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14 Mar 2016, 12:12 am

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I hold those who wish to become a world leader to a much higher standard than some random protesters. For a president to subvert the rule of law in this way would be truly disturbing. I just can't see Bernie Sanders paying legal fees for some BLM hothead who got into a physical fight with a Trump supporter. He would never do that.



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14 Mar 2016, 12:16 am

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Smart move, politically speaking. Shows his "people" that he'll take care of them, and that he's putting his money where his mouth is. Morally, it's definitely fuzzy at best, but that's hardly a leap for Trump.


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15 Mar 2016, 12:17 pm

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Standby for multiple claims by multiple factions that it was done by one of the others because reasons.


Soros funded them, just as he funded the mess in Ferguson.

So, not really any side other than a rich white dude trying to influence politics for his own gain.



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15 Mar 2016, 12:24 pm

these punks were going thru the parking lots in Chicago at the arena smashing car windows

these are the violent people and if they keep their actions up the rest of America won't mind seeing them punched in the nose



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15 Mar 2016, 12:53 pm

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The real fun will come when the Trumpsters start "disrupting" BLM rallies and such, I can already see how that's going to be spun.


They won't, though.

What happened in Chicago was pretty much outside agitators shipped in with planning and funding from an outside source. They get a wage, bail allowance, and legal fees, in addition to training and a specific mission. Follow the funding, and you find who's responsible, which everyone already knows.

It gives genuine protestors, whether against Trump or anyone else, a bad name.



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15 Mar 2016, 1:03 pm

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these punks were going thru the parking lots in Chicago at the arena smashing car windows

these are the violent people and if they keep their actions up the rest of America won't mind seeing them punched in the nose

Did anyone get arrested for it and say Bernie told them to?Maybe Trump hired people to do it so he could blame Bernie.Seems like something a casino mogul would do.


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15 Mar 2016, 1:11 pm

UIC faculty and student group, Chicago ANSWER, Illinois Coalition of Immigrant and Refugee Rights, Chicago La Raza, BLM and offshoots, People for Bernie, and probably a bunch of other activist groups that exist as facebook pages. There were Mexican flags and the hammer and sickle flying, these people are the extremists and the violent people.

here's the terrorist Bill Ayers taking his victory lap at the Chicago 'protest'



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15 Mar 2016, 1:22 pm

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these punks were going thru the parking lots in Chicago at the arena smashing car windows

these are the violent people and if they keep their actions up the rest of America won't mind seeing them punched in the nose

Did anyone get arrested for it and say Bernie told them to?Maybe Trump hired people to do it so he could blame Bernie.Seems like something a casino mogul would do.


Bernie encourages it with his violent rhetoric, all he talks about is 'protesting' this or that and calling for his so called revolution which if you take this geriatric pinko at his word to the meaning of that given the time he grew up I would consider it to be a violent threat. You can try to say he prefaces what he says but explaining that he isn't for all that but so does Trump. Bernie is somebody that grew up idolizing the Soviets and this is something everybody should know, that's was the first place he went after he became mayor of Burlington(his first 'real' job at like age 40) which was his honeymoon as well. This guys was a 60s RADICAL in every sense of the world, I bet the FBI has a file on his an inch thick from the 60s. Maybe the FBI should release the files they have on him from way back when because you know they exist.

Make them play by their own rules, that's one Alinsky's rules and it's a great one since even they can't escape it!



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15 Mar 2016, 1:57 pm

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Seems like BLM and the Berniebots are the violent ones who hate free speech. You don't see Trump supporters doing this, you don't see any Republican supporters doing this, you have one 78 year old man punch an unruly protester and Trump supporters are violent and we have a wide scale organized assault aimed at silencing of the candidate done by BLM, leftist organizations like Moveon.org, it appeared La Raza, and a spattering of misguided supporters o Bernie the red who condemns Trump for the violence and not his own violent followers. The media cheers them on, this is by design they try to create a narrative that Trump encourages violence and then attack him with violence and then blame him for the violence. Very dirty, very underhanded. Maybe some Trump supporters should start crashing some Bernie Sanders rallies, think of all the safe spaces violated and the people 'triggered'.


So basically you're ok with crashing president candidate rallies, so long as it's a candidate you disagree with? I will have to look into the OP more but yeah if a group of left wingers violently crashed a trump rally I certainly don't agree with those actions anymore than I agree with right wingers who think it's ok to punch non-violent protesters at their rallies.

