White guy kills multiple people in black church
Unless there is someone else here with a gunsmithing degree and years of experience in the field, I think I can safely say that I'm the only one here with any actual gun designing experience
bows are harder to operate than your average gun, and it's gonna be really difficult to throw a knife or other edged weapon 100ft and hit your target, much less kill anything.
Also, there's nothing paranoid about worrying about people coming for your guns when people repeatedly try to do just that, even when they use dishonest, loaded language like "assault weapons" or "high capacity" to describe what they want to ban. You want to ban guns I own, i.e. you are in fact 'coming for my guns'. Treating people who disagree with you as if they are stupid is seldom a persuasive strategy, especially when you can't even accurately define what you're actually talking about.
also, "assault weapons" was defined in law by the 103rd Congress(link) as any gun that has the following:
(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept
a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of—
‘‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
‘‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath
the action of the weapon;
‘‘(iii) a bayonet mount;
‘‘(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed
to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
‘‘(v) a grenade launcher;
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Last night, the Charleston church, after going through the trauma of having nine of their members murdered by a racist extremist, now have found that their church building has been set ablaze. It is considered an act of arson. People are sick with hate.
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It's a different church located in in Charlotte, NC not Charleston, SC
A black church in North Carolina was deliberately set ablaze, officials say
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It's a different church located in in Charlotte, NC not Charleston, SC
A black church in North Carolina was deliberately set ablaze, officials say
Then the initial report I read was wrong.
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What are the big questions then?
Like with the rise of gun sales and ownership the gun involved death rate hasn't gone up proportionally.
They do provide the ability in terms of a tool but the user has to have thier s**t in one boot and have a window of opportunity in which to effectively employ said gun.
Not really an issue at the time. People for the most part seem to have stopped drinking the "gunz-r-bad" koolaid.
It didn't seem to pan out so well in Canada with C-68.....
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The sheer volume of sales of guns and ammo after the Obama inauguration and after Sandy Hook would indicate otherwise. It was not just a minority of black helicopter theorists and hoarders.
Let me guess; you think the only reason anyone would own a gun is for protection and that any man that would need to own a gun is weak and cannot fight.
That all men are bulletproof.
Lol, you really don't get it do you? But actually I think you do get it. You seem pretty smart actually.
We are on opposite sides of the fence. That's what it comes down to. I just post my thoughts in these threads and see how people respond.
I was raised with the belief "guns R bad." I'll admit it. I do sometimes when I'm not too moody like to read the other side. I understand it a bit. But we are on different sides of the fence. I don't claim to be an expert. I just like reading things that other people right.
Dox's long post I found interesting and a little revealing.
Some things never change. The things is I don't even vote. I just find these conversations interesting and nothing moe. Seriously, I live a pretty cushy life. I'm not worried about gun violence myself but I realize it is a possibility and if I had a choice I'd prefer a society more invested in arts music, science, exploration, etc. than weapons. I'm just talking. I don't want to learn about guns because it's not my interest.
Switzerland now does have a very interest thing going. I will say that much. But I don't think America can realistically adopt Switzerland's strategy.
Stick to what you know, which obviously includes neither guns nor arguing, to say nothing of critical thought. Establishing my experience and credentials so that I may point out that your argument is false is in no way fallacious, like if I were a mechanic and came across someone claiming their Ford Fiesta puts out 500hp, I could draw upon my experience to lend credence to my to my explanations of why it actually doesn't. Now in this case, I do happen to have a degree from one of the only gunsmith schools in the US and years of firearms experience to back up my contentions regarding firearms design; what qualifications do you have?
Remember what I was saying in another thread about unsupported statements? Again, I design and build guns, and I'm telling you that's complete crap, so what special qualifications or knowledge to you have to contradict my claim? Really, it's you who's making the "designed to kill" claim, and so should have to prove that guns are designed to kill, but I won't get my expectations up.
What relevance does ease of use have to argument you're pursuing about what an object is designed for? Is this a red herring, or do you really not know better?
Ahh, now you're trying to straw-man me, I never said guns are not weapons, in fact I mentioned it explicitly several times, the problem you're having is that you don't seem to understand that designed to launch projectiles is not the same thing as designed to kill, not even close.
I like how you completely avoid engaging with anything I just said in order to attempt a cheap shot, clearly the mark of a sharp mind thirsty for knowledge.
Did you notice the part where it wasn't addressed to you specifically? Maybe work on that reading comprehension a bit before getting into the advanced stuff like straw men, seeing as how you're not too good at identifying or deploying them, as can be seen up-post.
Again, show me where at any point in the original post you were specifically addressed, rather than the thread as a whole. I'll wait.
