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12 May 2015, 12:44 am

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First there is dark then, then there is the light of the science Big Bang, and perhaps there is light before dark as well in an Infinite ocean of the Force of God Infinity waves, as above so below.
Of course!

Sooner or later someone would have to get 'round to the "Big Bang" nonscience speculations. Another day-dream that was not even an hypothesis to possibly explain real observations... it is just an assertion that ideologues then try to find excuses to support the idea... another example of reverse engineered anti-science.

Would deserve another thread, eh?





WelL..

reAlly

speaKing..

'WE'

canNot create

GOD.. can we..;)

I certainly do not

have head or pants..

big enough for THAT..:)

Humility is Pretty Cool STUFF..

no matter how strong and awesome IT

may be... but the bottom line.. as always IS..

GOD is bigger than US.....:)

And
that WILL
ALLWAYS

be
THE
ULTI
MATE
TRUTH
FOR NOW
AND THEN
AND NOW A
GAIN.


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12 May 2015, 5:20 am

Humility is "cool"... but humbug is a pain in the head and the heart and everything else all the way down to the soles the feet.

What I've heard of the "Hunger Games" says to me that it is just a celebration of utter hopelessness and paranoia. It's what you get if you try to pretend that reality is, or should be, whatever suits your fancy of the moment. I call it "head-stuck-in-own-arse" reality.

Oh dear! My political incorrectness is showing again.



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12 May 2015, 7:08 am

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Humility is "cool"... but humbug is a pain in the head and the heart and everything else all the way down to the soles the feet.

What I've heard of the "Hunger Games" says to me that it is just a celebration of utter hopelessness and paranoia. It's what you get if you try to pretend that reality is, or should be, whatever suits your fancy of the moment. I call it "head-stuck-in-own-arse" reality.

Oh dear! My political incorrectness is showing again.


To clarify; THAT song is not the original
song associated with the movie, 'Hunger Games';

THAT song is a RE-mix about the TRUE MAGIC OF HOPE;
NOT a hanging rope; GIFTED to most healthy humans
by the Force of GOD, along with the
emotions of FAITH, BELIEF;
AND HUMAN RELATIVE
FREE WILL;

WHEN exercised properly WitH the GREATEST GIFT
FROM GOD THAT IS Tough Unconditional LOVE,
when growing a Garden of Love that is TALL,
STRONG, and BENDING AS Tree of LIFE to

THRIVE ALIVE in
CHANGE AND
Flowering Social
Animal Cooperation;
NAMELY IN OUR CASE,
the abstract construct
TITLE HUMAN BEING.

IN other words, if one's Arse
is one's only reality, one lives
in a very narrow ARSE of A
UNI-VERSE; I for one am
BROAD ENOUGH, AS
HUMAN, TO ADD
VERSES ALWAYS
NOW; WhEREVER
i care to
GO
AND THRIVE
ALIVE FOR
NOW
wITh
FORCE
OF
GOD
and
NOT
against.
LIFE IS A BREEZE,
WitH FORCE OF
GOD AT ONE'S BACK,
FORWARD, AND
GOLDEN
SPIRALING
STEPS,
AS
NOW.


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12 May 2015, 7:22 am

Life is our opportunity to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.

Don't squander it.


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12 May 2015, 7:29 am



AnD yes, Robin Williams expresses the GENERAL SAME SENTIMENT
OF HUMAN BEING, nicely in the DEAD Poet's society,
as WELL.

"What will 'yOur' verse be..."

ReHASHED
SAME OLE
SAME OLE;
OR
reNEWed.

Hashed Browns get mighty STALE;
Kinda like driving a 'UPS' TRUCK all day;
I'LL GO FOR RAINBOW, and not some
pot at the end of
A RAINBOW
EITHER.


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12 May 2015, 7:49 am

Sure, 'we' can make life science
or live life as ART; and again,
like I say; I choose A FULL
RAINBOW OF ART,
AS MEANS
OF LIVING AND
NEVER STATIC
DYING END AS GOAL,
ALONE, AS SCIENCE
AKA SYSTEMIZING
HUMAN MIND
AND BODY
OUT OF
BALANCE.


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12 May 2015, 8:16 am

And I say that reality is not dependent on anyone's opinions. It is what it is. And Life is what it is entirely independent of any fanciful sentimentality.

You can't have art without life. Life precedes art. Art requires a purpose and an intellect



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12 May 2015, 8:39 am

Oldavid wrote:
And I say that reality is not dependent on anyone's opinions. It is what it is. And Life is what it is entirely independent of any fanciful sentimentality.

