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27 May 2015, 2:26 am

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I don't understand what posing as a stripper/porn star on a sex oriented chat site has to do with my original post.


Do I sound like a nice guy there? Let me explain you why it is very relevant to your thread.

A porn actor (or stripper or escort) is perceived as an alpha male, a male who is sexually experienced and perceived as hot in society and physically highly desired, check their responses and their reactions.
In many species, this how females determine an alpha, when they see a male surrounded by females, they will go for this one, it is called copycat mating.


And you see that a lot in my thread - "You surely f**k a lot of women :$" - "Wow you must be desired :$" , I get a lot of those while doing this prank. Women in general, respect men who are desired by a lot of women, even if these men are actually sluts.


Such social experiments, where you see genuine female responses rather than playing the ideal pesona....like the way we see it on forums :lol: , they are way more reflective of the truth of women behind the door than what all WP ladies claim combined.

The Stud/Slut double standard (and as you can see, most women see the slut equivalent of man as stud) has a lot to do with the attraction of women toward the alpha and the copycat thing, in my thread you see the general female response to the Stud/Slut-man.

And you will see even more in my next wave of screenshots.

I am gonna expose your true fantasies, females of earth. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I believe though that your experiment suffers from a phenomena known as "sample bias". You are posing as a stripper on an adult (sexually) oriented chat site, so one would expect the individuals on that website to be more inclined to see a male stripper or porn star as a positive thing.





Are you WP girls all clones here? You are all replying with this "sample bias" bullcrap. :lol: And what about you, WP aspie women, are you the true representative sample of women? :lol:

Why statistically-wise, I should dismiss the responses of these women and listen to the few of you instead?

Skout is not a sexually-oriented chat app at all, what makes you think it its?

Tinder is not a sexually-oriented chat app as it many think here, it is not really equivalent to its gay version, most women there make it clear on their profiles that they are not looking for hook up, it is dating what they have in mind.

I mean, as I said there, these are not selective screenshots, these are 30 women in row (and there will be more, it is a continuous thread) i chatted with from various places of the world and putting their responses there whatever their response was.

You think it's all coincidence? That most of their reactions were positive to my pornactor/escort claim?

Or it is reflective of your true desires when you are in your bedrooms?


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Two, the normal male is not an alpha male by any definition of the word. He is normal.


and normal is seen as boring by most.

I did this prank even way before starting to take screenshots and even among those screenshots, I am not showing the NSFW responses that progressed later (ie. pics, sexting, extreme sexual requests...etc) - if you wanna see them in pm, just ask me.

I have seen housewives, girls with bfs who claim to love their bfs but yet got so turned on , girls who are dating guys and telling me they wish to replace the guy they're seeing....

The monogamous marriage system is making it impossible for all women to get alphas, because as you said, most males are normal, but that doesn't mean they don't desire them anymore.



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27 May 2015, 2:46 am

No, you need to challenge these sorts of people on their nonsense. We shouldn't have people going around falsely accusing every man and his dog of rape or misogyny, even more so for people on the spectrum, as we're quite easily seen as "being creepy" or having "rape face". Any time you leave people to their nonsense, and don't challenge them on it, they just propagate their BS. The same goes for stigmatising people based on nonsense, that are already stigmatised.

The problem of systemic feminism isn't going to go away, if you just shuffle it under the rug and forget the unfounded hatred exists.



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27 May 2015, 3:08 am

And btw Chronos, that quick assumption from you and from the other WP women here that I am doing this experiment on "on an adult (sexually) oriented chat site" - really reflect the common double standard slut-shaming in society, and this something that not only men toward women are guilty of but also women toward other women.

You might that it is not slut-shaming, but think of it, you just did subconsciously, just because these women showed easiness toward a persona perceived as alpha (not my real persona) then you quickly assumed these women as easy and they're on an sex app to be easy, right? right?

WRONG.

First, it is not a sex app.

Second, these are normal women and most with normals jobs who were laying in bed or on couch at home and it just happens I discover a magical way to turn them on insanely.


And what's funny, many of those who would slut-shame in public eventually reveal their true desires behind the door.



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27 May 2015, 5:08 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:


I don't understand what posing as a stripper/porn star on a sex oriented chat site has to do with my original post.


Do I sound like a nice guy there? Let me explain you why it is very relevant to your thread.