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Stick to what you know, which obviously includes neither guns nor arguing, to say nothing of critical thought. Establishing my experience and credentials so that I may point out that your argument is false is in no way fallacious, like if I were a mechanic and came across someone claiming their Ford Fiesta puts out 500hp, I could draw upon my experience to lend credence to my to my explanations of why it actually doesn't. Now in this case, I do happen to have a degree from one of the only gunsmith schools in the US and years of firearms experience to back up my contentions regarding firearms design; what qualifications do you have?
Remember what I was saying in another thread about unsupported statements? Again, I design and build guns, and I'm telling you that's complete crap, so what special qualifications or knowledge to you have to contradict my claim? Really, it's you who's making the "designed to kill" claim, and so should have to prove that guns are designed to kill, but I won't get my expectations up.
What relevance does ease of use have to argument you're pursuing about what an object is designed for? Is this a red herring, or do you really not know better?
Ahh, now you're trying to straw-man me, I never said guns are not weapons, in fact I mentioned it explicitly several times, the problem you're having is that you don't seem to understand that designed to launch projectiles is not the same thing as designed to kill, not even close.
I like how you completely avoid engaging with anything I just said in order to attempt a cheap shot, clearly the mark of a sharp mind thirsty for knowledge.
Did you notice the part where it wasn't addressed to you specifically? Maybe work on that reading comprehension a bit before getting into the advanced stuff like straw men, seeing as how you're not too good at identifying or deploying them, as can be seen up-post.
Again, show me where at any point in the original post you were specifically addressed, rather than the thread as a whole. I'll wait.
I purchased the firearms I own in large part because they will likely appreciate in value. I keep them in mint condition despite being 13 years of age and 1 year of age respectively. For me, they are protection against violence and an economy falling faster than a drone that had just been microwaved by a Russian military team. Hehe.
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I purchased the firearms I own in large part because they will likely appreciate in value. I keep them in mint condition despite being 13 years of age and 1 year of age respectively. For me, they are protection against violence and an economy falling faster than a drone that had just been microwaved by a Russian military team. Hehe.
Only two!?!?!?!?
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I purchased the firearms I own in large part because they will likely appreciate in value. I keep them in mint condition despite being 13 years of age and 1 year of age respectively. For me, they are protection against violence and an economy falling faster than a drone that had just been microwaved by a Russian military team. Hehe.
Only two!?!?!?!?
They are both SIG Sauers. Can a person own too many Corvettes? Haha.
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I purchased the firearms I own in large part because they will likely appreciate in value. I keep them in mint condition despite being 13 years of age and 1 year of age respectively. For me, they are protection against violence and an economy falling faster than a drone that had just been microwaved by a Russian military team. Hehe.
Only two!?!?!?!?
They are both SIG Sauers. Can a person own too many Corvettes? Haha.
I have a SIG, too; A P-228 and several others.
One can never own too many firearms and the more bleating I hear from the antis the more I hunger for..........more guns.
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I purchased the firearms I own in large part because they will likely appreciate in value. I keep them in mint condition despite being 13 years of age and 1 year of age respectively. For me, they are protection against violence and an economy falling faster than a drone that had just been microwaved by a Russian military team. Hehe.
Only two!?!?!?!?
They are both SIG Sauers. Can a person own too many Corvettes? Haha.
I have a SIG, too; A P-228 and several others.
One can never own too many firearms and the more bleating I hear from the antis the more I hunger for..........more guns.
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I purchased the firearms I own in large part because they will likely appreciate in value. I keep them in mint condition despite being 13 years of age and 1 year of age respectively. For me, they are protection against violence and an economy falling faster than a drone that had just been microwaved by a Russian military team. Hehe.
Only two!?!?!?!?
They are both SIG Sauers. Can a person own too many Corvettes? Haha.
I have a SIG, too; A P-228 and several others.
One can never own too many firearms and the more bleating I hear from the antis the more I hunger for..........more guns.
VERY depressing, and this is just my living room.....
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"Lethal intent"? I don't know whether to put this one down to poor reading comprehension or poor thinking, or both, since target shooting, a major use of firearms, requires no such intent, nor does self defense, where the aim is only to prevent harm to oneself or another. I don't know how else to explain it at this point, if you're not getting it, it's either willful or hopeless.
Ahh, another point for poor reading comprehension, as I brought up bows and knives as other items just as "designed to kill" as guns, and you responded by attacking their ease of use, which was not under discussion. The emotes only complete the self inflicted beclowning.
When did I say guns were designed for anything other than shooting? It's you who can't seem to distinguish "designed to shoot" from "designed to kill".
And the way that I addressed a number of terms and arguments people other than you had used should have tipped you off that I was addressing the thread at large, along with the fact that I didn't actually quote you or address you by name.
See above.
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