Beta males - why do woman dislike them?
It's important to remember that every female is different. Everyone has their own "type". Yes, there are some women who just want a stinking rich sugar daddy or a wall-to-wall-muscles-washboard-abs hunk but those kinds of women are not good to be in relationships with because they don't love you as a person, they just want you for your "good bits". There are women who do like "beta males", but there's much more to loving someone than that, it's just another stupid "stereotype". No matter what, both people in a relationship should love the other person for who they are. If not, they shouldn't even bother with each other.
I don't have a problem with shy guys/unpopular guys, but their stereotype on the internet is the following:
- "I was nice to her, but she friendzoned me.", some guys seem to think that being nice to a girl (white knight) means she has to have sex with him, or at least be interested in him. When a girl isn't interested, they usually turn quite bitter or even agressive (that happened to me a few times, "Well f**k you, you entitled b***h"). 90% of the time, she didn't 'friendzone' him, she just tried to turn him down politely.
- Personal hygiene can be an issue. As you can see in the 9GAG post in the first post, the 'beta male' doesn't look very nice. Unkept hair, fuzzy beard. That's just not what girls like. Superficial, but think for yourself: how attractive is a man who looks like he showers once a month and eats doritos as a dinner? If I have to choose between the first and the second man: yes, I would definitely pick the second guy.
- Body language is half the communication. If someone doesn't talk to me, doesn't make eye contact, slouches, etc., I won't notice him as a potential (boy)friend. Being a bit socially awkward can be cute, but everyone has limits.
- A woman (me in this case
) doesn't like a passive guy, someone who doesn't have opinions, isn't really interested in the things she enjoys (culturally or intellectually, shopping doesn't count), or agrees with everything she says. Men tend to do that: saying yes and amen to everything, because they want her to be interested in him. Assertiveness is okay, attractive even.
Of course, this sounds all very superficial, and I don't want to insult anyone or piss on your bonfire. But it is the truth. It can be very hard for introverted or autistic people to open up socially, especially with people you don't know. When it comes to these kind of things, you just have a bit of a disadvantage. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. If you want a girl who is attracted to the 'cute and hot' socially awkward guy, you can't expect her to be attracted to you if you're nothing like that (and she doesn't know you). I think it's best to be friends before lovers, because that way you know eachother when you fall in love.
- "I was nice to her, but she friendzoned me.", some guys seem to think that being nice to a girl (white knight) means she has to have sex with him, or at least be interested in him. When a girl isn't interested, they usually turn quite bitter or even agressive (that happened to me a few times, "Well f**k you, you entitled b***h"). 90% of the time, she didn't 'friendzone' him, she just tried to turn him down politely.
- Personal hygiene can be an issue. As you can see in the 9GAG post in the first post, the 'beta male' doesn't look very nice. Unkept hair, fuzzy beard. That's just not what girls like. Superficial, but think for yourself: how attractive is a man who looks like he showers once a month and eats doritos as a dinner? If I have to choose between the first and the second man: yes, I would definitely pick the second guy.
- Body language is half the communication. If someone doesn't talk to me, doesn't make eye contact, slouches, etc., I won't notice him as a potential (boy)friend. Being a bit socially awkward can be cute, but everyone has limits.
- A woman (me in this case
Of course, this sounds all very superficial, and I don't want to insult anyone or piss on your bonfire. But it is the truth. It can be very hard for introverted or autistic people to open up socially, especially with people you don't know. When it comes to these kind of things, you just have a bit of a disadvantage. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. If you want a girl who is attracted to the 'cute and hot' socially awkward guy, you can't expect her to be attracted to you if you're nothing like that (and she doesn't know you). I think it's best to be friends before lovers, because that way you know eachother when you fall in love.
Not all Beta Males look like that. I not a pushy kind of guy, and I am not ugly, gross, etc. and a lot of women seem to appreciate the fact that I am easy to get along with.
I have a difficult time believing all guys fall cleanly into diametrically opposed categories. Like anyone I have weird days, but even those aren't usually characterized by withdrawal and moping. I'm sure women want to see some of the 'beta' traits from every guy they know. Frankly, the 'alpha' list is how I usually act, it just isn't how I think.
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The guy on the left is obese, has a face full of acne, and scruffy hair. In prehistoric times this was a turn-off because instinctively people thought spotty skin and being generally unattractive meant the person was diseased and was not a suitable mate. I read somewhere than females are supposed to be more easily grossed out because they must protect their young as well as themselves from things that could be diseased or toxic, including other people. That is the sad and bitter truth about why people who are physically attractive always get treated better, even if they act really ugly. ![]()
At least "talking a lot" isn't on that list of traits, even though people on here usually associate that with being Alpha. Which isn't necessarily true in my opinion.(a loud/talkative guy sounds potentially embarrassing)
Then there's the eye-contact part of it which is often a form of "staring" although it's never called that either. Eye-contact is fine when done in short intervals though.
I feel like its counter productive to frame it as 'beta' 'alpha' personality types.
Thats a false dichotomy of one or the other and essentially limits the variety of personalities to two different constants. In reality its quite different where people are quite diverse both in relation to others and in relation to ourselves (ie. we change to circumstance). Whilst there is merit to the notion that there are particular traits of men we think of as 'alpha' that are advantageous with some aspects of women, that is by no means a qualifier.
also, its not wise to type cast women as all being the same. different people like different things depending on their interests and personalities. being comfortable with yourself as a person and confident to share that with others is not 'alpha' or 'beta', its just making the best of your situation around like minded people.
in all, these personality types are a load of s**t with absolutely no peer review. Its pseudoscience sold by a bunch of losers to other losers that see the world in black and white and are hopeless with women. if your interested in getting more familiar with women, find a way to be around them more and actually watch how they act. they have the exact same problems as everybody else and find it just as hard to talk to guys.. I don't know about you guys, but it makes a lot more sense to learn about women, from women. (I know this, because I went to Nursing School for a few years).
Fun fact: humans are the most socially complex primates on the planet.
They cannot be easily categorized into "alpha" and "beta."
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wow that's really interesting I never thought of it like that but it totally rings true in my dads relationship.
not saying I want that just thought it was interesting.
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