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05 May 2016, 2:40 am

Angie,

A mixed system would incorporate the best elements of socialism and capitalism and attempt to have safeguards that would eliminate abuse.

Countries such as Sweden and Iceland seem to be very well run compared to the US and what's more they have a very high proportion of female legislators!


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05 May 2016, 6:51 am

I wouldn't say that Sweden or Iceland are that well run, there is something of a Nordic socialist myth in this country

we've had a 'mixed' system from the beginning



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05 May 2016, 7:07 am

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What is going to have to happen is the people that have good healthcare now will have to give that up to have mediocre healthcare along with everyone else just so everyone can have healthcare. Less than 50% of the population works and puts into the system. I need to look it up, but my Ma said that Russia is trying to get away from the socialist way because it isn't working. Socialism never works in the end.

We aren't replacing good doctors with mediocre ones, this is only about the costs. Socialized health care is how most of Europe does it, and they can't understand why Americans are so incompetent at it. I say it's all ideological, because our corrupt politicians on both sides are not working for the people, but rather their donors. Limited democratic socialism works better than you think. Profit should not be a factor in public health.



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05 May 2016, 9:40 am

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We aren't replacing good doctors with mediocre ones, this is only about the costs. Socialized health care is how most of Europe does it, and they can't understand why Americans are so incompetent at it. I say it's all ideological, because our corrupt politicians on both sides are not working for the people, but rather their donors. Limited democratic socialism works better than you think. Profit should not be a factor in public health.


Look at the UK .. they actually have "waiting lists" and people spend months to be treated, then to see a specialist, then to further treatments. Americans are too rich to tolerate such third world type of medical care. There would be outrage.

In the UK, as of "June [2015] this year some 3.2million people were parked on waiting lists".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ks-40.html



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05 May 2016, 10:04 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
AspE wrote:
We aren't replacing good doctors with mediocre ones, this is only about the costs. Socialized health care is how most of Europe does it, and they can't understand why Americans are so incompetent at it. I say it's all ideological, because our corrupt politicians on both sides are not working for the people, but rather their donors. Limited democratic socialism works better than you think. Profit should not be a factor in public health.


Look at the UK .. they actually have "waiting lists" and people spend months to be seen, then to see a specialist, then to receive treatments. Americans are too rich to tolerate such third world type of medical care. There would be outrage.

In the UK, as of "June [2015] this year some 3.2million people were parked on waiting lists".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ks-40.html


How can this be considered good and acceptable health care?! You'll be dead before you see a freaking doctor.


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05 May 2016, 10:06 am

AspE wrote:
nurseangela wrote:

What is going to have to happen is the people that have good healthcare now will have to give that up to have mediocre healthcare along with everyone else just so everyone can have healthcare. Less than 50% of the population works and puts into the system. I need to look it up, but my Ma said that Russia is trying to get away from the socialist way because it isn't working. Socialism never works in the end.

We aren't replacing good doctors with mediocre ones, this is only about the costs. Socialized health care is how most of Europe does it, and they can't understand why Americans are so incompetent at it. I say it's all ideological, because our corrupt politicians on both sides are not working for the people, but rather their donors. Limited democratic socialism works better than you think. Profit should not be a factor in public health.


The US is now replacing doctors with nurse practitioners. I started a thread on the subject. Would you go to a nurse practitioner?


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05 May 2016, 12:07 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /83935556/

Enjoy...



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11 May 2016, 5:42 pm

I've been away doing a few things, but now that I'm back jack here's some news from Drudge:

Exclusive: Trump surges in support, almost even with Clinton in national U.S. poll. http://tiny.iavian.net/a8up

I'm going to have to get my cable reinstalled - this election will be the best reality TV ever!

GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! :mrgreen:


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11 May 2016, 5:44 pm

And this :

Bernie Sanders: Nominating Hillary Clinton would be ‘disaster’ for party, nation. http://tiny.iavian.net/a8ud

Doesn't look like Bernie's backing down any!


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11 May 2016, 5:47 pm

And why AMERICA NEEDS TRUMP!

Middle class takes financial hit in most US cities this century - FT.com. http://tiny.iavian.net/a8y4

Mr. Aw is doing such a fantastic job of what he intended all along - getting rid of the middle class. :roll:


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11 May 2016, 6:17 pm

Now talks of Secession from Texas. Cruz must still be pissed. :mrgreen:

Texas Republicans Inch Closer to Secession. http://tiny.iavian.net/a8z0

I think they have the right idea. I'm actually hoping for Kansas to do the same thing and have Trump let each State make their own laws. Dare I dream?


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11 May 2016, 6:18 pm

And that's the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH....... for now. :mrgreen:


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11 May 2016, 6:33 pm

nurseangela wrote:
And that's the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH....... for now. :mrgreen:

We liked it better when you were busy...



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11 May 2016, 6:46 pm

I forgot one :

Here's Beck finally talking some sense about Trump:

http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/05/11/gle ... %20Control

And I also forgot to leave you with these words:

GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! GO TRUMP! :mrgreen:


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12 May 2016, 12:13 am

States rights weren't good for black people in the old days.



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12 May 2016, 2:55 am

Just in from Newsmax:

One of Trump's first ads blasting Hillary on Benghazi.

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/728154

This Is Just The Beginning.......


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