Anyone ever turn down free sex?

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07 Aug 2015, 2:58 pm

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Because in the real world, some girls are losers too.


Yes, but those girls have their sexual consent to use as a bargaining chip, loser guys don't even that. A loser girl can easily land an average or above-average guy just with the promise of regular access to sex.



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07 Aug 2015, 3:18 pm

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Because in the real world, some girls are losers too.


Yes, but those girls have their sexual consent to use as a bargaining chip, loser guys don't even that. A loser girl can easily land an average or above-average guy just with the promise of regular access to sex.



No, she cannot. I'm not talking about average or a little below average girls. I'm talking about way below average looking girls with horrible personalities and bodies that you don't really want to go near. There are some girls that most slightly below average and above guys will not touch at all. I know a few. I know some things that happened and while it's not fun for a guy to be turned down for sex, it's kind of considered a really bad insult for a girl to be, and there are quite a few that are. More than you think. You may not see these girls a lot because they either may not go out much or they make themselves almost invisible because they know what they look like and how they are too.

I could show you some pictures of a couple of them I know and you would say "I didn't mean them, I mean regular girls" or some such. Because, just, no. And just like a lot of the guys can't help it a lot of them can't. Also, while some guys can do something and don't, some girls can do something and don't.

It's not always a pretty world


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07 Aug 2015, 5:44 pm

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No, she cannot. I'm not talking about average or a little below average girls. I'm talking about way below average looking girls with horrible personalities and bodies that you don't really want to go near. There are some girls that most slightly below average and above guys will not touch at all. I know a few. I know some things that happened and while it's not fun for a guy to be turned down for sex, it's kind of considered a really bad insult for a girl to be, and there are quite a few that are. More than you think. You may not see these girls a lot because they either may not go out much or they make themselves almost invisible because they know what they look like and how they are too.

I could show you some pictures of a couple of them I know and you would say "I didn't mean them, I mean regular girls" or some such. Because, just, no. And just like a lot of the guys can't help it a lot of them can't. Also, while some guys can do something and don't, some girls can do something and don't.

It's not always a pretty world


I'm guessing you don't usually associate with a lot of low-status, unattractive males. Not that I blame you, most people don't, certainly not women. With the price of sex as inflated as it is today, most of us would take literally almost anything we could get. Beggars can't be choosers. Sure, maybe these girls got turned down when they asked out Chad McAlpha, because he has constant regular access to sex with higher-quality women, but what I'm betting what you DIDN'T see was these very the same women turning down dregs like me by the truckload. And why? Because all we had to offer them was our own sexual consent, and that's not what women want from men. Women want someone who will raise social status (and I do mean SOCIAL status, not financial status), guys like me can't do that because we're at the very bottom of the social hierarchy, so they're not going to give us sex.



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07 Aug 2015, 5:47 pm

I would rather have a girl who is not-so-hot looking, yet has a nice personality, than have a girl who is "hot," yet has a crude personality.



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07 Aug 2015, 6:42 pm

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The question needs to be rephrased.

Its should be "has any MAN here ever turned down free sex?"

Women turn down offers for "free sex" every waking hour of every day. Or at least that's my understand ( person of the male persuasion speaking). LOL!


The media depict men to be sex craved but women find sex much, much more pleasurable then men, or so I've heard not from personal experience :)


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07 Aug 2015, 7:24 pm

Gauldoth wrote:
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No, she cannot. I'm not talking about average or a little below average girls. I'm talking about way below average looking girls with horrible personalities and bodies that you don't really want to go near. There are some girls that most slightly below average and above guys will not touch at all. I know a few. I know some things that happened and while it's not fun for a guy to be turned down for sex, it's kind of considered a really bad insult for a girl to be, and there are quite a few that are. More than you think. You may not see these girls a lot because they either may not go out much or they make themselves almost invisible because they know what they look like and how they are too.

I could show you some pictures of a couple of them I know and you would say "I didn't mean them, I mean regular girls" or some such. Because, just, no. And just like a lot of the guys can't help it a lot of them can't. Also, while some guys can do something and don't, some girls can do something and don't.

It's not always a pretty world


I'm guessing you don't usually associate with a lot of low-status, unattractive males. Not that I blame you, most people don't, certainly not women. With the price of sex as inflated as it is today, most of us would take literally almost anything we could get. Beggars can't be choosers. Sure, maybe these girls got turned down when they asked out Chad McAlpha, because he has constant regular access to sex with higher-quality women, but what I'm betting what you DIDN'T see was these very the same women turning down dregs like me by the truckload. And why? Because all we had to offer them was our own sexual consent, and that's not what women want from men. Women want someone who will raise social status (and I do mean SOCIAL status, not financial status), guys like me can't do that because we're at the very bottom of the social hierarchy, so they're not going to give us sex.


