guyanais U10 Aaron Gozlan Football (8 years)"].

Aaron still has difficult moments in particular at home but he works really hard to adjust and fit in. He still has a unique vision of the world, which is refreshing for us and his siblings. We keep not labelling him as asperger as where we are now living autistic kids are not accepted in mainstream society even if they do not need any help to adjust. That is the way it is. We have not even told Aaron as until now he has found his own way of coping and he is pretty successful at it. He now speaks two languages, does high level sports competition and...has quite a few friends.

So from my own experience, the capacity of some asperger kids to find their own solutions to problems they are facing daily is limitless. It has been an extraordinary journey to see our child, removing one by one all the barriers and fears we as parents had put on him and on his future.



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07 May 2016, 4:27 pm

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Lionel Messi who was chosen the best football player of World Cup 2014


He's Aspergers ??



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07 May 2016, 4:29 pm

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what is the story with Messi? From what I understand, there was a rumor that he is an aspie started by an Argentinian coach who knew him or something like that. As far as I can tell, there is no official word, though I do strongly suspect it is true. From the look in his eye to the way he moves and single handedly does exactly what he needs to do in order to win. Not that I follow Messi strongly or think that I am as good as him, I think I have a very similar way of playing. I have horrible defensive awareness, and when not on the ball, I don't intrude into others personal space and shy away from the game at times. When on the attack, I sneak around and through the defense and have a very clear idea of exactly what needs to be done in order to score. I'm terrible at marking players in defense but I'm also impossible to mark on the attack, focused only on scoring. I'm enjoying the 5-a-side I play at the moment, I do wish I could make a comeback to the outdoor game but at 23 and with no social connections to vouch for me, I don't think I would be picked to play in local club teams and all the 'humaning' that would come along with it.



Forget playing 11 a side football , try 5 a side or 7 a side football - amazing ! !



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19 May 2016, 2:57 pm

I wonder does there are aspies athletes to compete on normal sport events not just Paralympic, but the real Olympic Games :D And winning and showing that Aspies are better than NTs ;)

I wonder does there any aspie on Mundial (Soccer World Cap) or in American Football (Super Bowl)

BTW i recently come across with interview with young skateboarder Jagger Eaton, in my opinion the boy on 100 % is aspie , maybe ADHD but he's certainly not NT's :D

See for yourself :D



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13 Jun 2016, 5:34 am

This is the boy i was talking about, does he not like a little bit Aspie for you? :mrgreen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eQGUhLVYIU



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21 Jun 2016, 8:05 am

I am an Self Diagnosed Aspie. I have bee 100 percent sure for about 2 days after about 60 pages of The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome by Tony Attwood ( I have since finished). My strongest special interest is in becoming Perfect both physically and mentally. This influences pretty much all of my other special interests which are roughly 20 or so. I get the impression this is a large amount but the book was unspecific regarding any common number. Sorry kind of irrelevant. Among them the 4 most heavily adhere to are, in order, Basketball, Martial Arts, Reading Fantasy (need a Mary sue character or exceptionally strong), and League of Legends. Like the first poster I am pretty absurd in all. Although in Basketball I find can also be wildly inconsistant. I find that it is stress that prevents me from playing at my normal level. It helps to give myself positive self talk, remember what I can do when I am locked in, and move as fast as possible(its hard to worry and run at the same time). I am amazingly confident alone but because of my interactions with people I have very low confidence when around people. When I am locked in my shot is a rival to Stephen Curry. I can shoot from half court at about a 60% clip when practicing alone. And I have developed a special shot I can take running away from the basket and jumping on to my right leg and shoot as I'm turning. I can take that shot at 3 point range at a 90% clip (guarded or not) and up to the white line near half court 65-70 % unguarded and roughly 50 % while guarded. I am also a prolific defender and have success on people up to 6'6" even in the post (I am 5'9"). I also showed similar success in football. Although I specialized in WR on offense and MLB on D although I have since lost interest. Although I had a remarkable ability to catch the ball one handed or even being able to twist my body midair to catch balls thrown up to 2 1/2 - 3 feet behind me. Really would like to talk to any others with an interest in Basketball.



