Are these lyrics politically incorrect by todays standards?

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29 Aug 2015, 12:26 pm



I have this song playing in my head quite often and the lyrics do make me laugh but I was wondering whether they are un-pc bordering on racist in this day and age?


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29 Aug 2015, 1:15 pm

I wouldn't call this song offensive, but undoubtedly someone will. This is a song about getting along, something that the P.C. Warriors don't do.


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29 Aug 2015, 1:19 pm

Intention and context are far more important than policing words.



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29 Aug 2015, 1:24 pm

This is more controversial but still funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqvweTYTI0



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29 Aug 2015, 1:29 pm

Lol....yes, very funny indeed.


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29 Aug 2015, 1:36 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
Intention and context are far more important than policing words.

^this.


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29 Aug 2015, 2:00 pm

Yes, it's widely recognised that "chinkee" is rude, but the sentiment is good.



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29 Aug 2015, 2:37 pm

This song also from 1969 uses a words that nobody would allow today but also if you look at the context of the song is not racist.


This Video by Cher from 1973 would be banned today


This song about not being able to fit in and being accepted by both sides has never been more relevant for a lot of us. (in the song she is a "half breed" not accepted by whites and "Native Americans", in our case we are not accepted by "low functioning" autistic organizations and NT's)


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29 Aug 2015, 7:10 pm

Where did you find that song Babybird?

Was alive in 1969,but don't remember ever hearing that song on the radio.

The word "Chinkee" was as un pc in 1969 as it is now.

Interesting specimen to add to my collection of musical oddities. Not sure what to make of it.

Its kinda like Monty Python's "Never Be Rude to an Arab (nor to a n****r, a Jew, or a Wop)". The song contradicts itself, but with the Monty Python song the irony is obviously intentional. With the song in the OP its not clear whether the performers were aware of the contradiction, or not.



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29 Aug 2015, 7:15 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
This is more controversial but still funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqvweTYTI0



Check out "Never Be Rude to an Arab" (also by Monty Python).



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29 Aug 2015, 8:26 pm

How about this for politically incorrect / hilarious?



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29 Aug 2015, 11:43 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
How about this for politically incorrect / hilarious?



Same general topic



While taken in context I do not find the first two songs offensive that is not true for this one


What or Who Is an Indian Giver? A History of the Offensive Term

What I have realized from this thread is that it has been, and still is considered more acceptable to say things about the groups that in America first, then those that arrived later.


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30 Aug 2015, 12:36 am

as i understand it, attempts by native american comedians to come up with a way to parody Europe's "Cherokee" song and video have come up short of producing anything as absurd as the original.



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30 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm

When I was a little kid in the Sixties you still used to hear the phrase "Indian giver"-meaning "someone who gives you gift, and then later asks for it back".

I think that it came from frontier and colonial days when there was cultural misunderstanding between Whites and Indians. The later were more communal about property than whites. If someone admired something you had you were expected to offer it to them. And if you gifted someone with something it was acceptable to ask for it back. Which of course confused and offended the recipient if they were a White settler.

But I haven't heard the term in a LONG time.



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14 Dec 2019, 4:10 pm

Its an anti racist song, but uses rather ...antiquated terms.... for certain ethnic groups like "yellow Chinkees".

So it comes off like that Monty Python song "Never Be Rude to an Arab". As funny. But unlike that Monty Python song it wasn't meant to be funny.

DANG!

Didn't realize that someone necro'd this thread from four years ago. I myself already posted in this thread back then!