Microsoft announces pilot program to hire people with autism

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06 Jul 2017, 8:25 pm

I can do entirely too much with anything from Microsoft so I've been challenging myself lately hardly running anything of theirs. XenoMind's probably got more interest than me in handling this type of work directly because I've been angling for any way I can work %90+ remotely, in advisory capacities. That's also just if I'm not working adjunct between my contacts in the northwest & more scholarly developers worldwide. For that matter, at the moment I've had more interest coming at me in my ability to apply all this to telecom, smaller enterprises, open source, nonprofits & the like. We can form our own standards & integration groups!

We need many more cohesive means of organization for independent public & academic work in these fields, which calls for funding from the top. For now, real life has me oh so gratefully preoccupied but I have many strings to pull for you guys.


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06 Jul 2017, 8:36 pm

Why is it just tech and computer companies that are hiring autistic people all of a sudden?


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06 Jul 2017, 9:06 pm

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Why is it just tech and computer companies that are hiring autistic people all of a sudden?


Probably because of the stereotype that every autistic that ever lived was a math savant.



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06 Jul 2017, 9:13 pm

...Which does nothing whatsoever, in any way, to help those who are.


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06 Jul 2017, 9:51 pm

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...Which does nothing whatsoever, in any way, to help those who are.

Well, yes, the thing about the savant-autistic is that they may get attention but it's not normal attention, it's more akin to the attention freakshow members get.

Also, if that stereotype was what Microsoft was thinking with their program they're wildly out of times. Savant people do well in new industries where there are no standards, and few established systems (they're usually the ones creating said standards/systems). That was programming about 30 years ago. Now the industry is well matured, there are numerous standards and systems that must be followed. A system is built to reproduce the same results regardless of who the operator is-- a savant will only produce the same results as anyone else in that scenario.



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07 Jul 2017, 12:29 am

XenoMind wrote:
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a fella named "dean betz" [a microsoft exec] attended one of our aspie meetups trolling for talent.

May I ask for some more details? How was he doing it?

he was trolling for comp sci talent among our members, just asking what our educational level was, our occupations. he claimed to be aspie himself. if he was, he was an ace at NT emulation.



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07 Jul 2017, 10:52 am

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Why is it just tech and computer companies that are hiring autistic people all of a sudden?

I think for the same reason why they are so obsessed about LGBT and women in IT. They are doing it only for PR.



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07 Jul 2017, 3:48 pm

auntblabby wrote:
just asking what our educational level was, our occupations

Did he ask about any personal projects of yours?

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he claimed to be aspie himself. if he was, he was an ace at NT emulation.

Just another bandwagon jumper, most likely.



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07 Jul 2017, 3:56 pm

@XenoMind: (on minorities) Yes & no. Did Microsoft respect me on this basis when I worked there? No. Did they benefit from psychoanalyzing everybody? You bet my @$$ they did! It doesn't even matter if one is Aspie, they want just as much & then some from NTs. For us their interests focus infrastructurally, they just fired ~2000 (mostly) NTs from largely marketing because they are nothing but an infrastructure electronics company. So is Apple, like why would I ever buy a Macbook for $5000 when they're practically glued to every third person around me?

Though seriously they don't want any of their own knowledge back from me. :wink:


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07 Jul 2017, 9:23 pm

XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
just asking what our educational level was, our occupations

Did he ask about any personal projects of yours?

only insofar as they were pertinent to Microsoft. otherwise no, he just wanted to know how we could help Microsoft.

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he claimed to be aspie himself. if he was, he was an ace at NT emulation.

Just another bandwagon jumper, most likely.

I don't think I woulda p!ssed on him even if he was on fire. :|



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07 Jul 2017, 9:47 pm

auntblabby wrote:
XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
just asking what our educational level was, our occupations

Did he ask about any personal projects of yours?

only insofar as they were pertinent to Microsoft. otherwise no, he just wanted to know how we could help Microsoft.

XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
he claimed to be aspie himself. if he was, he was an ace at NT emulation.

Just another bandwagon jumper, most likely.

I don't think I woulda p!ssed on him even if he was on fire. :|

Not even if he promised to rollback your Windows 10 to Windows 8 since, well, it's an upgrade...?



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07 Jul 2017, 9:55 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
just asking what our educational level was, our occupations

Did he ask about any personal projects of yours?

only insofar as they were pertinent to Microsoft. otherwise no, he just wanted to know how we could help Microsoft.

XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
he claimed to be aspie himself. if he was, he was an ace at NT emulation.

Just another bandwagon jumper, most likely.

I don't think I woulda p!ssed on him even if he was on fire. :|

Not even if he promised to rollback your Windows 10 to Windows 8 since, well, it's an upgrade...?

mebbe if it was back to 7. ;)



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07 Jul 2017, 10:23 pm

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Why is it just tech and computer companies that are hiring autistic people all of a sudden?


Because there's a false stereotype that people on the spectrum are good at programming. Most people on the spectrum, however, do not program.



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08 Jul 2017, 2:05 am

auntblabby wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
just asking what our educational level was, our occupations

Did he ask about any personal projects of yours?

only insofar as they were pertinent to Microsoft. otherwise no, he just wanted to know how we could help Microsoft.

XenoMind wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
he claimed to be aspie himself. if he was, he was an ace at NT emulation.

Just another bandwagon jumper, most likely.

I don't think I woulda p!ssed on him even if he was on fire. :|

Not even if he promised to rollback your Windows 10 to Windows 8 since, well, it's an upgrade...?

mebbe if it was back to 7. ;)


The entire false dichotomy (I say so because 8.1 was shoddy versioning) gradually being replaced by WSL (Windows Shell for Linux) squashy filesystem bindings, starting with Ubuntu, then Fedora/CentOS starting with 10. A lot of developers have already done most of the work for backports to add all the same things in 7, except sooner or later between 7, 8.X & 10 everyone will have multiple *Nix OS bindings in the same shells provided the language & file sytem binding packs have enough disk space. Right now these things just create a bunch of ext3/4 style metadata (.lnk or whatever) bindings to Windows' user space though already any Windows machine is capable (while being clunky) of natively running anything I have here on my Linux ultrabook.

Making Windows totally obsolete because I have a 100% vanilla copy in here anyway.
@Redmond: Sorry.


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08 Jul 2017, 5:34 am

Chronos wrote:
Because there's a false stereotype that people on the spectrum are good at programming. Most people on the spectrum, however, do not program.

I got an A+ in my college programming class. :D



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08 Jul 2017, 2:00 pm

Knowing programming isn't actually about knowing any particular language everybody, when you know what a construct DOES, that's the programming.


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