A porn actor (or stripper or escort) is perceived as an alpha male, a male who is sexually experienced and perceived as hot in society and physically highly desired, check their responses and their reactions.
In many species, this how females determine an alpha, when they see a male surrounded by females, they will go for this one, it is called copycat mating.


And you see that a lot in my thread - "You surely f**k a lot of women :$" - "Wow you must be desired :$" , I get a lot of those while doing this prank. Women in general, respect men who are desired by a lot of women, even if these men are actually sluts.


Such social experiments, where you see genuine female responses rather than playing the ideal pesona....like the way we see it on forums :lol: , they are way more reflective of the truth of women behind the door than what all WP ladies claim combined.

The Stud/Slut double standard (and as you can see, most women see the slut equivalent of man as stud) has a lot to do with the attraction of women toward the alpha and the copycat thing, in my thread you see the general female response to the Stud/Slut-man.

And you will see even more in my next wave of screenshots.

I am gonna expose your true fantasies, females of earth. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I believe though that your experiment suffers from a phenomena known as "sample bias". You are posing as a stripper on an adult (sexually) oriented chat site, so one would expect the individuals on that website to be more inclined to see a male stripper or porn star as a positive thing.





Are you WP girls all clones here? You are all replying with this "sample bias" bullcrap. :lol: And what about you, WP aspie women, are you the true representative sample of women? :lol:

Why statistically-wise, I should dismiss the responses of these women and listen to the few of you instead?

Skout is not a sexually-oriented chat app at all, what makes you think it its?

Tinder is not a sexually-oriented chat app as it many think here, it is not really equivalent to its gay version, most women there make it clear on their profiles that they are not looking for hook up, it is dating what they have in mind.

I mean, as I said there, these are not selective screenshots, these are 30 women in row (and there will be more, it is a continuous thread) i chatted with from various places of the world and putting their responses there whatever their response was.

You think it's all coincidence? That most of their reactions were positive to my pornactor/escort claim?

Or it is reflective of your true desires when you are in your bedrooms?


Quote:
Two, the normal male is not an alpha male by any definition of the word. He is normal.


and normal is seen as boring by most.

I did this prank even way before starting to take screenshots and even among those screenshots, I am not showing the NSFW responses that progressed later (ie. pics, sexting, extreme sexual requests...etc) - if you wanna see them in pm, just ask me.

I have seen housewives, girls with bfs who claim to love their bfs but yet got so turned on , girls who are dating guys and telling me they wish to replace the guy they're seeing....

The monogamous marriage system is making it impossible for all women to get alphas, because as you said, most males are normal, but that doesn't mean they don't desire them anymore.


Et tu, Boo?

It's true that I've been gone for a while, and people change, but I had always held you in high regard, and I am dismayed to see that you have become a person who has resigned themselves to personal attacks against me and fellow Aspergians who happen to be female. I will answer your questions and then I will leave, as I see that this place is still the same bastion of bitterness and hostility towards women that it was when I left the first time.

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Skout is not a sexually-oriented chat app at all, what makes you think it its?


It is not marketed as a sexually oriented chat app, however given the nature of the app, it is certainly likely to attract a large number of people who use it for the purpose of casual sexually oriented hook ups or discussion, much like Craigslist.

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Are you WP girls all clones here? You are all replying with this "sample bias" bullcrap. :lol: And what about you, WP aspie women, are you the true representative sample of women? :lol:


I have not observed any of these conversations you have had with other WP girls, concerning sample bias. I mentioned sample bias because, due to the nature of the app and the fact that such apps tend to attract the more sexually oriented individuals, a sample bias arises.

There are sample biases in all subsets of the population and that is neutralized either partially or fully when the subsets are combined. If your hypothesis was that most women dress for comfort, and your came here to Wrong Planet to take your survey, your survey would likely be prone to a sample bias due to the fact that most women here do seem to prefer to dress for comfort, but that cannot be generalized to the female population as a whole. You would need a more randomized sample including various subsets to make such a determination.

Your assertion that posing as a porn star/stripper attracts the attention of women might hold for your sample biased Skout population, and if those are the types of women you wish to have relationships with, so be it (I must warn you some of them are potentially dangerous) however that does not mean it can be extrapolated to a more generalized population of women, or that a man of such an occupation would find more dates among the general population. I can tell you that porn stars usually date porn stars, in part because most other people do not feel comfortable dating such a person.