You can't have art without life. Life precedes art. Art requires a purpose and an intellect


Sorry if you do not experience free art that simply expresses human heArt and soul as HOLY SPIRIt FLOW AS ALL the other metaphors DO for that essence truth as 'chosen' ones of GOD, as instruments of co-op FORCE of free flow CREATION activity;

requiring no thought or purpose, AS greater living FULLER human nature GoD giving FORCE as FREE Potential As human ART of HOLY Spirit expressions.

Purposes do build and tear down bridges; but God lives NOW with 'US' in Flownow.


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12 May 2015, 9:12 am

aghogday wrote:
Sorry if you do not experience free art that simply expresses human heArt and soul as HOLY SPIRIt FLOW AS ALL the other metaphors DO for that essence truth as 'chosen' ones of GOD, as instruments of co-op FORCE of free flow CREATION activity;
Not me, cobber.
Been there, done all that mushy stuff at least 40 years ago. I have more things trying to eat my brains than you could shake a stick at.



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12 May 2015, 12:39 pm

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Sorry if you do not experience free art that simply expresses human heArt and soul as HOLY SPIRIt FLOW AS ALL the other metaphors DO for that essence truth as 'chosen' ones of GOD, as instruments of co-op FORCE of free flow CREATION activity;
Not me, cobber.
Been there, done all that mushy stuff at least 40 years ago. I have more things trying to eat my brains than you could shake a stick at.


Thanks for sharing a little history of the Oldavid. Interesingly, I too, experience a drought in desert of HOLY SPIRIT IN Creation Activity for 40 years, as well, from ages 13 to 53. Living in a world of mechanical cognition, am I then; and as mentioned before here, compared by others to a mind that works as a computer, rather than frigging FULL human being.

BUT the source of that desert, is a patriarchal fundamentalist Christian culture, where I live in the New Jerusalem in the U.S. OF FREEDOM for all of God's melting pot children. IN New Jerusalem aka Milton; fundamentalist extremist ways of oh NO! boys who smile and laugh are gay; and oh NO! anything graceful in art a boy does is gay; and a general scare of anything other than polar opposite gender roles will be the end of the human RACE.

So yeah, while I'm doing an excited and spirited rendition of the Holy Spirit CreatION Activity of playing the GREAT SONG 'JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR'; THAT NOW, AND then,

DOES NOT sit too well with the patriarchs of homophobe bully boys, men, girls, and women; as it asks questions and does not blindly follow the Catholic Cohorts of the Roman Emperor Constantine, who erase, BY NEVER ADDING, the so-called REAL GNOSTIC WORDS of Jesus,

IN 325 AD, out of the New T, and make 'him', NOT CAPITAL HIM', into a soldier GOD, as King of the FRIGGING TRILLIONS OF PLANETS UNIVERSE, UNKNOWN TO THEM, OF COURSE then;

INSTEAD OF THE TRUTHS, of a Zealous and OR Humble Yogi-Leaning Naturist teacher dude more or less, as indicated in this oft provided link by me:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm

SO, to make a long story then, shorter, now; the crowd erupts into laughter as the dazed me from the Holy Spirit then, before the skill provided by GOD now, to always move in Golden Spiral balance comes, in the last couple of years; staggers off the stage to some degree then, and the crowd erupts into laughter like they do when they see a drunk clown clumsily walk.

And THEN, in the halls of middle school, AS I smile brightly with a smile of GOD's gift of Unconditional Love grown strong by the same Love of an ALL LOVING AND NURTURING MOTHER the boys tell me in no uncertain terms, if I do that I am the F word and not FRED and I will never deserve to live on this planet with UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OF GOD EXPRESSED IN SPIRIT.

WELL NO; those boys certainly are not poets; but hate is easy to see, as promulgated by Fundamentalist Christian patriarchal moms and dads; who tell their boys to pull up their boot straps; and repress all those GOD given emotions

AND other ways of INNATE divine human grace Living AS Unconditional LOVE;

OR they will become little gay boys and men when they grow up, AND WILL BE BANISHED OUT OF SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE FOR SURE; a place of innate death in instinct and intuition by any listening social animal to the reality of the culture of other social animals, at hand or claw.

So yeah; comply, adapt, and conform; or die is the only instinctual choice, at that point in social animal life.