With your logic, I guess because an unreasonable trumpkin punched a protestor I should assume everyone on the right is opposed to free speech and supports violence towards anyone on the left and feel sorry for myself. :roll:

The way I see it though, beating people up for disagreeing is entirely ineffective and puts a damper on trying to find any common ground.


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15 Mar 2016, 2:09 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
these punks were going thru the parking lots in Chicago at the arena smashing car windows

these are the violent people and if they keep their actions up the rest of America won't mind seeing them punched in the nose

Did anyone get arrested for it and say Bernie told them to?Maybe Trump hired people to do it so he could blame Bernie.Seems like something a casino mogul would do.


Bernie encourages it with his violent rhetoric, all he talks about is 'protesting' this or that and calling for his so called revolution which if you take this geriatric pinko at his word to the meaning of that given the time he grew up I would consider it to be a violent threat. You can try to say he prefaces what he says but explaining that he isn't for all that but so does Trump. Bernie is somebody that grew up idolizing the Soviets and this is something everybody should know, that's was the first place he went after he became mayor of Burlington(his first 'real' job at like age 40) which was his honeymoon as well. This guys was a 60s RADICAL in every sense of the world, I bet the FBI has a file on his an inch thick from the 60s. Maybe the FBI should release the files they have on him from way back when because you know they exist.

Make them play by their own rules, that's one Alinsky's rules and it's a great one since even they can't escape it!


Where do you get all this crap, I'd like some evidence that Bernie grew up 'idolizing the soviets' please as well as for every other outlandish claim you've made in this post. Bernie is talking about peaceful protest and revolution through progress nothing about violence. He hasn't made comments implicating physical harm should come to those who oppose him whilst I believe trump with his own mouth said something along the lines of wishing he could punch a protester and does tend to egg things on.

Also you do realize hes a proponent of democratic socialism correct?...which is entirely different from what the soviets had, so you're cold war fear mongering isn't very convincing. He doesn't even expect to entirely switch over to democratic socialism so much as incorporate features of it into our system.

But I digress go ahead and give your support to trump, no one is going to convince you Bernie isn't an evil commie soviet involved in some conspiracy to create a violent soviet esque revolution or that Trump isn't actually infallible.


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15 Mar 2016, 2:21 pm

Also for everyone saying trump doesn't condone or encourage violence at his rallies:


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35788449

Let me guess...he didn't really say that, it must be left wing media tricks clearly they just did a voice over and trump never said any of those things. :roll:

If Bernie is condoning violence this way I certainly would like to see it, because if that is the case then no I wouldn't still support him...however nothing has surfaced to my knowledge yet.


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15 Mar 2016, 2:36 pm

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Seems like BLM and the Berniebots are the violent ones who hate free speech. You don't see Trump supporters doing this, you don't see any Republican supporters doing this, you have one 78 year old man punch an unruly protester and Trump supporters are violent and we have a wide scale organized assault aimed at silencing of the candidate done by BLM, leftist organizations like Moveon.org, it appeared La Raza, and a spattering of misguided supporters o Bernie the red who condemns Trump for the violence and not his own violent followers. The media cheers them on, this is by design they try to create a narrative that Trump encourages violence and then attack him with violence and then blame him for the violence. Very dirty, very underhanded. Maybe some Trump supporters should start crashing some Bernie Sanders rallies, think of all the safe spaces violated and the people 'triggered'.


So basically you're ok with crashing president candidate rallies, so long as it's a candidate you disagree with? I will have to look into the OP more but yeah if a group of left wingers violently crashed a trump rally I certainly don't agree with those actions anymore than I agree with right wingers who think it's ok to punch non-violent protesters at their rallies.

With your logic, I guess because an unreasonable trumpkin punched a protestor I should assume everyone on the right is opposed to free speech and supports violence towards anyone on the left and feel sorry for myself. :roll:

The way I see it though, beating people up for disagreeing is entirely ineffective and puts a damper on trying to find any common ground.


I think the rallies both Bernie and Trump have are great, this country need mass participation and I wouldn't ever protest a Bernie event or think about it but this more about retaliation and fighting fire so I wouldn't be too upset to see one of Bernie's events get shut down by the same means for fairness sake. The media and these other establishment jackals blamed this on Trump, if you say something untrue about a person long enough then there isn't anything stopping them from living up to those standards eventually. Silencing opinions you dislike is not freedom of speech, that is the exact opposite of what it is and to applaud these actions shows the true colors of some of these moralizing ivory towered so called liberals who are in reality are violent authoritarians. I think these protesters should be way less confrontational because it is them that is inciting violence and I don't want to see people hurt. An near octogenarian taking a swing at someone doesn't register with me, what do you expect is going to happen? That question isn't meant to be answered since this is exactly what they want to provoke and why this form of so called 'protest' is wrong.