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You think it's all coincidence? That most of their reactions were positive to my pornactor/escort claim?

Or it is reflective of your true desires when you are in your bedrooms?


I do not think it's a coincidence because as I said, your population has sample bias. No, I have no desires to date a porn star. I would be concerned over such an individual's moral integrity.

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I have seen housewives, girls with bfs who claim to love their bfs but yet got so turned on , girls who are dating guys and telling me they wish to replace the guy they're seeing....


If you wish to have dealings with such women, that is your choice, however in my opinion, such women are of low moral integrity, and like men of low moral integrity, are potentially dangerous, especially to men on the spectrum who may be easily taken advantage of and exploited or manipulated.

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The monogamous marriage system is making it impossible for all women to get alphas, because as you said, most males are normal, but that doesn't mean they don't desire them anymore.


This is like the notion that most women like sports cars, because men value sports cars. It's false. Men value sports cars and thus rich, ambitious men buy sports cars, and rich ambitious men both pursue women confidently and attract gold diggers or hire escorts, and when the guy standing on the sidewalk sees them drive by, he sees the woman and the car and figures the car attracted the woman because he is attracted to the car.

Most women choose practical cars over sports cars.

To marry, most women would actually choose a normal man over an alpha man by most definitions. The reason for this women understand that alpha men think they can get women of their choice easily, and so he is more likely to be unfaithful or leave her. A normal man, who isn't quite so narcissistic or egotistical, offers her more security.

So there you have it. Yes, you can run with the sexually promiscuous crowd if you want, but you are playing with fire if you do and will likely get burned. It's populated by the crazies you hear horror stories about. By women with borderline personality disorder, the unfaithful, who will cheat on you as fast as they did the other guy, the women who will make false accusations against you and who will drag you into all sorts of drama not even NT men can navigate through unscathed.

Find yourself a woman with some values who you can have a nice life with. She is out there.



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27 May 2015, 6:11 am

Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:


I don't understand what posing as a stripper/porn star on a sex oriented chat site has to do with my original post.


Do I sound like a nice guy there? Let me explain you why it is very relevant to your thread.

A porn actor (or stripper or escort) is perceived as an alpha male, a male who is sexually experienced and perceived as hot in society and physically highly desired, check their responses and their reactions.
In many species, this how females determine an alpha, when they see a male surrounded by females, they will go for this one, it is called copycat mating.


And you see that a lot in my thread - "You surely f**k a lot of women :$" - "Wow you must be desired :$" , I get a lot of those while doing this prank. Women in general, respect men who are desired by a lot of women, even if these men are actually sluts.


Such social experiments, where you see genuine female responses rather than playing the ideal pesona....like the way we see it on forums :lol: , they are way more reflective of the truth of women behind the door than what all WP ladies claim combined.

The Stud/Slut double standard (and as you can see, most women see the slut equivalent of man as stud) has a lot to do with the attraction of women toward the alpha and the copycat thing, in my thread you see the general female response to the Stud/Slut-man.

And you will see even more in my next wave of screenshots.

I am gonna expose your true fantasies, females of earth. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I believe though that your experiment suffers from a phenomena known as "sample bias". You are posing as a stripper on an adult (sexually) oriented chat site, so one would expect the individuals on that website to be more inclined to see a male stripper or porn star as a positive thing.





Are you WP girls all clones here? You are all replying with this "sample bias" bullcrap. :lol: And what about you, WP aspie women, are you the true representative sample of women? :lol:

Why statistically-wise, I should dismiss the responses of these women and listen to the few of you instead?

Skout is not a sexually-oriented chat app at all, what makes you think it its?

Tinder is not a sexually-oriented chat app as it many think here, it is not really equivalent to its gay version, most women there make it clear on their profiles that they are not looking for hook up, it is dating what they have in mind.

I mean, as I said there, these are not selective screenshots, these are 30 women in row (and there will be more, it is a continuous thread) i chatted with from various places of the world and putting their responses there whatever their response was.

You think it's all coincidence? That most of their reactions were positive to my pornactor/escort claim?

Or it is reflective of your true desires when you are in your bedrooms?


Quote:
Two, the normal male is not an alpha male by any definition of the word. He is normal.


and normal is seen as boring by most.