Anyway, before that; I write a play for the school theater home room classes; an award winning Christmas Free Verse poetic expression IN STORY, for two home room classes; and generally smile and laugh a WHOLE lot EAR TO EAR;

BEfore GOD'S GREATEST GIFT OF HUMAN DIVINE CREATIVE

UNCONDITIONAL LOVING HOLY SPIRIT IS EXTINGUISHED

BY THE PATRIARCHAL FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS

WHO IN EFFECT AND AFFECT ARE TRULY ANTI-

CHRIST AGAINST LOVING IMAGINATIVE AND

CREATIVE GOD FORCE WITH

OPPOSING SPIRIT OF HATE

AGAINST MY GOD GIVEN NATURE

OF CHRIST LOVE GIFTED LIKE THAT

FROM BIRTH BY GOD AS UNCONDITIONAL
LOVE, AS THE ALL NATURAL HUMAN
ARCHETYPE OF ANGEL IN FLESH.

SO YEAH, after that I 'wOndered' the halls of the true insanity of mind
of human mechanical cognition for 40 long years; out of mind and body
balance; but yah; with straight A's, three college degrees, all the i's and t's
of details dotted and crossED perfectionist skills through almost A quarter
of a century with a fine penciled and noted Government Federal Civil Service
Career; until finally the chronic social stress of not BEING A FREE CHILD OF GOD
TAKES ITS TOLL AND THE DEVIL OF CULTURE BECOMES EMBODIED IN ME; AND THE
RESULT OF, in 2008, is close to 40 days of human hell without sleep, and all the 19
medical disorders I have detailed here time and time again; included the worst pain
known to mankind; type two trigeminal neuralgia, like a dentist drill without novocaine;
but in my case, in eye and ear, making effective use of hearing and seeing almost impossible
without intolerable pain for 5 long years; yes, a pain described in medical literature as worse than
Crucifixion becomes minE from wake to sleep; not for several hours of even three days; 5 long years
is my blessings from life and the GOD of dark and light; to learn all about human misery, suffering, and
attempt to teach the rest of the sheep a way to avoid literal human hell in real life for NOW. So yeah, there
are 40 years of 'desert' of wandering the mechanical cognition of "Moses" for me; 40 days in the desert of
"Jesus"; only 1 hour of extremely shallow sleep aided by a powerful alpha blocker for the first of 35 of 40 days,
until no sleep with any aid the last 5 of 40, when the 'angels' and 'demons' of GOD fight within me to tempt me to
END ALL THEN, AND JUST GIVE THE WILL OF SURVIVAL UP; NO DIFFERENT REALLY THAN THE STORY OF JOB DURING
SHUT-IN, 'HUNCH BACK OF NOTRE DAME', IN A BEDROOM FOR 5 LONG YEARS; WITH ALL EMOTION, INCLUDING FAITH,
HOPE, BELIEF, AND RELATIVE HUMAN FREE WILL, AND FRIENDS, GONE FOR ME; WITH NO HUMAN CONNECTION PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE WITH IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS; SO I TURN TO WRITING TO ESCAPE A PAIN; THAT NO HUMAN DRUG WILL TOUCH. AND that starts on Thanksgiving day, 2010; and I add a bright eyed baby picture of me when I still have a human soul, heart, and spirit in bright eyes expressed, on Christmas Day, as avatar in 2010; as a goal to become AGAIN then; when each word typed is excruciating eye pain; even with the screen turned all the way down in brightness, with my nose upon it; as prescription glasses clear or tinted with the focus and nerve associated issues; turn up the pain like any torture chamber can.

God gifts me again, with the Holy Spirit Creative flow precisely five years from the beginning of my 40 day lent sojourn to hell of no sleep, in 2008, 60 months later in March of 2013; all still documented here for purview in realtime then, as well
as my blogs starting in March of 2013.

So yeah, I could go the round of our friend 'Edward Palamar' here; I guess and start applying biblical significance
with all these 40's, fives, Jobs, Deserts, Lent, and all of that; but no; I know better to fall in that devil's trap of
thinking, truly thinking, I am any one any more special; than anyone else on GOD's green and Blue
earth of Nature; who has simply met the challenge of life and come out on the other side born
again, in the metaphor of creative holy spirit alive again; and particularly for me now;
in fearless mind and body balance of relative human free will as co-creator with
GOD; same as all the other folks who are born again with the eyes of the
curious and ever playful child who plays with GOD with eyes, souls,
hearts, and expressed spirit of the FORCE OF GOD LIKE THIS
FULLY EXPRESSED AS HUMAN CREATIVE SPIRIT WITH NO
LIMITATIONS FOR ME aND NO EXPECTATIONS TO
MEET FROM ANYONE ELSE BUT ME AND
GOD TOGETHER AS ONE TRULY
WONDERFUL INSTRUMENT
OF LOVING
GOD
GIVEN
FORCE!