With most of the Bernie people, I think they will come our way eventually so I don't want to poison the well since Hillary will get the nomination no matter how many what meaning Trump will get a good portion of this populist vote. Trump will win the union rank and file easily I thin, he's hits their key issues and the Republicans already won like 35% of the union vote just on cultural issues alone while being totally anti-union. Hillary's husband signed NAFTA, she supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq, she's been on the wrong side of almost every issue and has massive personal baggage going back 40 years. This election is going to make the coasts of this country that think they decide elections a little less relevant because a bullied downtrodden people are starting to stand up for themselves after being screwed for decades in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, the heartland and former economic engine of this country.



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15 Mar 2016, 2:51 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
these punks were going thru the parking lots in Chicago at the arena smashing car windows

these are the violent people and if they keep their actions up the rest of America won't mind seeing them punched in the nose

Did anyone get arrested for it and say Bernie told them to?Maybe Trump hired people to do it so he could blame Bernie.Seems like something a casino mogul would do.


Bernie encourages it with his violent rhetoric, all he talks about is 'protesting' this or that and calling for his so called revolution which if you take this geriatric pinko at his word to the meaning of that given the time he grew up I would consider it to be a violent threat. You can try to say he prefaces what he says but explaining that he isn't for all that but so does Trump. Bernie is somebody that grew up idolizing the Soviets and this is something everybody should know, that's was the first place he went after he became mayor of Burlington(his first 'real' job at like age 40) which was his honeymoon as well. This guys was a 60s RADICAL in every sense of the world, I bet the FBI has a file on his an inch thick from the 60s. Maybe the FBI should release the files they have on him from way back when because you know they exist.

Make them play by their own rules, that's one Alinsky's rules and it's a great one since even they can't escape it!


Where do you get all this crap, I'd like some evidence that Bernie grew up 'idolizing the soviets' please as well as for every other outlandish claim you've made in this post. Bernie is talking about peaceful protest and revolution through progress nothing about violence. He hasn't made comments implicating physical harm should come to those who oppose him whilst I believe trump with his own mouth said something along the lines of wishing he could punch a protester and does tend to egg things on.

Also you do realize hes a proponent of democratic socialism correct?...which is entirely different from what the soviets had, so you're cold war fear mongering isn't very convincing. He doesn't even expect to entirely switch over to democratic socialism so much as incorporate features of it into our system.

But I digress go ahead and give your support to trump, no one is going to convince you Bernie isn't an evil commie soviet involved in some conspiracy to create a violent soviet esque revolution or that Trump isn't actually infallible.


Nothing I said isn't mirrored about the other side which is what I am going for, I hope you understand this and no I do not think Bernie really promotes violence with his speeches but their are radical groups that support him that he hasn't disavowed and he is someone that preaches this type of activism. See how unfair this feels? I feel there is a lot more merit to these questions about Bernie than I do Trump because his base aren't thugs nor are there any evidence of any thuggery on his behalf, some 78 year old man punching some guy isn't that whereas there are extremist left wing militants in this country that love to cause trouble in this current day rather than some imagine boogeyman from the past. These people were in Ferguson and are a large part of the reason for the prolonged unrest, it wasn't me that made the association with Bernie Sanders with these 'protesters' but rather themselves who were carrying signs and screaming his name. Now was there a reason why they wanted to put his name up front for this? These people aren't all stupid and they understand they are in the business of subversion, Trump's base are mostly white populists and so is Bernie's so why would somebody want to drive a wedge in between the two camps?

I don't take Bernie seriously, he's not the puppet master and as I said there is no way he can win the nomination unless the DNC decides to abandon Hillary which I can only see happening in the event that she gets indicted which is possible but probably unlikely and even then I don't think the DNC would come running into the arms of the Bernie and her delegates would be unbound.



