You Guys Ready for Denali?

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Have you heard about this? Denali is making a comeback and President Obama is happy to usher it in!

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... ce=dlvr.it

I liked 'Denali' more. It sounds interesting and mysterious compared to 'McKinley' especially with it being the tallest above sea level mountain.

Good thing they are not renaming it Mount Obama like Antigua and Barbuda did with Boggy Peak. A & B is a corrupt socialist dump.

In Alaska it's been called Denali almost forever. Obama's latest little contribution is just as insignificant as all of his others.

Interesting decision. The local natives have called it "Denali" which simply means "tall mountain" in their dialect.

When the south east Asian country known today as Malaysia got it's independence they chose the term Melayu to denote all indigenous people and also the name of their country. The locals had no historic knowledge that the original name Malay derives from the Indian word given by Indian traders who two thousand years ago first spotted the shores of the peninsular and called it land of mountains or "Malai".

As historians now consider Clovis man to be the first inhabitant of north America it may be that Denali might also be a non-native name given by another ancient people long ago.

Actually GOP is up in arms over this move, since he didn't seek congressional approval.
Ohio is having a fit that Obama is disgracing McKinley and Ohio by changing the name.
This is no longer insignificant.

Hell even the national park quarter says Denali.


The national park itself is also named Denali as well.
Denali is so much better than McKinley

From what I have been told, naming Denali 'McKinley' was more of a political stunt then anything else. Raptor's got it right though, nothing new. As far as Congress being pissed off goes, Obama blows off 'Checks and Balances' way too much. He should have at least gotten Congress involved in the process and make the politicos look like they are doing something. And Ohio is pissed because McKinley was a native son whose main claim to fame was that he got assassinated.

Actually the two Alaskan Senators submitted a bill at the beginning of last session to change it back to Denali (there has been many attempts over the past few decades).
Ohio and other GOP members blocked the bill in committee where it currently stands.

The Secretary of the Interior (U.S. Department of the Interior) has the power to change the name under the current law and with popular support in Alaska for the change, issued and signed the order.

Obama had very little to do with it, outside of going to the press conference in Alaska, which he was invited.

So Obama didn't do anything other than accept the Secretary of the Interior's order.

The GOP is up in arms because Obama is a democrat. If he were a republican the democrats would be up in arms. Political polarization at work as usual. He's doing it to kiss Alaska's ass since he's going on a trip up there to talk about "climate change" or whatever. It will likely be for naught, though, since Alaska is a red state with strong libertarian leanings.

When I lived there for a while (I could look out my window and see Denali in the distance) I was told that back in the 70's that simpleminded peanut farmer from Georgia pissed the Alaskans off (I forgot how) and that it'll take several generations for them to forget it. I never researched it because it seemed plausible enough as it was.

Ohio, who he's pissing off, is a blue state but with a very significant number of of hardcore conservatives in it. This move could potentially antagonise Ohio to go red while not moving Alaska one inch toward blue.

I like the change because most Alaskans call it Denali anyways. Who cares what Ohio thinks, it's not their state. States should really have control of what they name their landmarks, other states shouldn't have the power to influence landmarks not in their territory.

Some day I'm going to climb Denali

I don't think Obama should have done it though, he may have made things right again, but he abused his power the same way McKinley abused his back in the seventies to change the name in the first place.

I always thought of it as Denali--I usually try to remember what the locals call places.

Actually Democrats would have allowed this to happen, even if it was proposed by a Republican (Technically the Senate bills were).

Democrats aren't as obstructive as the GOP.
Hell the Democrats even worked with Bush II to get bills through congress, not once causing a government shutdown or delaying important bills outside of drilling rights in national parks.
They also peacefully worked with:
Bush I
Reagen (for the most part)
Ford
Nixon (for the most part)
And others.

Democrats have never behaved like the GOP is now, at any time in history.

Most of Ohio will quickly forget about McKinley and the mountain yet again before Halloween.
So there is no election blow back in 2016.

This is actually happening shortly before Paris Climate conference.

Odd name, but it's only temporary.

I would say that the republicans hold the moral high ground and are therefore justified in ANYTHING they do to thwart Obama but that might come off as trollish so I won't say it.


Depends on how many Ohioans are employed next November as to how they'll vote.

I won't be there.

Meanwhile, the glaciers are melting.

Yeah it happens every year in what is termed 'summer'.

Then why is it the lady who runs a touring business in Alaska say this area of land should be covered by this glacier, for many yards, and it's not? The glacier has retreated quite a bit. She said it wasn't where it should be. She didn't say it was normal for summer. She said this large area should have been covered by ice and it wasn't. They showed her and the area on camera.

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