I did this prank even way before starting to take screenshots and even among those screenshots, I am not showing the NSFW responses that progressed later (ie. pics, sexting, extreme sexual requests...etc) - if you wanna see them in pm, just ask me.

I have seen housewives, girls with bfs who claim to love their bfs but yet got so turned on , girls who are dating guys and telling me they wish to replace the guy they're seeing....

The monogamous marriage system is making it impossible for all women to get alphas, because as you said, most males are normal, but that doesn't mean they don't desire them anymore.


Et tu, Boo?

It's true that I've been gone for a while, and people change, but I had always held you in high regard, and I am dismayed to see that you have become a person who has resigned themselves to personal attacks against me and fellow Aspergians who happen to be female. I will answer your questions and then I will leave, as I see that this place is still the same bastion of bitterness and hostility towards women that it was when I left the first time.
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You took this too personal, but you can't deny that people with AS are not representative sample of their own gender, this is all what I am saying.

So you can't say that your words are more representative of the general female population than those skout users, because you are of the minority.

And yes, I have been questioning female individuality's opinions in men recently, it started here:
viewtopic.php?t=285005

and janissy's long post nailed it:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005&start=105

it gave me so much flashback memories and it's all consistent.



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27 May 2015, 7:05 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:


I don't understand what posing as a stripper/porn star on a sex oriented chat site has to do with my original post.


Do I sound like a nice guy there? Let me explain you why it is very relevant to your thread.

A porn actor (or stripper or escort) is perceived as an alpha male, a male who is sexually experienced and perceived as hot in society and physically highly desired, check their responses and their reactions.
In many species, this how females determine an alpha, when they see a male surrounded by females, they will go for this one, it is called copycat mating.


And you see that a lot in my thread - "You surely f**k a lot of women :$" - "Wow you must be desired :$" , I get a lot of those while doing this prank. Women in general, respect men who are desired by a lot of women, even if these men are actually sluts.


Such social experiments, where you see genuine female responses rather than playing the ideal pesona....like the way we see it on forums :lol: , they are way more reflective of the truth of women behind the door than what all WP ladies claim combined.

The Stud/Slut double standard (and as you can see, most women see the slut equivalent of man as stud) has a lot to do with the attraction of women toward the alpha and the copycat thing, in my thread you see the general female response to the Stud/Slut-man.

And you will see even more in my next wave of screenshots.

I am gonna expose your true fantasies, females of earth. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I believe though that your experiment suffers from a phenomena known as "sample bias". You are posing as a stripper on an adult (sexually) oriented chat site, so one would expect the individuals on that website to be more inclined to see a male stripper or porn star as a positive thing.





Are you WP girls all clones here? You are all replying with this "sample bias" bullcrap. :lol: And what about you, WP aspie women, are you the true representative sample of women? :lol:

Why statistically-wise, I should dismiss the responses of these women and listen to the few of you instead?

Skout is not a sexually-oriented chat app at all, what makes you think it its?

Tinder is not a sexually-oriented chat app as it many think here, it is not really equivalent to its gay version, most women there make it clear on their profiles that they are not looking for hook up, it is dating what they have in mind.

I mean, as I said there, these are not selective screenshots, these are 30 women in row (and there will be more, it is a continuous thread) i chatted with from various places of the world and putting their responses there whatever their response was.

You think it's all coincidence? That most of their reactions were positive to my pornactor/escort claim?

Or it is reflective of your true desires when you are in your bedrooms?


Quote:
Two, the normal male is not an alpha male by any definition of the word. He is normal.


and normal is seen as boring by most.

I did this prank even way before starting to take screenshots and even among those screenshots, I am not showing the NSFW responses that progressed later (ie. pics, sexting, extreme sexual requests...etc) - if you wanna see them in pm, just ask me.

I have seen housewives, girls with bfs who claim to love their bfs but yet got so turned on , girls who are dating guys and telling me they wish to replace the guy they're seeing....

The monogamous marriage system is making it impossible for all women to get alphas, because as you said, most males are normal, but that doesn't mean they don't desire them anymore.


Et tu, Boo?