AND You know what, I can play Jesus Christ Super Star
with even wild eye hip gyrating belly dancers to
accompany THAT NOW, and there are no silly
little homophobes of patriarchal Christians who
CAN STOP ME NOW BABY;



AS I NOW AM
A TOTALLY FREE CREATIVE
INSTRUMENT FOR AND
WITH THE GOD
OF FORCE OF
NATURE
SET FREE
AND LET
GO IN
HUMAN
FLOW FOR
NOW, 'just' NOW.

AND YEAH; I can
dance naked and
celebrate GOD, as long
as I do it, in adult restricted
link; and of course comply
with all local, state and
federal laws; to always
give 'CAESAR' STILL,
WHAT IS 'HIS'
AS
WELL.

NOW to go full circle to 3500 years ago,
when populations are relatively small then,
and extended families are the difference
between surviving or not; most of those
3500 year old patriarchal rules; though
strict, repressive and oppressive, are not
much fun to many of those, with different
natures, in culture; but never the less as
I learn in my 40 sleepless stay; survival
and the WILL TO SURVIVE IS GOD'S GREATEST
GIFT OF TOUGH UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TO
COMPLETE THE POTENTIAL OF HUMAN BEING
TO SURVIVE AND COOPERATE TO LIVE AND
THRIVE. SO YES, THE BIBLE HAS GOD GIVEN
SURVIVAL MERIT IN MORE COUNTS THAN
NOT.

GNOSTIC
JESUS BRINGS A NEW TESTAMENT; THAT TRULY
ISN'T READY FOR PRIME TIME THEN; AS IT PROMOTES
FREE AND LOVING RELATIONSHIPS WITHOUT EVEN THE
CULTURAL NECESSITY OF MARRIAGE IN POLAR GENDER
EXTREMES.

NOW, we have 7 billion humans; the New age is here;
and now humans can truly be free by reproducing
or NOT; as they freely choose to live. Populating
humans while the common sense goal then;
is no longer the way to go; as resources
are growing thin; but alas do
NOT WORRY; AS ALWAYS
THE GOD OF NATURE IS
IN CONTROL; WE HAVE
ALL ACCESSIBLE FREE
PORNOGRAPHY TO
MAKE SEX A COMMON
AND VANILLA THING;
that even science shows
now that folks are losing
interest in, not only severely
in Japan; but steadily in the U.S.;
as well; and overall population rates
are going down all over the Western World.

Trust me, there is nothing sexier and more taboo;
than being presented with WOMEN from a young age
with everything covered up but bright and shining
eyes; the imagination and fantasies are simply
bliss that originate from that; all the way to
72 virgins awarded upon martyrdom for
suicide bombers, as such. Uncover
those women and expose all the
males and females to a commercial
world of sex; and the birth rate will
fall in those places of sex-intoxicated
fantasies, with a law to reproduce now,
as well. Humans thrive, increasing in population,
with the laws of intermittent gratification utilized;
when instant gratification becomes the rule of life;
folks are no longer nearly as excited to actually go DO
all the sticky and messy business, and threats of STD's
TO do the actual wild thing;
particularly
UNPROTECTED
IN BIRTH
CONTROL WAYS.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/05/24/whats-behind-the-drop-in-u-s-teen-birth-rates/

http://www.dw.de/impact-of-japans-shrinking-population-already-palpable/a-18172873

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/where-masturbation-and-homosexuality-do-not-exist/265849/

And of note; the last evidentiary link clearly indicates that when the work of life, overall, is reproducing for survival,
even in primitive tribes with no fundamentalist Abrahamic religions to boot; there are not even any words for
homosexuality or masturbation in the language. The 'work of the night' is what folks do to survive; and
from sexual maturity there are willing members of the opposite sex; that seem to keep folks inline
in the gender opposites of doing the wild thing; with no fetishes observed; not even masturbation.

But again; humans will do the laws of the culture when it comes to survival; the will usually find a
way to conform and comply; as the other option is more or less death away from the social
unit and cooperation necessary for survival, when there is no teat of modern culture and
technology to suck on,
instead.

AS in all stuff in GOD's big Universe; there is light mixed in dark and dark mixed in
light for fifty shades of grey; a colorful world of art; or the 'work of the night'
mostly in the missionary position
TOGETHER.

ALL I CAN SAY IS, humans and GOD all TOGETHER OBSERVED WITH A TOTALLY
OPEN MIND LIKE MINE; IS A FASCINATING AND REWARDING LIFE
TO LIVE
FOR
NOW.