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21 Jun 2016, 9:34 am

AesirLynMakt wrote:
I am an Self Diagnosed Aspie. I have bee 100 percent sure for about 2 days after about 60 pages of The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome by Tony Attwood ( I have since finished). My strongest special interest is in becoming Perfect both physically and mentally. This influences pretty much all of my other special interests which are roughly 20 or so. I get the impression this is a large amount but the book was unspecific regarding any common number. Sorry kind of irrelevant. Among them the 4 most heavily adhere to are, in order, Basketball, Martial Arts, Reading Fantasy (need a Mary sue character or exceptionally strong), and League of Legends. Like the first poster I am pretty absurd in all. Although in Basketball I find can also be wildly inconsistant. I find that it is stress that prevents me from playing at my normal level. It helps to give myself positive self talk, remember what I can do when I am locked in, and move as fast as possible(its hard to worry and run at the same time). I am amazingly confident alone but because of my interactions with people I have very low confidence when around people. When I am locked in my shot is a rival to Stephen Curry. I can shoot from half court at about a 60% clip when practicing alone. And I have developed a special shot I can take running away from the basket and jumping on to my right leg and shoot as I'm turning. I can take that shot at 3 point range at a 90% clip (guarded or not) and up to the white line near half court 65-70 % unguarded and roughly 50 % while guarded. I am also a prolific defender and have success on people up to 6'6" even in the post (I am 5'9"). I also showed similar success in football. Although I specialized in WR on offense and MLB on D although I have since lost interest. Although I had a remarkable ability to catch the ball one handed or even being able to twist my body midair to catch balls thrown up to 2 1/2 - 3 feet behind me. Really would like to talk to any others with an interest in Basketball.


I wonder how many sportsman or sportswoman for that matter had Asperger Syndrome?
I read that Leo Messi from FC Barcelona had Asperger :D
http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/77 ... of-autism/



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21 Jun 2016, 9:57 am

Pro's
zen-like single-minded focus
stubborn determination / doesn't know when to quit
breaks a complicated situation, down to simple parts
builds systems / finds the pattern
occasional lack of social apprehension

Con's
don't want to jump in the air (for emotion's sake) or hug you
offbeat fashion sense
viscous disdain for pedantism

Many of us would make for intimidating athletes, out of pure inertia, meaning no harm or ill-will toward anyone. I think our minds work like those performance video's, where people scrutinize every detail, that would lead to better performance.

I am looking at these con's, feeling that none of them are even substantial.

But, there is a problem with my natural inclinations, here:
athletes are adamant celebrities and spokespeople, more than anything.

I was told that I was physically-overqualified, required an entourage, and was supposed to be using a consumer product, for over a year.

But, physically-overqualified.

You see, the problem was not athleticism.



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30 Mar 2017, 4:19 pm

Tasmanaut wrote:
Hello all,
I received my official diagnosis today... Long story for some other time perhaps. I've been worked up all day and I can't sleep, so I've signed up just now hoping to satisfy a curious question that's nagging away.

During the assessment today, I mentioned the sports I play and was asked about them. As much as I dislike some of the people that play sports, their attitudes and the social situations they lead to, I have always loved playing sports, and without bragging TOO much, I've always been up there with the best at whatever it is that I did. I was the fastest sprinter in school athletics (no good over distance :P), I started playing soccer and was a great winger with a powerful shot. I played cricket and was an extremely fast bowler as well.
I would practice by myself or with my little brother all day, every day, until after dark. A bunch of awkward situations eventually occurred and I started to hate the aggressive attitudes of people that I encountered so I gave up all sports to concentrate on my musical hobbies.

