Does the U.S. want Trump’s Muslim solution or the vigilantis

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where are you getting this increase in crime?

This is the first source I could find;

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/ ... opulation/

"Out of that 4.4% and in deducting the women and children, we can roughly guesstimate that around 2% are male. The foreign rape figures at 77.6% Muslim has been anonymously confirmed by Swedish polish in a phone conversation. The actual figure could be higher. "
Anonymous sources do not good data make.



e: i looked for a source, this is what I found


http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/swede ... an-didn't/


"A 1996 Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention report bears this out. It noted that Muslim immigrants from North Africa were 23 times more likely to commit rape than Swedish men. It is no wonder why today Sweden is deemed the rape capital of the Western world."
oh dear, looks like someone's been fooled by rightwing propaganda spun out of whole cloth and outdated information. tragic.

Last edited by Fugu on 02 Feb 2016, 7:36 pm, edited 2 times in total.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -REID.html

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mains ... -the-west/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrati ... ime#Sweden

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comme ... in_sweden/

1: the daily mail is a rag that will say anything

2: War criminal Allen West is not a source worth looking at.

3:Actually a good source, though for you, not so much.

"A 2006 government report however suggests that immigrants face discrimination by law enforcement, which could lead to meaningful differences between those suspected of crimes and those actually convicted. A 2008 report by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention finds evidence of discrimination towards individuals of foreign descent in the Swedish judicial system. The 2005 report finds that immigrants who entered Sweden during early childhood have lower crime rates than other immigrants. By taking account of socioeconomic factors (gender, age, education and income), the crime rate gap between immigrants and natives decreases"

"A 2013 study found that both first- and second-generation immigrants have a higher rate of suspected offences than indigenous Swedes. While first-generation immigrants have the highest offender rate, the offenders have the lowest average number of offenses, which indicates that there is a high rate of low-rate offending (many suspected offenders with only one single registered offense). The rate of chronic offending (offenders suspected of several offenses) is higher among indigenous Swedes than first-generation immigrants. Second-generation immigrants have higher rates of chronic offending than first-generation immigrants but lower total offender rates."


4: is about 2 women and a bunch of dead links

The suspects in the Cologne attacks are mostly North African. There are some native Germans too, and individual Americans, Iraqis and Afghans. The only confirmed involvement Syrians have had is as victims, or helping to protect potential victims.

Sweden has high "rates of rape" for three reasons: it has a broad legal definition of rape, police log incidents separately where other countries would combine into one report, and it has a high reporting rate.

The guy that quoted RationalWiki as a source is actually going to lecture me on valid sources.

The guy that used RationalWiki as a source is actually going to lecture me on valid sources.

Also, your analysis of the Wikipedia source is meaningless, since it still shows that foreigners are more commonly offenders;

While first-generation immigrants have the highest offender rate...

Some are ahead of you while others are quite far behind us.

The left has to start being honest when speaking of a religion of peace. That being that it is not a religion of peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZlo0W ... e=youtu.be

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DL

I am usually firmly in the left's camp, but like you, not in this case.

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DL

I think that's the exact problem here. The left is shifting farther left, and I feel the right is remaining firmly planted and perhaps even gradually sidling across to the left itself. People on the left are now feeling hopeless because a lot of their prior ideals are being abandoned by their own camp, and thus they begin to realise that those on the right appear rather more akin to their own idealistic standards.

Again, I don't like or even fully respect Trump, but he's the only one that speaks sense. I feel that, like you said, you may be the same way out. I've heard it said before; conservatism is the new counter-culture. That's pretty much this in action.

I do not it that way. I am liberal towards new ideas and believe in trying things that are out of the bo they make sense.

I am conservative only when it means preserving some part of our ideology that has proven itself worthy.

In the case of Islam and their attack on the freedoms of speech and association that our fathers and grandfathers died for, --- is well worth conserving.

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DL