It's true that I've been gone for a while, and people change, but I had always held you in high regard, and I am dismayed to see that you have become a person who has resigned themselves to personal attacks against me and fellow Aspergians who happen to be female. I will answer your questions and then I will leave, as I see that this place is still the same bastion of bitterness and hostility towards women that it was when I left the first time.
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You took this too personal, but you can't deny that people with AS are not representative sample of their own gender, this is all what I am saying.

So you can't say that your words are more representative of the general female population than those skout users, because you are of the minority.

And yes, I have been questioning female individuality's opinions in men recently, it started here:
viewtopic.php?t=285005

and janissy's long post nailed it:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005&start=105

it gave me so much flashback memories and it's all consistent.


I'm of the minority, yes, but I have NT sisters and have been very observant of other women.

Anyway, I forgive you, though I am still leaving. I've said all I have to say on this matter with the first post and I've other things in life I have to get to. I wish you the best in life and that you do find a nice woman someday.



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27 May 2015, 7:12 am

Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:


I don't understand what posing as a stripper/porn star on a sex oriented chat site has to do with my original post.


Do I sound like a nice guy there? Let me explain you why it is very relevant to your thread.

A porn actor (or stripper or escort) is perceived as an alpha male, a male who is sexually experienced and perceived as hot in society and physically highly desired, check their responses and their reactions.
In many species, this how females determine an alpha, when they see a male surrounded by females, they will go for this one, it is called copycat mating.


And you see that a lot in my thread - "You surely f**k a lot of women :$" - "Wow you must be desired :$" , I get a lot of those while doing this prank. Women in general, respect men who are desired by a lot of women, even if these men are actually sluts.


Such social experiments, where you see genuine female responses rather than playing the ideal pesona....like the way we see it on forums :lol: , they are way more reflective of the truth of women behind the door than what all WP ladies claim combined.

The Stud/Slut double standard (and as you can see, most women see the slut equivalent of man as stud) has a lot to do with the attraction of women toward the alpha and the copycat thing, in my thread you see the general female response to the Stud/Slut-man.

And you will see even more in my next wave of screenshots.

I am gonna expose your true fantasies, females of earth. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


I believe though that your experiment suffers from a phenomena known as "sample bias". You are posing as a stripper on an adult (sexually) oriented chat site, so one would expect the individuals on that website to be more inclined to see a male stripper or porn star as a positive thing.





Are you WP girls all clones here? You are all replying with this "sample bias" bullcrap. :lol: And what about you, WP aspie women, are you the true representative sample of women? :lol:

Why statistically-wise, I should dismiss the responses of these women and listen to the few of you instead?

Skout is not a sexually-oriented chat app at all, what makes you think it its?

Tinder is not a sexually-oriented chat app as it many think here, it is not really equivalent to its gay version, most women there make it clear on their profiles that they are not looking for hook up, it is dating what they have in mind.

I mean, as I said there, these are not selective screenshots, these are 30 women in row (and there will be more, it is a continuous thread) i chatted with from various places of the world and putting their responses there whatever their response was.

You think it's all coincidence? That most of their reactions were positive to my pornactor/escort claim?

Or it is reflective of your true desires when you are in your bedrooms?


Quote:
Two, the normal male is not an alpha male by any definition of the word. He is normal.


and normal is seen as boring by most.

I did this prank even way before starting to take screenshots and even among those screenshots, I am not showing the NSFW responses that progressed later (ie. pics, sexting, extreme sexual requests...etc) - if you wanna see them in pm, just ask me.

I have seen housewives, girls with bfs who claim to love their bfs but yet got so turned on , girls who are dating guys and telling me they wish to replace the guy they're seeing....

The monogamous marriage system is making it impossible for all women to get alphas, because as you said, most males are normal, but that doesn't mean they don't desire them anymore.


Et tu, Boo?

It's true that I've been gone for a while, and people change, but I had always held you in high regard, and I am dismayed to see that you have become a person who has resigned themselves to personal attacks against me and fellow Aspergians who happen to be female. I will answer your questions and then I will leave, as I see that this place is still the same bastion of bitterness and hostility towards women that it was when I left the first time.
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You took this too personal, but you can't deny that people with AS are not representative sample of their own gender, this is all what I am saying.

So you can't say that your words are more representative of the general female population than those skout users, because you are of the minority.

And yes, I have been questioning female individuality's opinions in men recently, it started here:
viewtopic.php?t=285005

and janissy's long post nailed it:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005&start=105

it gave me so much flashback memories and it's all consistent.