I started playing indoor soccer or futsal a while ago and I'm having a blast with that. Last year I started playing lawn bowls, similar sort of story there, gave it up to avoid certain people. Just recently, I started playing bowls again after much procrastination, and I've since gone on to win the club championship for pairs with another man who has been friendly towards me and taken me under his wing. I also study T'ai chi ch'uan and have an interest in martial arts.

On to the point I suppose... The Doc was surprised to hear that I was actually good at sports, I am the first example he has heard about. I can find very little online about famous aspie athletes, other than that it is apparently something we don't tend to be very good at, especially team sports. While I do have issues with the social aspects of team sports, the coordination aspects I've never had any worries with, in fact quite the opposite. I am extremely clumsy around home, I walk clumsily and bump things, spill things and generally fumble my way through life. I do have times during a game of something where I'm hopeless, clumsy and generally poor all round, but then the 'hyper-focus' kicks in, and I become unstoppable. I can be extremely inconsistent, but can generally be counted on to do something amazing at least a few times per game. I would be very interested to hear from anyone else that is an aspie and is also a decent athlete or sportsperson... Surely I can't be the only one?

I've also been thinking about the concepts of hyper-focus (specifically in relation to the autistic community), the idea of being 'in the zone' and the new term 'flow'. I believe these terms are just describing the same thing. What do you guys think? Do you use any specific technique to get into 'the zone' during sports or some kind of creative activity? I'm working on a way to take that ability that I have to produce these performances and apply that to every day life... Anyway.... It would be really interesting to hear your responses and expand this further


i was 4,8 or 9 when i got mine :alien:



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06 Aug 2017, 11:26 pm

Autistic golfer dreams of Green Jacket

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Golf is among the most solitary of sports, its players engaged in a constant struggle with themselves as they compete against the implacable opponent of par.

But for autistic newly qualified professional Simon Seungmin Lee, it is a way to escape from his enclosed self and engage with the world.

The 20-year-old South Korean, who grew up in the US, has been medically assessed as having the communication skills of a child half his age -- and the socialisation abilities of a 10-month-old baby.

But six years after taking up the clubs, and following five failed attempts, he secured professional status at a Korea PGA trial in May -- one of the few autistic people to do so anywhere in the world.

His next goal is a tour card at the Korea PGA qualifying school in November.

"I love golf," said Lee, who has difficulty speaking and whose mother helped him communicate throughout the interview.

"I want to win the Masters", he added.

At age eight, he was placed in a special education system in the US, where he started playing ice hockey as a sports therapy.

Six years later, he turned to golf, which he had been practising during summer vacations.

Autistic golfers are not completely unprecedented. Moe Norman, who won 55 Canadian Tour and other Canadian events from the 1950s to the 1970s, is believed to have suffered from the disorder. A metronomically reliable hitter of the ball, he has been described as "a supernaturally gifted yet cruelly misunderstood athlete".

But Lee's autism may act as an advantage in competition, he said, when pressure can adversely affect performance.

"Unlike ordinary athletes, he is not so tense in matches and his concentration remains high throughout a round," Kim said.


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07 Aug 2017, 10:06 pm

I take tennis lesson on Saturdays. I enjoy them a lot and am steadily improving.



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06 Nov 2017, 1:29 am

Scott Garcia mountain climber

Autistic Colorado man tackles 14ers across the stateAutistic Colorado man tackles 14ers across the state

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When Scott Garcia sets out to hike up some of Colorado’s highest peaks, the trail to the top starts with extreme focus, a keen way with memorizing maps and numbers and a passion to get closer to the two people he loves most.

Garcia, 24, has a hard time with any kind of change, but when he focuses on something, it becomes his main thing in life.

“That’s what being autistic does,” said Garcia, of Pueblo, Colorado.

“It makes me shy. It is very easy to like stay focused and just to focus on my goals.”

Garcia, in a sense, has used characteristics caused by autism to summit 31 of the states “14ers.”

“Those are peaks above 14,000 feet. There are about 58 in the state of Colorado,” he said.


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