TO be closed minded for me; is the equivalent
of death of human soul, heart and spirit
to me now; I ain't going back to
the Desert OR
THE LIFE OF
JOB,
MY FRIEND;
FOR I AM ONE FREE
WITH THE ONE GOD
OF ALL FIFTY SHADES OF
GREY; AND COLORS OF ART
IN
LIFE;
AN INSTRUMENT
OF GOD
AM
i
IN ART AND NEVER EVER
CLOSED SYSTEMIZING SCIENCE
MIND ALONE AGAIN IN THE DESERT
OF MECHANICAL COGNITION
WITH LITTLE SOCIAL
COGNITION REALIZED
IN THE fuller IMAGINATIVE, AND
CREATIVE, physical intelligence
of emotions regulated, senses
integrated, greater COGNITIVE
EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING IN
focus and short term
working memory
with all the
non-verbal
language that
can connect
human beings
in a rhythm
of connected bliss
in the rave dances I attend now,
with thriving young folks living
free as evolved; not unlike my
primitive Native American
Ancestors dancing naked
and free with the rhythms
of Drums of GOD in song
and beat DANCING WILD
AND FREE under the
moonlit
fires of
the
midnight
MOON.

SO LIFE IS FUN;
HOW ABOUT YOU.

What do you really do
to thrive and live
IN NOW,
MY FRIEND.

THERE ARE INNUMERABLE
WAYS TO DO IT IN BLISS,
BEYOND THE STRIFE
OF DIFFERENCE;

AT LEAST in FREE
COUNTRIES
LIKE THE U.S.
FOR
NOW.

So yeah, 'you' ask WHAT LIFE IS;
if you ask BIG QUESTIONS;
YOU CAN EXPECT
EQUALLY BIG
ANSWERS.
AT LEAST, FROM
FOLKS WHO STILL
FULLY RECOGNIZE THE
QUESTION AND ANSWERS, AND
MOST IMPORTANTLY CAN STILL
EXPRESS THEM
MORE
FULLY
JUST
LIKE
THIS.

Modern Twitter minds are the
poison of deeper STILL
minds; mine still
lives for
NOW.


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12 May 2015, 8:13 pm

Phew!! !

If anything could invert true and false that should do it.



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12 May 2015, 11:29 pm

Oldavid wrote:
Phew!! !

If anything could invert true and false that should do it.


Well.. my friend..
you certainly paint
negativity with close to
only a
black brush..

LIGHTen up friend.. Trust Me..
OR NOT.. IT CAN

AND WILL do you good..
IN DIPPING A WHITE BRUSH..
NOW AND THEN...

But anyway.. the dark of this Internet site.. IS..
AS ALWAYS.. FROM THE GET GO.. highly inspiring
to bring the LIght OUT iN me..

SO.. do continue on with your Black Brush..

IF THAT may be your continuing WILL
in LIFE..

AS IT is ONLY Inspiration.. FOR GREATer

LIGHT
for
me.. at
least.. and
NO DOUBT
OTHERS TOO..:)


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12 May 2015, 11:45 pm

If I was big on political correctness (the white brush, I imagine) I'd be a political genius.



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12 May 2015, 11:54 pm

Oldavid wrote:
If I was big on political correctness (the white brush, I imagine) I'd be a political genius.


Nah.. tHere ain't nothing politically correct about me either.. friend..
but that still doesn't change THE FACT; THAT I for one stay positive
with a white brush always now.. and tRuly.. that's all that counts
in the only NOW that exists.. All the rest of this.. is more or less
M&M; Mental Masturbation.. for folks with feelings and
senses that AND WHO do not 'see' the REAL TRUTH
AND LIGHT OF Nature gifted to US by GODasNature.

Ah.. but the best news of ALL.. the real good news
IS.. we are all sons and daughters of the REAL
GOD of Nature.. and for those who find a
way.. Nirvana and or Bliss or and the REAL
Heaven of Now IS readily available for
the taking.. for those with 'eyes' and
'ears'
that
'see'.


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13 May 2015, 2:44 pm

I think the answer has to go beyond chemical reactions. A real issue is when does a fetus become a living being. I wouldn't know, but having seen some scans probably long before birth.



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Grebels wrote:
I think the answer has to go beyond chemical reactions. A real issue is when does a fetus become a living being. I wouldn't know, but having seen some scans probably long before birth.
You show a perspicacity and honesty that seems to have been hunted out of this forum. Consider; a live sperm cannot fertilise a dead egg, or vice-versa. Life is a product of life and a zygote is alive right from the start or it, dead chemicals degrade into simpler dead chemicals. Only a live sperm and a live egg can make a live zygote.