I'm of the minority, yes, but I have NT sisters and have been very observant of other women.

Anyway, I forgive you, though I am still leaving. I've said all I have to say on this matter with the first post and I've other things in life I have to get to. I wish you the best in life and that you do find a nice woman someday.


There are countless of studies indicate that siblings of autistics usually are very likely to be atypical, so they are not representative either.

Anyway, good luck for you too.



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I think the nice and alpha terms are just as useful as feminism. I'm for males and females having equal rights and opportunities, but I'm strongly against feminism.


That's feminism by definition, regardless of how some feminists act.


No, feminism is about favoring females at the expense of males. That's very different from giving both genders equal rights and opportunities.


Expectations of women has changed drastically in the last 40 or so years, for males there has been little change. The changes in expectations of males that has occurred has hardly been in our favor.


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DemocraticSocialistHun wrote:
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I think the nice and alpha terms are just as useful as feminism. I'm for males and females having equal rights and opportunities, but I'm strongly against feminism.


That's feminism by definition, regardless of how some feminists act.


No, feminism is about favoring females at the expense of males. That's very different from giving both genders equal rights and opportunities.


Expectations of women has changed drastically in the last 40 or so years, for males there has been little change. The changes in expectations of males that has occurred has hardly been in our favor.


There haven't been any changes as far as society's expectations of men are concerned, the bar just keeps being raised higher and higher. And as a result, more and more men are falling behind.

As for women, in Western society today, they're essentially allowed to remain in a state of perpetual childhood; with virtually limitless freedom and few, if any, obligations and responsibilities to go along with it.



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04 Jun 2015, 8:11 pm

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I think the nice and alpha terms are just as useful as feminism. I'm for males and females having equal rights and opportunities, but I'm strongly against feminism.


That's feminism by definition, regardless of how some feminists act.


No, feminism is about favoring females at the expense of males. That's very different from giving both genders equal rights and opportunities.


Expectations of women has changed drastically in the last 40 or so years, for males there has been little change. The changes in expectations of males that has occurred has hardly been in our favor.


There haven't been any changes as far as society's expectations of men are concerned, the bar just keeps being raised higher and higher. And as a result, more and more men are falling behind.

As for women, in Western society today, they're essentially allowed to remain in a state of perpetual childhood; with virtually limitless freedom and few, if any, obligations and responsibilities to go along with it.


How has the bar been raised higher? It's still the top few % who succeed in life/money/fame/fortune/athleticism/strength/might/power etc just as it's always been. The only reason there are more men "falling behind" is simply because there are more men, period, seeing as we have the largest population of humans ever.

Ummm, there are VERY few women treated to a life of leisure & luxury. Most have to work hard, whether as mothers or income earners or both.


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04 Jun 2015, 11:46 pm

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How has the bar been raised higher? It's still the top few % who succeed in life/money/fame/fortune/athleticism/strength/might/power etc just as it's always been. The only reason there are more men "falling behind" is simply because there are more men, period, seeing as we have the largest population of humans ever.

Ummm, there are VERY few women treated to a life of leisure & luxury. Most have to work hard, whether as mothers or income earners or both.


It's been raised in the way that an average guy just can't find a woman anymore. Back in 1950s, so long as you weren't a complete waste of space, as a man, you were pretty much guaranteed to get a woman (even if it was one of the bottom-shelf variety). Now that women pretty much have the run of society, we're seeing a return to Humanity's pre-agricultural, hunter/gatherer days, where a very small handful of top males pretty much monopolize all the women and the rest are kept as a glorified slave caste.

Unfortunately for women, this arrangement is simply not sustainable in modern society the way it was before. Modern society cannot actually function without these "lesser" males around to keep it running, and these guys won't work for free, no matter how much feminists try to shame them into doing so.



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05 Jun 2015, 12:05 am

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How has the bar been raised higher? It's still the top few % who succeed in life/money/fame/fortune/athleticism/strength/might/power etc just as it's always been. The only reason there are more men "falling behind" is simply because there are more men, period, seeing as we have the largest population of humans ever.

Ummm, there are VERY few women treated to a life of leisure & luxury. Most have to work hard, whether as mothers or income earners or both.