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15 Mar 2016, 2:53 pm

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Seems like BLM and the Berniebots are the violent ones who hate free speech. You don't see Trump supporters doing this, you don't see any Republican supporters doing this, you have one 78 year old man punch an unruly protester and Trump supporters are violent and we have a wide scale organized assault aimed at silencing of the candidate done by BLM, leftist organizations like Moveon.org, it appeared La Raza, and a spattering of misguided supporters o Bernie the red who condemns Trump for the violence and not his own violent followers. The media cheers them on, this is by design they try to create a narrative that Trump encourages violence and then attack him with violence and then blame him for the violence. Very dirty, very underhanded. Maybe some Trump supporters should start crashing some Bernie Sanders rallies, think of all the safe spaces violated and the people 'triggered'.


So basically you're ok with crashing president candidate rallies, so long as it's a candidate you disagree with? I will have to look into the OP more but yeah if a group of left wingers violently crashed a trump rally I certainly don't agree with those actions anymore than I agree with right wingers who think it's ok to punch non-violent protesters at their rallies.

With your logic, I guess because an unreasonable trumpkin punched a protestor I should assume everyone on the right is opposed to free speech and supports violence towards anyone on the left and feel sorry for myself. :roll:

The way I see it though, beating people up for disagreeing is entirely ineffective and puts a damper on trying to find any common ground.


I think the rallies both Bernie and Trump have are great, this country need mass participation and I wouldn't ever protest a Bernie event or think about it but this more about retaliation and fighting fire so I wouldn't be too upset to see one of Bernie's events get shut down by the same means for fairness sake. The media and these other establishment jackals blamed this on Trump, if you say something untrue about a person long enough then there isn't anything stopping them from living up to those standards eventually. Silencing opinions you dislike is not freedom of speech, that is the exact opposite of what it is and to applaud these actions shows the true colors of some of these moralizing ivory towered so called liberals who are in reality are violent authoritarians. I think these protesters should be way less confrontational because it is them that is inciting violence and I don't want to see people hurt. An near octogenarian taking a swing at someone doesn't register with me, what do you expect is going to happen? That question isn't meant to be answered since this is exactly what they want to provoke and why this form of so called 'protest' is wrong.


Alright that is fair....and I don't support silencing disliked opinions, as you're right it's not freedom of speech. But that is why I couldn't agree with a group of leftists who mean to violently attack people at a trump rally to silence them, just as much as I cant agree with Trump encouraging his supporters to use violence towards those who disagree to silence them.

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With most of the Bernie people, I think they will come our way eventually so I don't want to poison the well since Hillary will get the nomination no matter how many what meaning Trump will get a good portion of this populist vote. Trump will win the union rank and file easily I thin, he's hits their key issues and the Republicans already won like 35% of the union vote just on cultural issues alone while being totally anti-union. Hillary's husband signed NAFTA, she supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq, she's been on the wrong side of almost every issue and has massive personal baggage going back 40 years. This election is going to make the coasts of this country that think they decide elections a little less relevant because a bullied downtrodden people are starting to stand up for themselves after being screwed for decades in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, the heartland and former economic engine of this country.


Also if I was to vote for Trump it would be because I'd rather see the collapse sooner than later with Hillary.


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15 Mar 2016, 3:23 pm

Once Trump is finished with Hillary, he will have created coalition that will win in a landslide. She will be like all the rest, she's as stiff and contrived as they come as far as politicians go and everything I want to campaign against in Democratic candidate. She's not a good person and has a lot of skeletons in her closet, it will be easy. I have to think the elites will pull the plug on her candidacy before conceding so the indictment might be their ace in the hole.



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15 Mar 2016, 3:38 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
these punks were going thru the parking lots in Chicago at the arena smashing car windows

these are the violent people and if they keep their actions up the rest of America won't mind seeing them punched in the nose

Did anyone get arrested for it and say Bernie told them to?Maybe Trump hired people to do it so he could blame Bernie.Seems like something a casino mogul would do.


Bernie encourages it with his violent rhetoric, all he talks about is 'protesting' this or that and calling for his so called revolution which if you take this geriatric pinko at his word to the meaning of that given the time he grew up I would consider it to be a violent threat. You can try to say he prefaces what he says but explaining that he isn't for all that but so does Trump. Bernie is somebody that grew up idolizing the Soviets and this is something everybody should know, that's was the first place he went after he became mayor of Burlington(his first 'real' job at like age 40) which was his honeymoon as well. This guys was a 60s RADICAL in every sense of the world, I bet the FBI has a file on his an inch thick from the 60s. Maybe the FBI should release the files they have on him from way back when because you know they exist.

Make them play by their own rules, that's one Alinsky's rules and it's a great one since even they can't escape it!

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