I understand that the Chris Chan types would probably go for those girls but you had said an average or above average guy would and I honestly don't think they would. I have seen that type of thing happen before when the GUY is really drunk. I knew one who woke up in a really bad situation once and just made up some s**t and walked out and started walking to go find his way back home, didn't even know where his car was and assumed it was at the bar. This was a REALLY good looking guy and how he ended up there I do know, and it had to do with Tequila and weed. Lots of both. And some coke so things would work. She didn't do anything anyway and that was her lucky night. He said he was nice but said he had to go there was an emergency, but how he would have heard of one back then before cell phones I have no clue. But usually that kind of hook up doesn't happen. Usually people tend to stick to their own league or maybe one notch above or below. Unless one is a gold digger or a trick or one is on drugs and the other has a lot of them. Otherwise people are more or less equal, but sometimes you see matches that surprise you, and it's love. Those are better people than I am because I had to be physically attracted to the guy before I would go on a date with him and maybe those matches aren't. Or maybe they are attracted to that type, you never know.

But, I don't care at all about anybody's social status. I make my own social status. I don't know why you insist that we must be getting some kind of social kickback for p**** or something. That has never happened to me. I wouldn't be interested in that anyway. What kind of things do you think my husband is doing for me socially? I'm serious, that isn't just me yelling at you and a rhetorical question. What could I possibly be getting socially from this.


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07 Aug 2015, 7:26 pm

Rudin wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
The question needs to be rephrased.

Its should be "has any MAN here ever turned down free sex?"

Women turn down offers for "free sex" every waking hour of every day. Or at least that's my understand ( person of the male persuasion speaking). LOL!


The media depict men to be sex craved but women find sex much, much more pleasurable then men, or so I've heard not from personal experience :)


There are a lot of factors involved. All sex is not created equal and there is skill involved as well as genetic luck.


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07 Aug 2015, 8:22 pm

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...I could show you some pictures of a couple of them I know and you would say "I didn't mean them, I mean regular girls" or some such. Because, just, no. And just like a lot of the guys can't help it a lot of them can't. ...
This needs to be said more often. These women aren't even factored into the equation, but just go out in public, look around, and you'll realize you are surrounded by them. At least in the US.


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07 Aug 2015, 8:49 pm

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I understand that the Chris Chan types would probably go for those girls but you had said an average or above average guy would and I honestly don't think they would. I have seen that type of thing happen before when the GUY is really drunk. I knew one who woke up in a really bad situation once and just made up some s**t and walked out and started walking to go find his way back home, didn't even know where his car was and assumed it was at the bar. This was a REALLY good looking guy and how he ended up there I do know, and it had to do with Tequila and weed. Lots of both. And some coke so things would work. She didn't do anything anyway and that was her lucky night. He said he was nice but said he had to go there was an emergency, but how he would have heard of one back then before cell phones I have no clue. But usually that kind of hook up doesn't happen. Usually people tend to stick to their own league or maybe one notch above or below. Unless one is a gold digger or a trick or one is on drugs and the other has a lot of them. Otherwise people are more or less equal, but sometimes you see matches that surprise you, and it's love. Those are better people than I am because I had to be physically attracted to the guy before I would go on a date with him and maybe those matches aren't. Or maybe they are attracted to that type, you never know.

But, I don't care at all about anybody's social status. I make my own social status. I don't know why you insist that we must be getting some kind of social kickback for p**** or something. That has never happened to me. I wouldn't be interested in that anyway. What kind of things do you think my husband is doing for me socially? I'm serious, that isn't just me yelling at you and a rhetorical question. What could I possibly be getting socially from this.


I actually somewhat resemble a (somewhat) thinner version of Chris Chan. I'm not crapping myself in public for attention, but it doesn't really seem to matter since 90% of your sexual market value is your looks. Hell, I think looks matter even more if you're a guy than if you're a girl. Girls not only have their sexual consent to play with, they also can make up (somewhat) for their lack of physical attractiveness just being gentle and kind (men actually seek traits such as kindness and gentlness in their partners). If you're a guy, all you got is your looks and your money, and the latter is becoming an increasingly insignificant factor in the dating market (not that it matters to me since I want someone to love me for who I am, and not what I have). :roll:

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Funnily enough, both I and Chris-chan were actually pretty cute as little kids, we just aged terribly.



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12 Nov 2017, 6:37 pm

I once turned down an oddly direct request for casual sex from a sexually attractive young woman, simply because I am sickened by the concept of casual sex.

This occurred before my first (and current) romantic relationship.



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12 Nov 2017, 7:33 pm

Yeah, now and then.

EDIT: Hey, fiber.. you necro'd the thread, man!!


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12 Nov 2017, 8:52 pm

I once had a naked woman pounce upon me. For some reason, I couldn't "get it up" at that time :|



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12 Nov 2017, 11:00 pm

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I once had a naked woman pounce upon me. For some reason, I couldn't "get it up" at that time :|

Shock? That's understandable enough. Why on earth did a naked woman pounce you?
I've turned down free sex plenty. At one time in my life, based on my appearance, that was all anyone ever wanted from me. No shortage of offers. But I did not want them, and did not want to be wanted merely as a sex toy.


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12 Nov 2017, 11:18 pm

Nothing wrong with not jumping into a sexual encounter you're unsure about or uncomfortable with.


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13 Nov 2017, 1:35 am

white_as_snow wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Nothing wrong with not jumping into a sexual encounter you're unsure about or uncomfortable with.


so you hate sex .

No she just has emotions with sex like me and others do. We don’t just purely want sex.



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13 Nov 2017, 3:19 am

From some WP girls, you know who you are.