It's been raised in the way that an average guy just can't find a woman anymore. Back in 1950s, so long as you weren't a complete waste of space, as a man, you were pretty much guaranteed to get a woman (even if it was one of the bottom-shelf variety). Now that women pretty much have the run of society, we're seeing a return to Humanity's pre-agricultural, hunter/gatherer days, where a very small handful of top males pretty much monopolize all the women and the rest are kept as a glorified slave caste.

Unfortunately for women, this arrangement is simply not sustainable in modern society the way it was before. Modern society cannot actually function without these "lesser" males around to keep it running, and these guys won't work for free, no matter how much feminists try to shame them into doing so.


I didn't realize that the average male was now legally blind. That's the only reasonable explanation for why they can't find a woman.

No one is guaranteed anything. Not a job, not a woman etc. It's a competitive every man for himself world - always has been. Hmmm, I don't see the top males monopolizing all the women... it's not like there are men out there with dozens of wives/concubines & the rest of the peasants are left solo. There are men of all incomes and social statuses with female partners. I see it every day. I know a guy who's probably in the global 0.01% of wealth. He's married with a child. I also see homeless couples snuggled up against each other on the street - and every type of couple in between. It simply is not true that there are a few men that have all of the women and masses of men are left as a glorified slave caste - at least not here in Canada/USA, anyways. Maybe a bit more applicable in China or India where males are prized & females are often aborted.

I'm not familiar with any feminists, anywhere in the world, attempting to enslave men to work for free. Rich and powerful men and corporations... almost a yes, but feminists.. wtf?


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05 Jun 2015, 1:01 am

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I didn't realize that the average male was now legally blind. That's the only reasonable explanation for why they can't find a woman.


Deliberately obtuse comment is delibera... awww, f**k it.

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No one is guaranteed anything. Not a job, not a woman etc. It's a competitive every man for himself world - always has been. Hmmm, I don't see the top males monopolizing all the women... it's not like there are men out there with dozens of wives/concubines & the rest of the peasants are left solo. There are men of all incomes and social statuses with female partners. I see it every day. I know a guy who's probably in the global 0.01% of wealth. He's married with a child. I also see homeless couples snuggled up against each other on the street - and every type of couple in between. It simply is not true that there are a few men that have all of the women and masses of men are left as a glorified slave caste - at least not here in Canada/USA, anyways. Maybe a bit more applicable in China or India where males are prized & females are often aborted.


Our society practices "soft" polygyny. Women congregate en masse around a few top men, while lower-tier men are left with almost nothing. Polygyny requires no legal or societal enforcement as it is the natural order of things.

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I'm not familiar with any feminists, anywhere in the world, attempting to enslave men to work for free. Rich and powerful men and corporations... almost a yes, but feminists.. wtf?


And if there were any doubts that you're only here to try and sell a political agenda, this comment should be all it takes to disperse them.



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05 Jun 2015, 1:04 am

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And if there were any doubts that you're only here to try and sell a political agenda, this comment should be all it takes to disperse them.


If I'm here to sell any particular agenda then I choose the gay agenda..

1.) First we take your most delicious meal; brunch.
2.) TBD..


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05 Jun 2015, 1:09 am

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Gauldoth wrote:
And if there were any doubts that you're only here to try and sell a political agenda, this comment should be all it takes to disperse them.


If I'm here to sell any particular agenda then I choose the gay agenda..

1.) First we take your most delicious meal; brunch.
2.) TBD..


*fap* *fap* *fap*

Look, kid, just give up, will you? Aspergers are rationalists by nature, they're not gonna fall for your PC bs, and they're certainly not gonna act as grunts/footsoldiers for your cause like so many other low-status, disgruntled males have been so eager to do in the past. :roll:



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05 Jun 2015, 1:29 am

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goldfish21 wrote:
Gauldoth wrote:
And if there were any doubts that you're only here to try and sell a political agenda, this comment should be all it takes to disperse them.


If I'm here to sell any particular agenda then I choose the gay agenda..

1.) First we take your most delicious meal; brunch.
2.) TBD..


*fap* *fap* *fap*

Look, kid, just give up, will you? Aspergers are rationalists by nature, they're not gonna fall for your PC bs, and they're certainly not gonna act as grunts/footsoldiers for your cause like so many other low-status, disgruntled males have been so eager to do in the past. :roll:


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